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Quote from: Bjorn_Blockchain on May 30, 2017, 03:47:44 PM

So you're saying that BB is using your work without paying you for it?

I sell license for it for 2 bitcoin, but for people who don't want to (or can't) pay I offer the code completely free as (I like to hope) the code is useful for other people to see how a bitcoin casino is built and learn from it. The condition though for those people, is the AGPLv3 license which basically says that you must prominently link to the code/license and any changes must also be under the same license as well as pretty much everything that touches it (so generally the front-end/backend) along with instructions for anyone who wants to install/build their own. People are totally free to use it for commercial purpose, but any interfacing code must also be made available under the AGPLv3 too. (The AGPLv3 is basically the GPL license, but it closes some loopholes around not need to comply with the license if you're offering it as as service (e.g. Remote Network Interaction))

I know there's a few people who have expressed interests in building bustabit for ETH, so I think the adaptations made for ETC and stuff would be pretty appreciated. (And likewise those people would have to share any changes they make, so hopefully it's a bit of a win win for everyone)

Ah, I see. So BB, who have made nearly 500BTC in profit, decided to use the free code instead of paying you 2BTC to license it. Interesting.

Sadly it was purchased, I guess not that interesting or drama worthy anymore.

Well that's good. It was pretty clear that Ryan was under the impression that it wasn't purchased so I'm glad everything got resolved.

I'm glad you're glad :-)

I'm someone who has 25+ years of open-source collaborative history ... I tend to stick to license terms ...

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So you're saying that BB is using your work without paying you for it?

I sell license for it for 2 bitcoin, but for people who don't want to (or can't) pay I offer the code completely free as (I like to hope) the code is useful for other people to see how a bitcoin casino is built and learn from it. The condition though for those people, is the AGPLv3 license which basically says that you must prominently link to the code/license and any changes must also be under the same license as well as pretty much everything that touches it (so generally the front-end/backend) along with instructions for anyone who wants to install/build their own. People are totally free to use it for commercial purpose, but any interfacing code must also be made available under the AGPLv3 too. (The AGPLv3 is basically the GPL license, but it closes some loopholes around not need to comply with the license if you're offering it as as service (e.g. Remote Network Interaction))

I know there's a few people who have expressed interests in building bustabit for ETH, so I think the adaptations made for ETC and stuff would be pretty appreciated. (And likewise those people would have to share any changes they make, so hopefully it's a bit of a win win for everyone)

Ah, I see. So BB, who have made nearly 500BTC in profit, decided to use the free code instead of paying you 2BTC to license it. Interesting.

Sadly it was purchased, I guess not that interesting or drama worthy anymore.

Well that's good. It was pretty clear that Ryan was under the impression that it wasn't purchased so I'm glad everything got resolved.

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So you're saying that BB is using your work without paying you for it?

I sell license for it for 2 bitcoin, but for people who don't want to (or can't) pay I offer the code completely free as (I like to hope) the code is useful for other people to see how a bitcoin casino is built and learn from it. The condition though for those people, is the AGPLv3 license which basically says that you must prominently link to the code/license and any changes must also be under the same license as well as pretty much everything that touches it (so generally the front-end/backend) along with instructions for anyone who wants to install/build their own. People are totally free to use it for commercial purpose, but any interfacing code must also be made available under the AGPLv3 too. (The AGPLv3 is basically the GPL license, but it closes some loopholes around not need to comply with the license if you're offering it as as service (e.g. Remote Network Interaction))

I know there's a few people who have expressed interests in building bustabit for ETH, so I think the adaptations made for ETC and stuff would be pretty appreciated. (And likewise those people would have to share any changes they make, so hopefully it's a bit of a win win for everyone)

Ah, I see. So BB, who have made nearly 500BTC in profit, decided to use the free code instead of paying you 2BTC to license it. Interesting.

Sadly it was purchased, I guess not that interesting or drama worthy anymore.

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Quote from: JanusDev on May 30, 2017, 02:36:04 PM

This is Lobos, the BetterBets/EtcBets/Janus dev.

This is not true. We did purchase a license.

Ah cool. Well in that case, everything is totally fine! The license does give you permission to use it for absolutely anything you want Grin

I guess you must've purchased it using an alias or something? As I do not recall the event. If you could PM me the email address you used, I am happy to confirm that the license was bought and add your domain to bustabit.com/license.txt if you want =)

PM sent.

BTW, we rewrote the server side code in PHP based on the framework we use ... so it's not a NodeJS system anymore :-)

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So you're saying that BB is using your work without paying you for it?

I sell license for it for 2 bitcoin, but for people who don't want to (or can't) pay I offer the code completely free as (I like to hope) the code is useful for other people to see how a bitcoin casino is built and learn from it. The condition though for those people, is the AGPLv3 license which basically says that you must prominently link to the code/license and any changes must also be under the same license as well as pretty much everything that touches it (so generally the front-end/backend) along with instructions for anyone who wants to install/build their own. People are totally free to use it for commercial purpose, but any interfacing code must also be made available under the AGPLv3 too. (The AGPLv3 is basically the GPL license, but it closes some loopholes around not need to comply with the license if you're offering it as as service (e.g. Remote Network Interaction))

I know there's a few people who have expressed interests in building bustabit for ETH, so I think the adaptations made for ETC and stuff would be pretty appreciated. (And likewise those people would have to share any changes they make, so hopefully it's a bit of a win win for everyone)

Ah, I see. So BB, who have made nearly 500BTC in profit, decided to use the free code instead of paying you 2BTC to license it. Interesting.

This is Lobos, the BetterBets/EtcBets/Janus dev.

This is not true. We did purchase a license. Ryans words were:

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Hey there, if you send 2 BTC to 1P4dzNXwLDhJ1E7He86uwFoewLu8PG3rSS and send me your email address, and i'll email you a source dump of bustabit (webserver, gameserver, depositor). Start with the "webserver" project, and check out the readme there. The database schema in the webserver is used through out for all the projects. If any have any specific technical questions, I'm happy to answer (just try solve them first yourself). Also make sure you're running the latest version of node and postgres

Our payment was made through this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/8daaba02b27368fc820c17088c05dcc97dfdd5f95c38cb386371e0868ddb909b

The code Ryan refers to was part of the source dump ...

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So you're saying that BB is using your work without paying you for it?

I sell license for it for 2 bitcoin, but for people who don't want to (or can't) pay I offer the code completely free as (I like to hope) the code is useful for other people to see how a bitcoin casino is built and learn from it. The condition though for those people, is the AGPLv3 license which basically says that you must prominently link to the code/license and any changes must also be under the same license as well as pretty much everything that touches it (so generally the front-end/backend) along with instructions for anyone who wants to install/build their own. People are totally free to use it for commercial purpose, but any interfacing code must also be made available under the AGPLv3 too. (The AGPLv3 is basically the GPL license, but it closes some loopholes around not need to comply with the license if you're offering it as as service (e.g. Remote Network Interaction))

I know there's a few people who have expressed interests in building bustabit for ETH, so I think the adaptations made for ETC and stuff would be pretty appreciated. (And likewise those people would have to share any changes they make, so hopefully it's a bit of a win win for everyone)

Ah, I see. So BB, who have made nearly 500BTC in profit, decided to use the free code instead of paying you 2BTC to license it. Interesting.

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Hey someone sent me a link to your recently launched parabolic game. Congratulations on the release!

The notice that the top of the src files have this:

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/**
* Created by led on 9.4.2017..
*/

although they are a 100% copy and paste of bustabit (e.g. there's even a few lines you haven't changed that still reference bustabit, like constants.js:113

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HOST: (window.document.location.host === 'www.bustabit.com' || window.DEV_OTT) ? 'https://gs.bustabit.com:443' : window.document.location.host.replace(/:3841$/, ':3842'),

Anyway, I understand you're using the code from the copy that was AGPLv3 license on github (as opposed to buying the commercial license for 2 btc)? If so, I'm kind of interested in checking out in the server side stuff you've done, but I haven't been able to find any link to full code (and install instructions) as the license would require. (And if you haven't done this yet, no rush. I understand it takes a bit of time to do so, to make sure you're not accidentally including any secrets or anything like that).

Anyway, nice work. Thanks for bringing bustabit to a new audience!

So you're saying that BB is using your work without paying you for it?

He's saying per the licence we need to post the source. That's fine Ryan we will pm you when it's public, thanks for the congrats and reminder though 😎

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