betting online cockfight has become the new pandemic - page 2.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on November 23, 2021, 03:35:58 PM

Losing a fortune in the cockfighting isn't new in the Philippines as far as I knew it and even if it hasn't gone online we already heard some news regarding that. I don't know if this could be more deep to lead on abolishing the entire cockfighting industry but as far as I'm concern there's not much to go on that direction, this industry likely to be right here for awhile even in decades to come.

Cant really be stopped if you do ask me because such industry wont really be enough for it to be stopped and even this pandemic hits then people or gamblers would really be finding ways on how they would able to
do that thing despite of prohibition but as i have heard up on which this activity had been presumed out to continue on this moment.

I have already heard up about online cockfight which i dont see anything wrong with it yet gambling industry isnt something that could be topped as long it would be legal
then it wouldnt matter.

Now that we are slowly going to normal days once again then i wont be surprised that they would go physical it again.

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Losing a fortune in the cockfighting isn't new in the Philippines as far as I knew it and even if it hasn't gone online we already heard some news regarding that. I don't know if this could be more deep to lead on abolishing the entire cockfighting industry but as far as I'm concern there's not much to go on that direction, this industry likely to be right here for awhile even in decades to come.

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Quote from: electronicash on November 22, 2021, 11:57:01 AM

not sure if he will suceed with his campaign. its governed by the big boys in the country namely Atong Ang. it could just be Cayetanos election gimmick since he is running for a position again but he has a good intention.

that's what I thought too, politicians tend to create a noise to stir attention towards them every time there is an election.

Quote from: madnessteat on November 22, 2021, 02:08:10 PM

I understand that cockfighting in the Philippines is an integral part of history, but in my opinion this kind of gambling should be banned in the first place because of the cruelty to animals. I read in an article that these roosters are not only tortured to make them angrier but also drugged. In my opinion this is overkill.

it's basically the same as dogfighting. I am not a huge fan of it and there's even news where a police officer dies during an illegal gambling raid after being attacked by a rooster that still has tari(blade) connected to its foot. the rooster attacked the officer on the leg which unfortunately hit an artery resulting for the officer to die while being brought to the hospital due to blood loss.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on November 22, 2021, 12:38:38 PM

I do think it is imperative to address the issue of online gambling. Given the fact that the government had acknowledged that it affected the community due to its highly-addictive 50/50 chance of winning, it is inevitable for law makers to notice such problem.

Anything that helps address the issue of gambling is definitely welcomed. Rather than the lawmakers being silent on this issue, any initiative combating such addiction may at least help our fellow citizens on being aware on it. One suggestion that I could think of is to increase the tax on these establishments and regulate them further so people would somehow think before they engage into such.

While it is important to address this form of gambling as it is obvious it is causing problems, the issue with the animal cruelty needs to be addressed as well, it seems it is a cultural thing on the country of the OP but it needs to be made illegal, after all there is a big difference between two people fighting each other as it is the case in boxing as both of those people decided to be there and fight, while in the case of animal fights the poor animals did not get to choose if they wanted to fight or not.

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Quote from: electronicash on November 22, 2021, 09:54:36 PM

Quote from: Dave1 on November 22, 2021, 08:44:33 PM

I think there is a bigger personality behind Atong Ang. I see him as just a pawn in this gambling network in the Philippines. Remember that his name has been crapping up even during the Estrada administration and up to know he is still on the (illegal) gambling business. So for me, there is a someone that is strong backing up Atong Ang so it is hard to stop this new pandemic in the pandemic in the Philippines even though Cayetano is trying to fight it out.

true. some of these bigger personalities ruled a huge region in the country and even the country itself like Joseph Estrada. Chavit Singson and Manny Pacquaio is known for sabong too. Cayetano is really not prepared for this bigger fight since he isn't backed and the would-be president Marcos is a good friend of Singson's.

the article is also saying the adoption of online wallets, does anyone think crypto will be adopted soon?

It's probably talking about Gcash and other online wallets because as far as I know you can deposit and withdraw thru Gcash now.

But yeah, I do agree, AA is just a pawn to this billion dollar online sabong that is taking the Philippines by storm and everyone is getting addicted and it needs to be stop. But I'm not sure if Cayetano can do it by himself alone.

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We had a discussion here about the illegal cockfight of Philippines when a police officer died in last year. Death during illegal cockfighting raid. And I have found another news where a ‘teen with special needs’ was killed by the Filipino police (Cop who shot dead teen with special needs sacked)
Both of these cases are connected with cockfight and cockfighting is illegal based on those cases. I'm wondering why the government aren't taking some serious action against this illegal cockfights! The are allowing it just for some money!

Quote from: electronicash on November 22, 2021, 11:57:01 AM

anyone who isnt from philippines, may really find this animal cruelty which may only exist underground but this cockfighting is already part of the culture. ~
government is also earning from these betting firms which is why its becoming a usual to approve bills.
should the government risk the teens today knowing that cockfighting arenas can routinely operate everyday online?

Many countries have festivals where they hurts animal and government has nothing to do when it's a culture of the nation's. But the government shouldn't allow betting on this type of cultural occasion for their own benefits, no matter if it is online or offline.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on November 22, 2021, 01:28:21 PM

Quote from: electronicash on November 22, 2021, 11:57:01 AM

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I want to know if cockfighting is legal in the philippines? if not then the philippine government should close all gambling sites that provide cockfighting and fine the owner because it is very detrimental

It is always illegal, it will only become legal when you provide the required documents to register your cockpit and of course you need to have tons of cash in handy to hand it over to the corrupt officials for you to prevent from any raids once you operate without the authority for that specific event.

The biggest cock fighting tournament today can be accessible online, but at the moment they still don't offer crypto as the betting option.

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I know many people might be concerned about the addiction but I am more concerned about the violent sports that might cause a lot of probelms for the people. It's extremely sad that cocks are forced to fight each other till the other one dies, injected with hormones to make them agressive causing massive damage to their body. It's not an ethical sports. There are places where this is banned. Just like how you would probably not see the bull getting stabbed in the head , cockfighting is sad. People need to understand that they can do other things like *hamster powered marbles or something* it's not hard finding something else. The whole idea is gamble but don't harm anyone else in that process, that might just be animal cruelty and not actually gambling. I hope they do see what's going on with this sports and decide to ban it for good.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on November 23, 2021, 09:36:28 AM

Quote from: Cling18 on November 23, 2021, 09:26:27 AM

People might see it as an act of animal cruelty but it's already part of the Filipino culture and even our ancestors used to do cockfighting. However, lots of people got addicted to online cockfighting this pandemic because of the influence of social media influencers, and to be honest, it ruined lots of lives but as for me, it isn't the game that should only be blamed but also the greediness of some players who see gambling as a shortcut to success. They see it as a survival tool during this pandemic without knowing that it could even make their situation worse.

Yes, I have a lot of friends and relatives who are making a lot of money from it, and I could honestly say that I really want to get into it but don't know how, but at the same time, I would say that I am not into it, and that I believe I am just thinking about it because they have influenced my thinking about it. Despite the fact that they earn a living and can afford many things as a result of it, they are also losing money because not everyone is winning at this time. You are correct because this is a part of the Filipino culture, and it is legalized in our country as well.

Maybe they are agents which earn profits from referrals to their recruited bettor that's why your relatives earning a lot of money from this game, I also heard about this but never got an interest to join on any forms of its since its hard to accept money when your recruited people lose their own and what worst is maybe it can cause a lot which can harm them in the long run. This is the reason why I didn't refer any gambling site especially promoting my links since I don't want other to suffer the bad consequences of gambling.

Clarification I don't want to post any gambling stuff on social media since I don't want my relatives to get addicted on gambling.

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Quote from: Cling18 on November 23, 2021, 09:26:27 AM

People might see it as an act of animal cruelty but it's already part of the Filipino culture and even our ancestors used to do cockfighting. However, lots of people got addicted to online cockfighting this pandemic because of the influence of social media influencers, and to be honest, it ruined lots of lives but as for me, it isn't the game that should only be blamed but also the greediness of some players who see gambling as a shortcut to success. They see it as a survival tool during this pandemic without knowing that it could even make their situation worse.

Yes, I have a lot of friends and relatives who are making a lot of money from it, and I could honestly say that I really want to get into it but don't know how, but at the same time, I would say that I am not into it, and that I believe I am just thinking about it because they have influenced my thinking about it. Despite the fact that they earn a living and can afford many things as a result of it, they are also losing money because not everyone is winning at this time. You are correct because this is a part of the Filipino culture, and it is legalized in our country as well.

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People might see it as an act of animal cruelty but it's already part of the Filipino culture and even our ancestors used to do cockfighting. However, lots of people got addicted to online cockfighting this pandemic because of the influence of social media influencers, and to be honest, it ruined lots of lives but as for me, it isn't the game that should only be blamed but also the greediness of some players who see gambling as a shortcut to success. They see it as a survival tool during this pandemic without knowing that it could even make their situation worse.

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I know that there are illegal dog fighting games in my country and the people are betting money on this s*it.
Dog fighting is an even worse form of cruelty against animals compared to cockfighting.This is disgusting.
I agree that cockfighting is a part of your culture,but gambling is just gambling.People will always find something to gamble and place bets on.I'm against such perverse forms of gambling,but I can't do anything.
The sad truth is that it is extremely difficult for the authorities to find and stop such illegal gambling activities.
I've heard that most of the online animal fighting gambling games are being streamed on the darkweb.
This is just awful...

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Quote from: Tumanggor on November 22, 2021, 01:28:21 PM

Quote from: electronicash on November 22, 2021, 11:57:01 AM

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online cockfighting gambling, I've never tried it but it certainly looks very popular in your country

I want to know if cockfighting is legal in the philippines? if not then the philippine government should close all gambling sites that provide cockfighting and fine the owner because it is very detrimental

So far, I personally only see people gambling cockfighting offline, and even then it is usually done in the middle of the forest, they choose the forest to gamble for avoid raids by the police, in Southeast Asia I think only the Philippines is the only one asian countries that legalize cockfighting betting both offline and online, besides that they only apply a prohibition not to gamble only on December 30 and the prohibition is regulated by law number 299.

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So this is a Publicity stunt of this lawmaker. You can't blame him since most of the politicians are doing the same thing when an election is coming. None of them pays attention to it even when their neighboring kid got addicted and ruined thier lives by pawning their house to pay the debt due to online gambling. But in times of election is where they get to find ways.

The government is part of the business like it happens in every country in the world, it's them, the politicians who facilitate all these since they have the money and can lobby votes. And then the government agrees after all the government monetizes this thru the tax.

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Quote from: electronicash on November 22, 2021, 11:57:01 AM

a law maker Cayetano in our country Philippines calls for the rejection of legeslative bills for the successive passing of franchise bills for online cockfight betting firms. reason is, many lives had already been ruined because of the online "sabong" in the country. there was a news about a local celebrity who loses his fortune because of online betting. the article mentions the lad who was arrested for failing to pay debt of more than $10k.

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Online cockfighting and gambling have been described by former Speaker Alan Peter Cayetano as the “new pandemic” that requires immediate government action in order to save Filipino families from social, moral and economic degradation.

https://mb.com.ph/2021/11/22/cayetano-online-sabong-gambling-are-the-new-pandemic/

not sure if he will suceed with his campaign. its governed by the big boys in the country namely Atong Ang. it could just be Cayetanos election gimmick since he is running for a position again but he has a good intention.

anyone who isnt from philippines, may really find this animal cruelty which may only exist underground but this cockfighting is already part of the culture. even when i was a kid i already been exposed to mini cockfighting arena every festival where people bet for the lives of the roosters.

government is also earning from these betting firms which is why its becoming a usual to approve bills.
should the government risk the teens today knowing that cockfighting arenas can routinely operate everyday online?

Obviously that Man is only seeking for attention because of the Near coming Political election in the philippines and also obviously he wanted to gain popularity because he is a Loser in the former election.

Now that Online Cockfighting is gaining really a great return , He wanted to be heard with this.

and also the term should changed as "Former Lawmaker" and not a lawmaker.

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If people do not have a routine activity and only play gambling every day, that can cause us to become addicted to gambling and once we are addicted, we will feel difficult to stop it.
No matter what the name of the gambling games is, that can become a new pandemic, especially in the young people who have a big passion for knowing something for more details to drag them to become addicted to gambling.
It needs more attention because we have already seen many sad stories from young people addicted to gambling.
And cockfight is one traditional gambling game that is popular in some countries to attract young people to try playing the game.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on November 22, 2021, 01:28:21 PM

Quote from: electronicash on November 22, 2021, 11:57:01 AM

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online cockfighting gambling, I've never tried it but it certainly looks very popular in your country

I want to know if cockfighting is legal in the philippines? if not then the philippine government should close all gambling sites that provide cockfighting and fine the owner because it is very detrimental

The industry is huge and they cannot just make it illegal because of the money they can possibly get from it. Most of the bettors are the big names in the country especially politicians and their millionaire friends But there was no online cockfight till now. I don't know because most of the gambling right now is online and looks like they make some huge money from it that's why they wanted to put the cockfighting online as well.

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I still think it's dumb that instead of properly managing to gamble, they instead push not allowing it or removing it. It's pretty dumb, it's like yea, blame the game for letting someone lose all his money. See, it might even pass when being asked by the police kind of thing? Let's say someone killed a person, and he said it was because he saw it in a game and wanted to try it. Are the people so dumb that they'd tell the devs of that specific game to take responsibility and be the one undercharge instead? No right? It's the same thing here IMO. No comment on the cockfighting itself as gambling though, I might be biased since I've kind of viewed it as a norm ever since I was a kid, kinda just grew up knowing it.

Honestly, I just think it's part of his campaign since the election is pretty near, propaganda on his part, nothing more nothing else.

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Quote from: Dave1 on November 22, 2021, 08:44:33 PM

I think there is a bigger personality behind Atong Ang. I see him as just a pawn in this gambling network in the Philippines. Remember that his name has been crapping up even during the Estrada administration and up to know he is still on the (illegal) gambling business. So for me, there is a someone that is strong backing up Atong Ang so it is hard to stop this new pandemic in the pandemic in the Philippines even though Cayetano is trying to fight it out.

true. some of these bigger personalities ruled a huge region in the country and even the country itself like Joseph Estrada. Chavit Singson and Manny Pacquaio is known for sabong too. Cayetano is really not prepared for this bigger fight since he isn't backed and the would-be president Marcos is a good friend of Singson's.

the article is also saying the adoption of online wallets, does anyone think crypto will be adopted soon?

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This is the biggest problem with online betting, not just cockfighting. Anything online can be accessible by anybody minor or not. Of course there are terms and conditions which include provisions that do not allow minors, but is there really a guaranteed way to screen the age of online bettors? There's none. Online betting could also be done anytime, whether you are in your car, at work, at school, at home, etc. Online betting should be closely monitored and strictly regulated.

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