Topic: Between futures trading and gambling (Read 1874 times)

If you want to to prominent in both the trading and the gambling.You should keep your mind with huge peace,then you can manage the both field at a time.The gambling can be used as the entertainment while you do trading as the full time one.Because the trading need of full time analysis,if you are doing the day trading.It's most essential one by the trader to engage with the more fun.The day trading will be more stress as compared to the normal trading.If you are not getting profit from the trading can be manged by gambling win.

I don’t have to chose because if you can be a profitable gambler and trader at the same time, then I would love to keep them both. You know it’s not that hard to profit from gambling as long as the chances to win is high, but in trading, everything should be done with knowledge and skills, and of course with caution. So if you think you’re capable enough to win on your trades, then do not stop from trading. Same with gambling, if you’re making relevant profits out from luck and some strategies applied, then continue to gamble but also gamble at your own risk.

But don't forget that in gambling, there is also sports betting, where gamblers have to do more analysis and search for information to find a team that has a chance to win. So for gamblers, it's the same as having good skills to find a team with the chance to win. Indeed, many gamblers choose gambling games based on luck, so they will think that gambling is not the same as trading, and that is true.

Trading and gambling are something different, so we cannot compare them. Even though gambling also requires skill to be able to win, there is a luck factor that every gambler must also have so that they can only win. But in trading, analysis is needed. The only difference is how much profit or loss they will get. But in trading, even if they suffer losses, they can recover their losses through other trades and get more profits.

If you are a fan of taking a big risk, then yeah you can simply go to casino and just throw your money and hope for luck to back you up, but in terms of being wise and practical, you can also do the same, before entering the casino you can research and study whatever type of gambling you wanted to participate and find some factors that may give hint or give some edge to win.

That's a same deal with future trade where you will look for factors that may affect the market and possible to give you edge in making some profits.

Both are difficult to earn money. Both gambling and future trading rely on the luck to succeed. So, I prefer spot trading if my main goal is for earning money. It will be different if I want to get entertainment or take challenges while earning money. In this matter, I can choose gambling or future trading. TBH, it is always hard to earn money if we mostly only rely on the luck.

Both gambling and future trading are risky, even spot trading is also risky. None can guarantee for profits (earning money). It depends on our luck, knowledge, and experience. But I think gambling is easier if it is about how to play it, it even doesn't need specific learning. While trading is more complicated, we need to understand market nature and proper strategies to use. We also need to analyze the coins that we want to trade on the market.

Trading and gambling is very uh different since a trader would have to do some market analysis before entering into the market just like gamblers do not mean that the two are  the same. For you to gamble you don't a skill to do that. You can always enter the market without going through any strategy and book games and win which may be due to luck but in trading, it is very different. We need to study the market enough before going into the market and most time even with all the analysis, we can still end up losing big in the market.

Many people would say both trading and gambling are similar but j would like to disagree to that, gambling is a wide sector and under gambling we have casinos, dice, cards and so on which has something to do with luck and also experience and there is still the sport betting where you read the game and predict what the out come would be this is also about experience and luck to but you can depend on luck while trading, it's very complicated than that although the full similarity between the two is there is an existence of Big risk and also big rewards

I have been involved in futures trading because I was tempted by high profits, even though we have analyzed the market but we will never know the exact price movements so anticipate using low margins to avoid high loss risks, in my opinion gambling and futures trading are not much different when it comes to risk and difficult to control emotions when involved both. Even professionals can also be at risk of experiencing high losses on futures as the market conditions recently had dropped -8% a day causing to liquidate 150k users, the conditions are exactly the same when you gamble placing high bets but the results are not what you expected.

Regardless of what the project is all about, if traders are already locked in on a futures market, they wouldn't really changed it and play with their odds to get the maximum profit. Futures trading is very simple though also requires a bit of luck for the market to favor on your locked price. In gambling, everything and anything goes; you play with your odds, and most of the time, the odds play against you. Both are the same in terms of betting on something but different when it comes to approach. In futures trading, there is already an established pattern that traders adhere to, whereas in gambling there isn't any.

I do not understand what project you mean. The OP is talking about futures trading and gambling. although futures trading requires skills and market analysis. but still, more beginners just make predictions and even randomly place positions without doing an analysis. it's just like gambling.
so for beginners who do not have trading skills. Futures trading does look like gambling. but different for those who are professionals. this is what distinguishes luck in futures trading and also gambling.

Maybe the reason why the OP wanted to compare between the two, futures and gambling, is that futures is like a gamble.
As you don't know about the future performance of the project, you are left to speculate on this and take a dive with futures.
However, the more knowledge and insights you have with the project, the better your chance with futures.
Unlike in gambling, particularly with luck-based games, no matter what research or strategy you will apply on your games, if it is not your luck, you can't get your winnings.
And do remember, it depends on the person himself, how he is patient in learning with the project. Because it would take time before you can truly understand what's going on with the project.

It may vary from person to person,because the trader can act as an gambler.But the gambler can't easily become the trader,because the trader need of more knowledge.But the gambler can play his lifetime with the luck itself.The game choosing is the important one gambling before become a gambler.The more research is the important one in the trading as compared to the gambling site.Because the gambler only need to find the website is real or fake.But the trader should find the trading exchange is real or fake and then he need to spend some time to check all the project is real or fake.So the traders had two work.

Stick with gambling.  I say this as a financial advisor who's got some familiarity with futures contracts, also having lived a stones throw away form the the CBOE in Chicago for a few year and having gotten to know some of the options/future traders I learned a bit (outside of the learning I did while studying for the Series 7 , Series 65 and other financial exams). 

Futures/forwards/options contracts is serious business and you've really got to know what you're doing...it's too much work for me to be interested in personally  At least as of now. I could see myself shifting to that sector work wise eventually.  But for now, simply sports gambling and casino games it is for me.  I take enough risk market wise in stocks/ETFs etc.

You are right, what happens is that some people who have a lot of money see the casino and trading as the same, they see it as a matter of luck, in the case of casinos without considering sports betting, this is due and given only to the luck and randomness, then it is a matter of luck and every casino when you enter a game goes only to luck and to the games that obey only the house advantage and what the players can do.

In sports betting it is not all a call to pure luck, that is also a call to do things when you have knowledge, and knowledge in sports betting is relevant because it is more likely that a good analysis will make you win in a game. sports betting, many know it and it is so, for me sports betting and futures trading is a matter of knowing, and it is not a matter of leaving everything to chance, this is something that many do not understand, some casino players , they get into an exchange and begin to trade as if it were all user, they may win, but when their luck runs out they can lose everything and that is something that should not be, that is why both sports betting and trading futures you must do good analysis, because here with knowledge you can win.

The casinos within their games, be they slot machines, be they roulettes, any game is difficult to strategize, but knowledge does not help a lot, but it does not guarantee that you will win, because things here in the casinos do not work according to what is most important to me. You know, not to luck, on the other hand, the casinos that have the option of sports betting and bets are made with sports if you know enough, then you win and a lot, personally, both sports betting and futures trading should be done with much Moderation, the more you know and have a good knowledge, the closer you are to winning, but it is something that must be studied, every day to seek and learn more, it is not denied that sometimes luck plays a fundamental role, but little.

Gambling and trading are way too distinct pursuits but some people just don't get it. I understand that futures trading can be risky as well, but it isn't solely based on guessing the outcome without knowing anything at all. People spend tons of time reading charts, analyzing the market, reading the historical data, facts, and figures, and then deciding to take a certain trade, and some people go ahead and compare that with gambling where there is no decision-making such as that.

There is nothing wrong with gambling as long as someone isn't getting addicted to it or using it as a way to earn a living. You can always do some gambling if you have some free time and got some extra money that you can use on gambling without having any regrets even if you lose it all.

yep, you are right if you look at how to get money and how to share wins or profits from both, most say there are no similarities or some say its almost the same. but what I mean is that a gambler usually shares only his winnings and it is always in large numbers as if other people think that it is very easy to get money from gambling without looking at the risks and losses before getting a win so ordinary people will think that gambling is easier to do to earn money.

and for futures trading a trader shares his profits not always with large amounts because it is very rare for small capital to get big profits unless there is a bullish trend so that all the coins traded go up in price. so its very rare for traders to share their profits as long as he only uses a small budget for futures trading and people who are new to trading certainly see that it will be difficult to do because its a little complicated unlike gambling which only needs to bet where you like and on the one hand also get pleasure .

The motivation that will push you to continue is the belief that you can create a good strategy that will bring you the pattern to have better numbers of winning bets/position, though it's hard to ensure that you may have that kind of outcome from each time you place your pick but it's doable in terms of having more wins compared to the numbers of your losing picks/bets.

Both future trades and gambling can't guarantee any accurate outcome. You may win some and lose after, but with good control, the chance might be better.

Trading strategy work most of the time whereas except sports betting or poker strategies donot work with luck gambling. I haven't seen anyone being able to get through with strategies as often as gambling. Whereas with trading as in day trading is not that easy for anyone. Day trading does provide a constant flow of daily income but you would need to be a pro in order to become a day trader.

Can you support this statement for real? Even knowledgeable and professional traders are losing much today.

No one can withstand the volatile market and there's no such thing as a high percentage of winning in trading. Instead, I find it more appropriate to say that trading isn't only relying on luck to increase the chance of winning. However, the market is obviously not predictable therefore, proven strategies are only applicable to a given trend.


That's why it is called prediction. The same as how you predict the market movement in trading.

There are factors to consider at both and it doesn't mean that even if you analyzed it properly, your bet should always win.

Are you sure that there is a strategy that can bring money in trading or gambling on a permanent basis? I don't think there is such a strategy. Gambling and trading are high-risk activities in which the result depends not only on knowledge, skills and experience, but also on luck. Therefore, even if your strategy works today, tomorrow it can bring you such losses that you have never even thought about.