I wish you luck with this, but there is no way you're getting anywhere close to $200K without getting shut down by paypal.
Anyone want to place bets on how long that paypal account survives?
This might make for an interesting Sixth Amendment case.
Topic: Beware of LocalBitcoins.com - page 2. (Read 14921 times)
I was arrested for trading Bitcoins, on Localbitcoins.com, in Colorado.
So far defending myself has cost our family almost $200,000
We can use all the help we can get, please see the fundraising web site put up by my wife Jean:
http://www.burtw.com
It's a bit unbelievable that you spent $200k on legal defense. Perhaps you mean you've lost $200k in assets due to government seizures? So far defending myself has cost our family almost $200,000
We can use all the help we can get, please see the fundraising web site put up by my wife Jean:
http://www.burtw.com
I think the best lawyer would 'only' cost $10-20k.
Anyways, best of luck, it's a truly frightening situation.
I was arrested for trading Bitcoins, on Localbitcoins.com, in Colorado.
So far defending myself has cost our family almost $200,000
We can use all the help we can get, please see the fundraising web site put up by my wife Jean:
http://www.burtw.com
It's insane that you got arrested for this. Puts fear into my heart. I've been wanting to get into selling btc for some profit on the side, but it's scary that you could be set up so easily. An undercover could easily mention in the middle of you sending the bitcoins that he uses darknet markets and possibly charge you before you even get a chance to turn him away. They can be so sly and shady, I really hate the regulation and police who have nothing better to do than set up "stings" on localbitcoins.So far defending myself has cost our family almost $200,000
We can use all the help we can get, please see the fundraising web site put up by my wife Jean:
http://www.burtw.com
I would absolutely donate to you if I had some funds to spare. I hope everything works out for you. Your case could decide the future of bitcoin selling and these "stings" being legal or not. If I, by some miracle come accross a large sum of money (win the lottery etc) I will donate to you without a doubt.
While I have heard good things about localbitcoins.
I believe the safest way to buy and sell BTC is on an exchange platform.
Although localbitcoins is well established, cash and face to face transactions must be done with great caution and coordinated properly.
There are a myriad of potential dangers that one must deal with when exchanging funds in public location, example armed robberies and in some cases con-artists supposedly "forgetting" their laptops and borrowing yours with which they may plant malware or create exploits in order to later compromise your system.
Or getting arrested. I believe the safest way to buy and sell BTC is on an exchange platform.
Although localbitcoins is well established, cash and face to face transactions must be done with great caution and coordinated properly.
There are a myriad of potential dangers that one must deal with when exchanging funds in public location, example armed robberies and in some cases con-artists supposedly "forgetting" their laptops and borrowing yours with which they may plant malware or create exploits in order to later compromise your system.
While I have heard good things about localbitcoins.
I believe the safest way to buy and sell BTC is on an exchange platform.
Although localbitcoins is well established, cash and face to face transactions must be done with great caution and coordinated properly.
There are a myriad of potential dangers that one must deal with when exchanging funds in public location, example armed robberies and in some cases con-artists supposedly "forgetting" their laptops and borrowing yours with which they may plant malware or create exploits in order to later compromise your system.
I believe the safest way to buy and sell BTC is on an exchange platform.
Although localbitcoins is well established, cash and face to face transactions must be done with great caution and coordinated properly.
There are a myriad of potential dangers that one must deal with when exchanging funds in public location, example armed robberies and in some cases con-artists supposedly "forgetting" their laptops and borrowing yours with which they may plant malware or create exploits in order to later compromise your system.
I was arrested for trading Bitcoins, on Localbitcoins.com, in Colorado.
So far defending myself has cost our family almost $200,000
We can use all the help we can get, please see the fundraising web site put up by my wife Jean:
http://www.burtw.com
So far defending myself has cost our family almost $200,000
We can use all the help we can get, please see the fundraising web site put up by my wife Jean:
http://www.burtw.com
Wow that as an astronomical sum..
Why were you targeted by the authorities? Was it the sheer amount of Bitcoins you were trading? Or just unlucky?
Can anyone post a list of payment that is safe to accept on localbitcoins? I have taken cash deposits, walmart2walmart, moneygram, and WU. I'm assuming the payments I take are all safe. Correct?
I was arrested for trading Bitcoins, on Localbitcoins.com, in Colorado.
So far defending myself has cost our family almost $200,000
We can use all the help we can get, please see the fundraising web site put up by my wife Jean:
http://www.burtw.com
So far defending myself has cost our family almost $200,000
We can use all the help we can get, please see the fundraising web site put up by my wife Jean:
http://www.burtw.com
I have used cex.io and have no probs in months,not sure of LBC only used once and was bank transfer and everything went smooth but hear a lot of stories
Correct, but those instant access to money limits are increased over time as you conclude more transactions and build trust with Circle. I've only been using it for a few months now, and never used LocalBitcoins, but Circle is amazingly easy to use.
The issue with LocalBitcoins, for my area, is that the sellers are few and far between that are willing to do cash, and they usually have minimum limits that aren't necessarily accessible to everyone, plus their markup is crazy high.
There's pros and cons to each option, Circle works best for me and I have absolutely no reason to ever even look at Localbitcoins.
The issue with LocalBitcoins, for my area, is that the sellers are few and far between that are willing to do cash, and they usually have minimum limits that aren't necessarily accessible to everyone, plus their markup is crazy high.
There's pros and cons to each option, Circle works best for me and I have absolutely no reason to ever even look at Localbitcoins.
How so? Circle has limits on the amounts, LBC does not.
Was gonna use LBC, but then Circle.com came out and it instantly took care of that.
I think BurtW must update this thread, with some details on why they arrested him?
If localBitcoins are targeted in the USA or any other country, for whatever reason, we should all know about it. We cannot use a service and then get arrested, for doing something wrong, if everyone kept saying, it was a legitimate operation.
I think this is why, Coinbase is going the regulated / licenced route in the USA, to prevent this from happening to other people.
One of these days, you will not be able to buy Bitcoins, if the NSA/FBI/NASA/ or ALL government institutions have not approved it. {So much for privacy and annonymity}
If localBitcoins are targeted in the USA or any other country, for whatever reason, we should all know about it. We cannot use a service and then get arrested, for doing something wrong, if everyone kept saying, it was a legitimate operation.
I think this is why, Coinbase is going the regulated / licenced route in the USA, to prevent this from happening to other people.
One of these days, you will not be able to buy Bitcoins, if the NSA/FBI/NASA/ or ALL government institutions have not approved it. {So much for privacy and annonymity}
BurtW hasn't been online since 28 dec , so we don't know where he is , he will surely give us some heads up when he gets back.
Hope he is doing fine
I've been trading on LBC for almost 2 years and I've never had any problems meeting face to face.
Online payments require varying levels of caution that cash solves. P2P is very advantageous.
Online payments require varying levels of caution that cash solves. P2P is very advantageous.
I think BurtW must update this thread, with some details on why they arrested him?
If localBitcoins are targeted in the USA or any other country, for whatever reason, we should all know about it. We cannot use a service and then get arrested, for doing something wrong, if everyone kept saying, it was a legitimate operation.
I think this is why, Coinbase is going the regulated / licenced route in the USA, to prevent this from happening to other people.
One of these days, you will not be able to buy Bitcoins, if the NSA/FBI/NASA/ or ALL government institutions have not approved it. {So much for privacy and annonymity}
If localBitcoins are targeted in the USA or any other country, for whatever reason, we should all know about it. We cannot use a service and then get arrested, for doing something wrong, if everyone kept saying, it was a legitimate operation.
I think this is why, Coinbase is going the regulated / licenced route in the USA, to prevent this from happening to other people.
One of these days, you will not be able to buy Bitcoins, if the NSA/FBI/NASA/ or ALL government institutions have not approved it. {So much for privacy and annonymity}
Obviously I am a bit late in this post, but as I have over 2000 trades on LBC and turned over more $$$ than I would like to admit, I thought my feedback may help some people. Be aware that I am a trader and just buy at wholesale (When I can get it) and mark up a little and on sell. Generally I buy from mini 1st time sellers up some serious game players. The fight for me is just getting enough ongoing stock for my customer base. Really doesnt matter what quanity I get, normally I am out within minutes to a few hrs, that is not to say we do not go through some dull patches.
Either way, the issue isnt getting scammed a few $100 to a Few $1000. That is peanuts. The issue is Banks having zero tollerence for LBC in general (at least for Australia). A bank will shut down your account for even taking a few $100's from a Pilshed bank account. and that will cost you $100,000's of long term income ESPECIALLY CBA as they are king (and yes I lost that one, Fucking ouch)
Scammers dont stop, they still try with me every now and then, now I am concrete solid, follow my terms or hit the road. Big question is why would they still try on me when there are newbee's everywhere.
BIG THING, issue is not someone scamming you for the coins. Issue is taking the payment from a stolen bank account. BOTTOM LINE. NEVER NEVER EVER GIVE YOUR BANK ACCOUNT TO ANYONE WITHOUT CHECKING THEM OUT. They will send you cash no matter what your terms are and play dumb.
Hope someone gets something from my info.
AND if there are any out of work bikies out there. I am happy to pay $2000 to $5000 from some of my past scammers (Before I wised up) to find them, stick a bottle up their ass and smash it. Dont care if they took $100 from me, same reward.
Anyway here is my Bible, hope it protects someone. If anyone cares, this is me... https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/greenglobal/
FRAUDSTERS READ THIS, PEOPLE WANTING TO AVOID FRAUDSTERS READ THIS.
This is warning for sellers, if you are a buyer, then you are already protected by Escrow, Just mark paid when done and before timeout and you have nothing to worry about.
All Fraudsters/ Sellers should know the following
1. I am aware that people try and pay sellers with stolen Bank/ PayPal Accounts obtained by Pilshing. Banks will generally shutdown stolen bank accounts within 24 to 48 hrs. I will never give out my banking details until you provide ALL OF THE ABOVE ID REQUIREMENTS ABOVE). New traders will never get their coins released until funds have been cleared in my account (24 to 48 hrs Max).
2. Online transfers from CBA is the safest because the user must have a SMS/txt from CBA/Netbank with a security code to complete the transfer. HOWEVER, I am aware that Fraudsters also PORT the victim's mobile number so they also have control of the txt, meaning they have access to the online banking and the mobile and have full control of sending the funds. They can also break into the victim’s house and Steal their phone too. Saying this, CBA is still the safest option as ALL OTHER BANKS SECURITY IS USELESS. Any Pilshed account means they can immediately send funds out to a bitcoin seller. DO NOT EVER IMMEDIATELY GIVE YOUR BANK DETAILS TO ANYONE UNTIL 100% SATISFIED THAT THE BUYER IS REAL!!!
3. Bitcoin trading is not tolerated by any bank. If you get a payment from any Pilshed account, The bank will shut your account down and ban you from ever opening another (Even a Pty Ltd if you are the signature behind it). I have lost CBA, NAB and Suncorp for this reason. Even for a $200 payment. This = $100,000's is lost trade. Don’t trust anyone except MAYBE Pro Traders with 500 plus trades. (We have to much invested in BTC to scam anyone)
4. I am aware that Fraudsters are Experts of Photoshop and supply doctored Proof of payments. I am an expert Photoshop too and know exactly what to look for. Proof of payment means nothing without money in the bank. If accepting CBA/NETBANK, get the buyer to add your email to the "3rd party Notification" in the app/ online sending. That way you get notification from the bank themselves and not the buyer. BUT be aware, you only see the last few numbers of your account on the email so also is not without fault.
5. I am aware that Fraudsters are Experts of Photoshop and supply doctored Proof of ID and Address. I am a expert Photoshop too and know exactly what to look for. Always inspect all documents supplied in highest magnification.
6. I am aware that if it comes to a dispute between a seller and a Fraud Buyer, It is only your word vs his. A fraudster has nothing better to do than give stories to LBC admin and try and get a payday after LBC admin Mediation (Maybe even a 50% share. Just because the seller is right, don’t assume you can win. They can Photoshop whatever is needed and say that you Photoshop yours docs. Make it hard from them at the start and they will leave you alone. THEY ARE EVERYWHERE IN LBC.
7. More to come, Fraudsters, Piss off. There is nothing for you here.
Either way, the issue isnt getting scammed a few $100 to a Few $1000. That is peanuts. The issue is Banks having zero tollerence for LBC in general (at least for Australia). A bank will shut down your account for even taking a few $100's from a Pilshed bank account. and that will cost you $100,000's of long term income ESPECIALLY CBA as they are king (and yes I lost that one, Fucking ouch)
Scammers dont stop, they still try with me every now and then, now I am concrete solid, follow my terms or hit the road. Big question is why would they still try on me when there are newbee's everywhere.
BIG THING, issue is not someone scamming you for the coins. Issue is taking the payment from a stolen bank account. BOTTOM LINE. NEVER NEVER EVER GIVE YOUR BANK ACCOUNT TO ANYONE WITHOUT CHECKING THEM OUT. They will send you cash no matter what your terms are and play dumb.
Hope someone gets something from my info.
AND if there are any out of work bikies out there. I am happy to pay $2000 to $5000 from some of my past scammers (Before I wised up) to find them, stick a bottle up their ass and smash it. Dont care if they took $100 from me, same reward.
Anyway here is my Bible, hope it protects someone. If anyone cares, this is me... https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/greenglobal/
FRAUDSTERS READ THIS, PEOPLE WANTING TO AVOID FRAUDSTERS READ THIS.
This is warning for sellers, if you are a buyer, then you are already protected by Escrow, Just mark paid when done and before timeout and you have nothing to worry about.
All Fraudsters/ Sellers should know the following
1. I am aware that people try and pay sellers with stolen Bank/ PayPal Accounts obtained by Pilshing. Banks will generally shutdown stolen bank accounts within 24 to 48 hrs. I will never give out my banking details until you provide ALL OF THE ABOVE ID REQUIREMENTS ABOVE). New traders will never get their coins released until funds have been cleared in my account (24 to 48 hrs Max).
2. Online transfers from CBA is the safest because the user must have a SMS/txt from CBA/Netbank with a security code to complete the transfer. HOWEVER, I am aware that Fraudsters also PORT the victim's mobile number so they also have control of the txt, meaning they have access to the online banking and the mobile and have full control of sending the funds. They can also break into the victim’s house and Steal their phone too. Saying this, CBA is still the safest option as ALL OTHER BANKS SECURITY IS USELESS. Any Pilshed account means they can immediately send funds out to a bitcoin seller. DO NOT EVER IMMEDIATELY GIVE YOUR BANK DETAILS TO ANYONE UNTIL 100% SATISFIED THAT THE BUYER IS REAL!!!
3. Bitcoin trading is not tolerated by any bank. If you get a payment from any Pilshed account, The bank will shut your account down and ban you from ever opening another (Even a Pty Ltd if you are the signature behind it). I have lost CBA, NAB and Suncorp for this reason. Even for a $200 payment. This = $100,000's is lost trade. Don’t trust anyone except MAYBE Pro Traders with 500 plus trades. (We have to much invested in BTC to scam anyone)
4. I am aware that Fraudsters are Experts of Photoshop and supply doctored Proof of payments. I am an expert Photoshop too and know exactly what to look for. Proof of payment means nothing without money in the bank. If accepting CBA/NETBANK, get the buyer to add your email to the "3rd party Notification" in the app/ online sending. That way you get notification from the bank themselves and not the buyer. BUT be aware, you only see the last few numbers of your account on the email so also is not without fault.
5. I am aware that Fraudsters are Experts of Photoshop and supply doctored Proof of ID and Address. I am a expert Photoshop too and know exactly what to look for. Always inspect all documents supplied in highest magnification.
6. I am aware that if it comes to a dispute between a seller and a Fraud Buyer, It is only your word vs his. A fraudster has nothing better to do than give stories to LBC admin and try and get a payday after LBC admin Mediation (Maybe even a 50% share. Just because the seller is right, don’t assume you can win. They can Photoshop whatever is needed and say that you Photoshop yours docs. Make it hard from them at the start and they will leave you alone. THEY ARE EVERYWHERE IN LBC.
7. More to come, Fraudsters, Piss off. There is nothing for you here.
Real good info here , though i always trust LBC but got lil confused after reading the post of OP but thanks to you , and i always trade with people having 100+ feedback atleast
There's nothing to be worried about as a buyer when you use escrow.
I've used localbitcoins before. I think you just gotta have some common sense, It's usually easy to pick out a scammer. Like OP said though, there is definite risk when using currency with irreversible transactions
Obviously I am a bit late in this post, but as I have over 2000 trades on LBC and turned over more $$$ than I would like to admit, I thought my feedback may help some people. Be aware that I am a trader and just buy at wholesale (When I can get it) and mark up a little and on sell. Generally I buy from mini 1st time sellers up some serious game players. The fight for me is just getting enough ongoing stock for my customer base. Really doesnt matter what quanity I get, normally I am out within minutes to a few hrs, that is not to say we do not go through some dull patches.
Either way, the issue isnt getting scammed a few $100 to a Few $1000. That is peanuts. The issue is Banks having zero tollerence for LBC in general (at least for Australia). A bank will shut down your account for even taking a few $100's from a Pilshed bank account. and that will cost you $100,000's of long term income ESPECIALLY CBA as they are king (and yes I lost that one, Fucking ouch)
Scammers dont stop, they still try with me every now and then, now I am concrete solid, follow my terms or hit the road. Big question is why would they still try on me when there are newbee's everywhere.
BIG THING, issue is not someone scamming you for the coins. Issue is taking the payment from a stolen bank account. BOTTOM LINE. NEVER NEVER EVER GIVE YOUR BANK ACCOUNT TO ANYONE WITHOUT CHECKING THEM OUT. They will send you cash no matter what your terms are and play dumb.
Hope someone gets something from my info.
AND if there are any out of work bikies out there. I am happy to pay $2000 to $5000 from some of my past scammers (Before I wised up) to find them, stick a bottle up their ass and smash it. Dont care if they took $100 from me, same reward.
Anyway here is my Bible, hope it protects someone. If anyone cares, this is me... https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/greenglobal/
FRAUDSTERS READ THIS, PEOPLE WANTING TO AVOID FRAUDSTERS READ THIS.
This is warning for sellers, if you are a buyer, then you are already protected by Escrow, Just mark paid when done and before timeout and you have nothing to worry about.
All Fraudsters/ Sellers should know the following
1. I am aware that people try and pay sellers with stolen Bank/ PayPal Accounts obtained by Pilshing. Banks will generally shutdown stolen bank accounts within 24 to 48 hrs. I will never give out my banking details until you provide ALL OF THE ABOVE ID REQUIREMENTS ABOVE). New traders will never get their coins released until funds have been cleared in my account (24 to 48 hrs Max).
2. Online transfers from CBA is the safest because the user must have a SMS/txt from CBA/Netbank with a security code to complete the transfer. HOWEVER, I am aware that Fraudsters also PORT the victim's mobile number so they also have control of the txt, meaning they have access to the online banking and the mobile and have full control of sending the funds. They can also break into the victim’s house and Steal their phone too. Saying this, CBA is still the safest option as ALL OTHER BANKS SECURITY IS USELESS. Any Pilshed account means they can immediately send funds out to a bitcoin seller. DO NOT EVER IMMEDIATELY GIVE YOUR BANK DETAILS TO ANYONE UNTIL 100% SATISFIED THAT THE BUYER IS REAL!!!
3. Bitcoin trading is not tolerated by any bank. If you get a payment from any Pilshed account, The bank will shut your account down and ban you from ever opening another (Even a Pty Ltd if you are the signature behind it). I have lost CBA, NAB and Suncorp for this reason. Even for a $200 payment. This = $100,000's is lost trade. Don’t trust anyone except MAYBE Pro Traders with 500 plus trades. (We have to much invested in BTC to scam anyone)
4. I am aware that Fraudsters are Experts of Photoshop and supply doctored Proof of payments. I am an expert Photoshop too and know exactly what to look for. Proof of payment means nothing without money in the bank. If accepting CBA/NETBANK, get the buyer to add your email to the "3rd party Notification" in the app/ online sending. That way you get notification from the bank themselves and not the buyer. BUT be aware, you only see the last few numbers of your account on the email so also is not without fault.
5. I am aware that Fraudsters are Experts of Photoshop and supply doctored Proof of ID and Address. I am a expert Photoshop too and know exactly what to look for. Always inspect all documents supplied in highest magnification.
6. I am aware that if it comes to a dispute between a seller and a Fraud Buyer, It is only your word vs his. A fraudster has nothing better to do than give stories to LBC admin and try and get a payday after LBC admin Mediation (Maybe even a 50% share. Just because the seller is right, don’t assume you can win. They can Photoshop whatever is needed and say that you Photoshop yours docs. Make it hard from them at the start and they will leave you alone. THEY ARE EVERYWHERE IN LBC.
7. More to come, Fraudsters, Piss off. There is nothing for you here.
Either way, the issue isnt getting scammed a few $100 to a Few $1000. That is peanuts. The issue is Banks having zero tollerence for LBC in general (at least for Australia). A bank will shut down your account for even taking a few $100's from a Pilshed bank account. and that will cost you $100,000's of long term income ESPECIALLY CBA as they are king (and yes I lost that one, Fucking ouch)
Scammers dont stop, they still try with me every now and then, now I am concrete solid, follow my terms or hit the road. Big question is why would they still try on me when there are newbee's everywhere.
BIG THING, issue is not someone scamming you for the coins. Issue is taking the payment from a stolen bank account. BOTTOM LINE. NEVER NEVER EVER GIVE YOUR BANK ACCOUNT TO ANYONE WITHOUT CHECKING THEM OUT. They will send you cash no matter what your terms are and play dumb.
Hope someone gets something from my info.
AND if there are any out of work bikies out there. I am happy to pay $2000 to $5000 from some of my past scammers (Before I wised up) to find them, stick a bottle up their ass and smash it. Dont care if they took $100 from me, same reward.
Anyway here is my Bible, hope it protects someone. If anyone cares, this is me... https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/greenglobal/
FRAUDSTERS READ THIS, PEOPLE WANTING TO AVOID FRAUDSTERS READ THIS.
This is warning for sellers, if you are a buyer, then you are already protected by Escrow, Just mark paid when done and before timeout and you have nothing to worry about.
All Fraudsters/ Sellers should know the following
1. I am aware that people try and pay sellers with stolen Bank/ PayPal Accounts obtained by Pilshing. Banks will generally shutdown stolen bank accounts within 24 to 48 hrs. I will never give out my banking details until you provide ALL OF THE ABOVE ID REQUIREMENTS ABOVE). New traders will never get their coins released until funds have been cleared in my account (24 to 48 hrs Max).
2. Online transfers from CBA is the safest because the user must have a SMS/txt from CBA/Netbank with a security code to complete the transfer. HOWEVER, I am aware that Fraudsters also PORT the victim's mobile number so they also have control of the txt, meaning they have access to the online banking and the mobile and have full control of sending the funds. They can also break into the victim’s house and Steal their phone too. Saying this, CBA is still the safest option as ALL OTHER BANKS SECURITY IS USELESS. Any Pilshed account means they can immediately send funds out to a bitcoin seller. DO NOT EVER IMMEDIATELY GIVE YOUR BANK DETAILS TO ANYONE UNTIL 100% SATISFIED THAT THE BUYER IS REAL!!!
3. Bitcoin trading is not tolerated by any bank. If you get a payment from any Pilshed account, The bank will shut your account down and ban you from ever opening another (Even a Pty Ltd if you are the signature behind it). I have lost CBA, NAB and Suncorp for this reason. Even for a $200 payment. This = $100,000's is lost trade. Don’t trust anyone except MAYBE Pro Traders with 500 plus trades. (We have to much invested in BTC to scam anyone)
4. I am aware that Fraudsters are Experts of Photoshop and supply doctored Proof of payments. I am an expert Photoshop too and know exactly what to look for. Proof of payment means nothing without money in the bank. If accepting CBA/NETBANK, get the buyer to add your email to the "3rd party Notification" in the app/ online sending. That way you get notification from the bank themselves and not the buyer. BUT be aware, you only see the last few numbers of your account on the email so also is not without fault.
5. I am aware that Fraudsters are Experts of Photoshop and supply doctored Proof of ID and Address. I am a expert Photoshop too and know exactly what to look for. Always inspect all documents supplied in highest magnification.
6. I am aware that if it comes to a dispute between a seller and a Fraud Buyer, It is only your word vs his. A fraudster has nothing better to do than give stories to LBC admin and try and get a payday after LBC admin Mediation (Maybe even a 50% share. Just because the seller is right, don’t assume you can win. They can Photoshop whatever is needed and say that you Photoshop yours docs. Make it hard from them at the start and they will leave you alone. THEY ARE EVERYWHERE IN LBC.
7. More to come, Fraudsters, Piss off. There is nothing for you here.
You have to be careful on any trade you make on everything but that doesnt make localbitcoins a scam .
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