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Topic: BFL Announces 600GH/s 28nm PCIe Mining Card (Read 5669 times)

newbie
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March 31, 2014, 04:12:11 AM
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Really quoting accounts that have not been used for 2 years? You missed there current account

Inaba - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/inaba-8198

But your just as dense and accuse people of being 'raciest' and ignore them because you have such a closed mind! In some respects josh is right about you. You sit on a high horse and judge and think you are a master when you make yourself look like a ass wipe in this respect.

I agree with 90% of what you say, don't get me wrong but your misplaced aragance and your over assumption is letting you down, in all aspects of your life, not just here!
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Trust summary for Pokokohua! Newbie with 8 posts... amazing how this "member" of the community is so fluent in BFL BS already. Must be a multi account.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=90768

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Bicknellski 14: -0 / +16(16) 2014-03-30 0.00000000
Pathological liar. Cheats forum members repeatedly with false information over BFL,
their employees and their products -all successful- while his business fails,
has absolutely no technical knowledge, qualifies non working usb hubs as
bfl product failures. Falsely rates people who are producing hardware and
are an asset to the bitcoin community negative, and ridicules any forum
member that confronts him on his lies. Too bad a lot of these types hang
around on this forum, no orders but crying scam over legit companies,
while they are never seen in the real scam topics.

My response. Anyone else feel that people should not post for payments on the trust system are welcome to do what I have done and jam up this paid shills ratings.

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Bicknellski 14: -0 / +16(16) 2014-03-31 0.00000000
Reference Paid to post false and positive trust ratings.
See his trust posts. He was bought off by BFL. (Delete)

So this person spent 123 BTC and had wonderful feedback for the following. Really? Anyone care to post their thoughts and "trust" for the following. Feel free to speak your mind without being paid to do it.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bfljosh-63314 BFL_Josh
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bfl-44366 BFL
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
BFL= Blatant Fucking Liars.
They were so late delivering our ASICs that they gave us "chip credits"
We could use these credits to get "free chips/upgrades" if we paid more or rolled our order over.
Glad we didn't roll into the monarch, we would still be waiting.
Wasn't the monarch suppose to ship in jan14 or something too?


They originally said Nov/Dec...lol
newbie
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BFL= Blatant Fucking Liars.
They were so late delivering our ASICs that they gave us "chip credits"
We could use these credits to get "free chips/upgrades" if we paid more or rolled our order over.
Glad we didn't roll into the monarch, we would still be waiting.
Wasn't the monarch suppose to ship in jan14 or something too?
hero member
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Just when you thought bfl couldn't get any scummier they decide it would be a good idea to pay shills to boost their trust and give critics negative trust.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bfl-list-of-lies-525840

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5979745



newbie
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Is there anybody buying this? I can't belive it!

There's an idiot born every second.

Nobody can be that idiot! BFL are known for months for not being honest. What drives people invest in this kind of stuff?
full member
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Is there anybody buying this? I can't belive it!

There's an idiot born every second.
newbie
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Is there anybody buying this? I can't belive it!
sr. member
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When it comes to BFL business practices...this pic says it all  Embarrassed

hero member
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Nope, 13 months based on BFL statements they started the 28nm 6 months before the announcement on August 17th 2013. So counting back that is  July 17 , June 17, May 17, Apr 17, Mar 17 and finally Feb 17 2013.

Source: http://tradeblock.com/research/butterfly-labs-tests-market-tolerance-with-600-ghs-pre-order-announcement/?replytocom=9279?replytocom=9279


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Interestingly, they claim to have been working on chip development for 6 months now, meaning there was significant overlap between the period they began 28nm design and were working fixing delays in their 65nm product.

Customers now face the difficult challenge of deciding whether to roll over their current orders or to keep their spot in line. A Monarch delivered in December will be break-even at around a 75% monthly network increase through July. If shipments are pushed back to January, anything over a sustained monthly increase of 59% stops being profitable. Considering that the 500 GH/s rigs have not shipped yet, they seem the most likely candidates for conversion, though realistic expectations for shipping dates will be crucial to any decision.

Why you should never buy from them?

http://tarspublishing.com/butterflyrefund/
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
August 19, 2013 by Phillip Archer wrote:

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"Their website claims their design is in the final stages of development and will be sending wafers into production shortly.

We’re now we’re in at the final stage of development (Tapeout) and are sending wafers into production at the foundry in the next few weeks.
Foundry production takes 10 weeks.
Bumping, Slicing & BGA packaging takes approximately 2 weeks.
Initial shipments begin and ramp up to full capacity over the following 3 weeks.

Interestingly, they claim to have been working on chip development for 6 months now, meaning there was significant overlap between the period they began 28nm design and were working fixing delays in their 65nm product.

Customers now face the difficult challenge of deciding whether to roll over their current orders or to keep their spot in line. A Monarch delivered in December will be break-even at around a 75% monthly network increase through July. If shipments are pushed back to January, anything over a sustained monthly increase of 59% stops being profitable. Considering that the 500 GH/s rigs have not shipped yet, they seem the most likely candidates for conversion, though realistic expectations for shipping dates will be crucial to any decision."

13 months later still no chips.


Think you meant 8 months, 1 week? (at least since the post on august)

either way, its disgusting. BFL-Josh seems to have even stopped bothering to show up and berate forum users
hero member
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Merit: 1000
August 19, 2013 by Phillip Archer wrote:

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"Their website claims their design is in the final stages of development and will be sending wafers into production shortly.

We’re now we’re in at the final stage of development (Tapeout) and are sending wafers into production at the foundry in the next few weeks.
Foundry production takes 10 weeks.
Bumping, Slicing & BGA packaging takes approximately 2 weeks.
Initial shipments begin and ramp up to full capacity over the following 3 weeks.

Interestingly, they claim to have been working on chip development for 6 months now, meaning there was significant overlap between the period they began 28nm design and were working fixing delays in their 65nm product.

Customers now face the difficult challenge of deciding whether to roll over their current orders or to keep their spot in line. A Monarch delivered in December will be break-even at around a 75% monthly network increase through July. If shipments are pushed back to January, anything over a sustained monthly increase of 59% stops being profitable. Considering that the 500 GH/s rigs have not shipped yet, they seem the most likely candidates for conversion, though realistic expectations for shipping dates will be crucial to any decision."

13 months later still no chips.
legendary
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Merit: 1193
Where oh where are the Monarchs?

http://www.butterflylabs.com/monarch/

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Q: When do the 28nm Monarch cards ship?

A: However, this is our second generation, so we have much greater clarity on the process and plan to begin shipments in February, 2014.
hero member
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Merit: 1000
Where oh where are the Monarchs?
full member
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Merit: 100


You could order from KnC and get your unit in October and have it fully paid off by December or you could pay half as much and sit around for 6 months and get a monarch at a point in time where you make 5% of it's purchase cost per month.


Has KNC been able to show a prototype device yet?

They've shown the PCB:
https://www.kncminer.com/userfiles/image/ASIC_PCB.jpg

They can load the board up with FPGAs and run it with the same power as the real chips should take in order to test power delivery and thermal load.
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I will eat my shoes if this delivers on time with the specs described.

No way it will happen as predicted, the numbers do not add up in any way.
erk
hero member
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You could order from KnC and get your unit in October and have it fully paid off by December or you could pay half as much and sit around for 6 months and get a monarch at a point in time where you make 5% of it's purchase cost per month.


Has KNC been able to show a prototype device yet?
Of course not, they don't their chips from the fab until Sept. They only did tape out in July.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
legendary
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Merit: 1000


You could order from KnC and get your unit in October and have it fully paid off by December or you could pay half as much and sit around for 6 months and get a monarch at a point in time where you make 5% of it's purchase cost per month.


Has KNC been able to show a prototype device yet?
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
I bet it can run Crysis too!!

I just bought 8

CAN I HAZ ROEYES NOW?
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