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Topic: BFL ASIC Production Updates 2013 (Updated May 13) - page 2. (Read 3247 times)

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In case no one has figured out the subtle messages...It means BFL is still in the testing phase. A full wafer is 1,100 chips according to josh. You only package 100 chips when you are only asking for a sample. Meaning they are trying to save money and probably doing individual wafers. If you take that idea into account, the rest of their recent updates make sense as to why they are evolving so slowly. They are saving money at the expense of time, it seems.

For miners time is money.

Josh has also said that board revisions only take 24 to 48 hours. Recall that he said that last month. Did this revision of PCB's (boards) take 24 to 48 hours? No. It did not.

Learn to read past the bullshit and you will be a smart investor.


I figure that once the boards are ready and the chips are tested, this means they need approximately 8-10 weeks BEFORE they can start PRODUCTION in full.

Because that is how long it takes.
legendary
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In case no one has figured out the subtle messages...It means BFL is still in the testing phase. A full wafer is 1,100 chips according to josh. You only package 100 chips when you are only asking for a sample. Meaning they are trying to save money and probably doing individual wafers. If you take that idea into account, the rest of their recent updates make sense as to why they are evolving so slowly. They are saving money at the expense of time, it seems.

For miners time is money.

Josh has also said that board revisions only take 24 to 48 hours. Recall that he said that last month. Did this revision of PCB's (boards) take 24 to 48 hours? No. It did not.

Learn to read past the bullshit and you will be a smart investor.
legendary
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(Rather than posting new threads, figured I should probably start one long master thread of updates until they start shipping singles. Will aim to keep these first two posts full of "official" information culled from the BFL Forums until Singles start flowing out to customers. Will aim to keep this thread troll-free as there are plenty other troll threads in this sub.)

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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-3.html#post32585


BFL_Josh: 13 May 2013 Update

We just got off the phone with our testing facility... they will have ~100 chips in Chicago tomorrow. What configuration of boards all those are going in, I'm not sure yet as I haven't gotten that far, but I wanted to post an update. We should have more chips in Chicago by the end of the week. The chips going through mounting tomorrow should arrive in KC on Wednesday and we'll be shipping out some units then.

We are having some trouble with the new Single board and we are working through the issues now and should hopefully have a a resolution before the end of the week. Right now, the board is having trouble powering up the second bank of chips, so we are poking and prodding to figure out where the problem is and get it corrected. When we make a change to a board, we can have a revised board the next day, so it doesn't really set things back when we make revisions to an already existing board.

That said, we'll likely be creating a few Singles boards with this set of chips and a number of Jalapeno's. The expected larger quantity of chips later in the week will probably go more towards LS/S/MR boards.

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To those who know about chips and wafers....100 chips means it is a sample of a wafer.

That means that BFL is still trying to tackle the issue of power consumption. Effectively (I think) it means that they are doing only samples. They haven't....and likely aren't....going into full scale production for quite some time.

Forget May. Aim for Mid June. We hope.
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Good to see that BFL is significantly ramping up chip production. With 100 chips they should have no issues cranking out 400 units per day. Delays are sure to be a thing of the past from now on!

you had me crackin with this one! haha!

Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the third annual BFL 100, sponsored by Two Men and a Swarm of Locust: When it absolutely, positively, Honest Abe, has to be shipped out on time.

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Good to see that BFL is significantly ramping up chip production. With 100 chips they should have no issues cranking out 400 units per day. Delays are sure to be a thing of the past from now on!

you had me crackin with this one! haha!
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Josh doesn't view their current timeline of delays as "setting things back".

Meaning they are "on track" as previously planned? Planned delays? lol
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100?

Wow... that is not an update at all that is an apology.


Right now, the board is having trouble powering up the second bank of chips, so we are poking and prodding to figure out where the problem is and get it corrected. When we make a change to a board, we can have a revised board the next day, so it doesn't really set things back when we make revisions to an already existing board.


It doesn't REALLY set things back Huh??



Josh is a clown---
legendary
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(Rather than posting new threads, figured I should probably start one long master thread of updates until they start shipping singles. Will aim to keep these first two posts full of "official" information culled from the BFL Forums until Singles start flowing out to customers. Will aim to keep this thread troll-free as there are plenty other troll threads in this sub.)

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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-3.html#post32585


BFL_Josh: 13 May 2013 Update

We just got off the phone with our testing facility... they will have ~100 chips in Chicago tomorrow. What configuration of boards all those are going in, I'm not sure yet as I haven't gotten that far, but I wanted to post an update. We should have more chips in Chicago by the end of the week. The chips going through mounting tomorrow should arrive in KC on Wednesday and we'll be shipping out some units then.

We are having some trouble with the new Single board and we are working through the issues now and should hopefully have a a resolution before the end of the week. Right now, the board is having trouble powering up the second bank of chips, so we are poking and prodding to figure out where the problem is and get it corrected. When we make a change to a board, we can have a revised board the next day, so it doesn't really set things back when we make revisions to an already existing board.

That said, we'll likely be creating a few Singles boards with this set of chips and a number of Jalapeno's. The expected larger quantity of chips later in the week will probably go more towards LS/S/MR boards.

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legendary
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Don't worry, BFL will ship "next week".  Grin
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"poking" - that's what I used to do with my car tyres.... I wished they would ship my 2012 orders now....so tired of waiting.
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Good to see that BFL is significantly ramping up chip production. With 100 chips they should have no issues cranking out 400 units per day. Delays are sure to be a thing of the past from now on!
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100?

Wow... that is not an update at all that is an apology.


Right now, the board is having trouble powering up the second bank of chips, so we are poking and prodding to figure out where the problem is and get it corrected. When we make a change to a board, we can have a revised board the next day, so it doesn't really set things back when we make revisions to an already existing board.


It doesn't REALLY set things back Huh??
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
So only 100 chips?

I was under the impression they were ordering a ton more via wafers of them.

It is unnerving that almost every detail they specify is vague. They do not know what larger quantity of chips they will be getting. The "shoulds" and "hopefully's" are getting old. A development company should not be based on faith and hope. But that is what is expected right now.

All trolling aside, this update does not give much hope for shipping of their back orders en masse to be done anytime soon (i.e. in the next 30 days).
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legendary
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(Rather than posting new threads, figured I should probably start one long master thread of updates until they start shipping singles. Will aim to keep these first two posts full of "official" information culled from the BFL Forums until Singles start flowing out to customers. Will aim to keep this thread troll-free as there are plenty other troll threads in this sub.)

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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-3.html#post32585


BFL_Josh: 13 May 2013 Update

We just got off the phone with our testing facility... they will have ~100 chips in Chicago tomorrow. What configuration of boards all those are going in, I'm not sure yet as I haven't gotten that far, but I wanted to post an update. We should have more chips in Chicago by the end of the week. The chips going through mounting tomorrow should arrive in KC on Wednesday and we'll be shipping out some units then.

We are having some trouble with the new Single board and we are working through the issues now and should hopefully have a a resolution before the end of the week. Right now, the board is having trouble powering up the second bank of chips, so we are poking and prodding to figure out where the problem is and get it corrected. When we make a change to a board, we can have a revised board the next day, so it doesn't really set things back when we make revisions to an already existing board.

That said, we'll likely be creating a few Singles boards with this set of chips and a number of Jalapeno's. The expected larger quantity of chips later in the week will probably go more towards LS/S/MR boards.

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