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Topic: {BFL} Bitcoin miners sue Butterfly Labs - page 4. (Read 9585 times)

legendary
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February 02, 2014, 02:11:25 PM
#25
Are you ingnorant or just plain stupid?  I did answer his question, I told him my Monarch was in the same place his WASP and HIVE are ATM.  I still bet I have my hands on a Monarch before I do on a WASP.

That's not an answer, that's a deflection.  So BFL's Monarch is still in the design phase?  The same phase where the Wasp people haven't taken any money?  The one where they were going to ship the "bullet run" cards in November? That's where you claim the Monarch's are?

I should hope you'll have your hands on a Monarch before a WASP considering they (Monarch) were supposed to be delivered months ago, that you and a bunch of other idiots found it viable to give BFL millions of dollars for R&D/NRE based on more of J. Zerlan's bullshit hopes, dreams, and expectations.  I absolutely expect that a bunch of people claiming to be "industry leaders" with millions in their budget to outperform a community driven project. 

If your only defence to BFL's Monarch failures is to beat the Wasp dead horse some more than maybe you're dumber than I thought.  To those of us who have nothing invested in either project you look like a fool pointing your finger at some community pseudo-open source project as your excuse as to why it's okay the horse you backed is failing yet again.

Just so we're clear:  I don't give a shit about Bicknellski's WASP project.  I did not ask about Bicknellski's WASP project, I asked about BFL's Monarch.  Don't deflect, where is the product?  Show me the successes of the company you're rooting for.  

  
hero member
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February 02, 2014, 09:31:37 AM
#24
I figured you'd be too chicken to man up yet again Bickski.

I figured all of you washed up BFL shills had moved onto some other dead horse to beat.  Guess not.  I see you forgot to respond to the other poster's questions, so let me re-iterate.  Where's that Monarch of yours?

Here's another thought:  with that supposed intelligence of yours, why don't you branch out into other areas of bitcointalk so you don't come off as such a one-trick pony.
Are you ingnorant or just plain stupid?  I did answer his question, I told him my Monarch was in the same place his WASP and HIVE are ATM.  I still bet I have my hands on a Monarch before I do on a WASP.
hero member
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February 02, 2014, 05:46:43 AM
#23
Taunts?

That is how he replies?

Lawsuit thoughts?

Monarch 4 months late thoughts?


Crickets yet again.

I'll be sure to be back in the BFL Monarch Order thread on 18 February when my deadline is for checking in on how much he and others have mined so far on their Monarchs.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3772046
 
My guess come February 18th he will have mined exactly 0 BTC. He will be waiting until March, April possibly May or later for a unit. At this point I am pretty happy he has no clue how to buy miners with at least a hope in hell of making it to market at a reasonable price and that are NOT chicken wired together and require you put it in a snowbank to get it working again or shipped with bottom of the barrel cheap and dangerous Chinese knock off PSU's that have almost burned down a house or nearly electrocuted a few people.

This guy like others is a paid shill for BFL and that is why he is on ignore with the rest of the liars that still support BFL. It is obvious to most the game they play is simply to deny deny deny when the proof is everywhere that they everyone of them lacks the basic ethics that are standard to most human beings. What takes REAL balls and REAL courage is to tell the truth and not be BOUGHT by BFL. Being a liar is pretty easy and the way of a coward or a sociopath I wonder which one he is?
legendary
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February 02, 2014, 02:00:59 AM
#22
I figured you'd be too chicken to man up yet again Bickski.

I figured all of you washed up BFL shills had moved onto some other dead horse to beat.  Guess not.  I see you forgot to respond to the other poster's questions, so let me re-iterate.  Where's that Monarch of yours?

Here's another thought:  with that supposed intelligence of yours, why don't you branch out into other areas of bitcointalk so you don't come off as such a one-trick pony.

Got a pic of bcp19 & Josh hangin out on a field trip  Cheesy

legendary
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February 02, 2014, 01:29:48 AM
#21
I figured you'd be too chicken to man up yet again Bickski.

I figured all of you washed up BFL shills had moved onto some other dead horse to beat.  Guess not.  I see you forgot to respond to the other poster's questions, so let me re-iterate.  Where's that Monarch of yours?

Here's another thought:  with that supposed intelligence of yours, why don't you branch out into other areas of bitcointalk so you don't come off as such a one-trick pony.
hero member
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February 02, 2014, 01:17:17 AM
#20
October, November, December, January and now February do you know where your Monarch is? 4 months behind initial estimates. I am sensing a pattern. Overpriced, 600 / 300 gh/s arriving in Huh you get a goose egg on this product no matter what you say it is a dog of product that doesn't even have working chips yet. LOL.

Lawsuits.

FCC breathing down BFL's neck. Oh boy this year is going to be AWESOME.
hero member
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February 01, 2014, 03:36:59 PM
#19
http://www.btcpedia.com/butterfly-labs-announces-monarch-mining-blade/

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From past experience to anyone new here considering purchasing from this company, if they are promising November/December 2013 delivery, you can expect to receive it in January or February of 2015. No, I am not joking.

It took BFL 14 months from when they started taking pre-orders for their ASIC line to when they finally started shipping them in any kind of volume to real customers.
I figured you'd be too chicken to man up yet again Bickski.
hero member
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February 01, 2014, 10:52:40 AM
#18
http://www.btcpedia.com/butterfly-labs-announces-monarch-mining-blade/

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From past experience to anyone new here considering purchasing from this company, if they are promising November/December 2013 delivery, you can expect to receive it in January or February of 2015. No, I am not joking.

It took BFL 14 months from when they started taking pre-orders for their ASIC line to when they finally started shipping them in any kind of volume to real customers.
hero member
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February 01, 2014, 10:20:41 AM
#17
Appears to be in the same place as your December WASp rollout.

Remind me, how many millions of dollars of pre-order funds has WASP collected?

We have collected a lot of sweat equity and some funds from our members to cover all the development costs and we continue to work together with everyone in agreement that it is always working product first and foremost above 'ROLLOUT' or 'PRE-SALES'. It has to be working first and there is no shame in doing things the right way unlike BFL who has continually lied about production / shipping dates to customers. At this point there are no customers for our product and when we do have something working then we can talk about failure to deliver and the appropriate focus on customers and not the customers money like BFL has. When invited to hear our EE's speak the BFL shills didn't bother to come guess they were too busy.

We have taken 0$ or BTC from anyone outside the WPC.

Unlike BFL we are not leveraging the community to make us rich we are trying to do what is right. Product first then sales and delivery or in our case licensing. He might want to also mention the fact we are providing the design as open source hardware.

Funny eh and further why doesn't he want to comment on the LAWSUIT? I wonder why that is? Where is that Monarch you ordered?
Are you asking why *I* don't want to comment on the lawsuit?  Cause if you are, then you are blind as well and stupid.  That lawsuit is a complete farse, the guy claims 150BTC/day which would only happen if he were the ONLY person to have added a pair of mini-rigs to the network back in May and discounts the fact that 10 months of people would have needed to get their orders for him to have his in hand. 

How many of those 'shares' to get into the collective did you sell?  While that's NOT a pre-order, that's funding.

Personally, what I find truly sad is that not only are you NOT taking the time and money to create your own ASIC design, you're not even planning on putting out a product at all!  You are merely going to sell a license to produce your invention and let others take on the burden of building them while you sit in the background and collect money.  Looks to me like you have all of the profit with none of the expense while the people who purchase a license from you have to pass that cost to their customers.

I also notice that you have changed your tune Bickski... I've not seen you mention TAPEOUT in a while, is that cause of all the egg on your face when the wafers were delivered to the slicing facility?  I'll bet you that I have a Monarch in my hands before I have one of your WASPs or HIVEs in them.
hero member
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February 01, 2014, 04:31:46 AM
#16
Appears to be in the same place as your December WASp rollout.

Remind me, how many millions of dollars of pre-order funds has WASP collected?

We have collected a lot of sweat equity and some funds from our members to cover all the development costs and we continue to work together with everyone in agreement that it is always working product first and foremost above 'ROLLOUT' or 'PRE-SALES'. It has to be working first and there is no shame in doing things the right way unlike BFL who has continually lied about production / shipping dates to customers. At this point there are no customers for our product and when we do have something working then we can talk about failure to deliver and the appropriate focus on customers and not the customers money like BFL has. When invited to hear our EE's speak the BFL shills didn't bother to come guess they were too busy.

We have taken 0$ or BTC from anyone outside the WPC.

Unlike BFL we are not leveraging the community to make us rich we are trying to do what is right. Product first then sales and delivery or in our case licensing. He might want to also mention the fact we are providing the design as open source hardware.

Funny eh and further why doesn't he want to comment on the LAWSUIT? I wonder why that is? Where is that Monarch you ordered?
legendary
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February 01, 2014, 03:37:17 AM
#15
Appears to be in the same place as your December WASp rollout.

Remind me, how many millions of dollars of pre-order funds has WASP collected?
hero member
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January 31, 2014, 10:48:22 PM
#14
Where is that Monarch you ordered?


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"The focus is on customer satisfaction with BF Labs and our products," the company said in a statement through its attorney, Jim Humphrey of Polsinelli PC. "And we are disappointed in the filing of the lawsuit. We are taking this issue very seriously, and once we were notified of the lawsuit, we took steps to defend our interests, and we will continue to do so vigorously as we dispute the claims"


Laughable.


Appears to be in the same place as your December WASp rollout.
legendary
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
January 31, 2014, 12:06:10 AM
#13
I am going to guess BFL's strategy will be to either delay this as long as humanly possible and then settle and gag this guy or settle and gag him ASAP.  I also guess BFL never wants this to see the inside of a court room.  However if both sides dig in for a battle it will extremely interesting to see what discovery will bring to the surface  Smiley

hero member
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January 30, 2014, 11:28:36 PM
#12
Where is that Monarch you ordered?


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"The focus is on customer satisfaction with BF Labs and our products," the company said in a statement through its attorney, Jim Humphrey of Polsinelli PC. "And we are disappointed in the filing of the lawsuit. We are taking this issue very seriously, and once we were notified of the lawsuit, we took steps to defend our interests, and we will continue to do so vigorously as we dispute the claims"


Laughable.

hero member
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January 30, 2014, 08:43:27 PM
#11
ROFLMAO!  This guy thinks he'd have made 150 BTC per day from a March order.  Damn, he must have some good drugs.  "Gee, there's 10 months of people BEFORE me who ordered this, yet they won't affect the difficulty one bit".  This is the sad part of BTC miners... they ALL think they'd have been the only one to order and get the gear when they figure their "losses".
hero member
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January 30, 2014, 08:26:04 PM
#10
Josh care to comment publicly on this case which you are damn sure aware of?

Please make your comment for the RECORD.


Now I have something to do with all the screen prints from the BFL forum.....


Dear Mr. Flynn.....

legendary
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January 30, 2014, 07:39:39 PM
#9
Leawood-based BF Labs Inc., better known as Butterfly Labs, has spent the past year defending itself to angry customers who preordered equipment that took months longer to ship than the company promised.

Couldn't happen to a better company.

The article totally forgot to mention that BFL publicly states its customers are monumental assholes that no one gives a shit about.
legendary
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January 30, 2014, 07:35:33 PM
#8
Leawood-based BF Labs Inc., better known as Butterfly Labs, has spent the past year defending itself to angry customers who preordered equipment that took months longer to ship than the company promised.

Couldn't happen to a better company.
hero member
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StayFocus and LIVE
January 30, 2014, 07:34:56 PM
#7
It reads "[b] considered [/b] to be one of the top producers of Bitcoin mining equipment is headed to court."
hero member
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StayFocus and LIVE
January 30, 2014, 07:31:14 PM
#6
The first sentence of the article is wrong. I stopped reading right there.

what do you mean ?(

"A local company considered to be one of the top producers of Bitcoin mining equipment is headed to court."

If the first sentence is BS, how can one trust anything else the article says? Wink


LOL I seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee  Shocked but at least some has the cajones to sue the "least reliable ASIC company" in the world.
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