BFL creates new charity project to donate 1000 BTC to [ROFL!] - page 3.

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Quote from: Syke on June 09, 2013, 09:16:46 PM

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Quote from: kano on June 09, 2013, 05:52:23 AM

Just an FYI I did indeed get 10BTC donated to me about an hour ago.

That's nice, but are you a "charity"?

He's donated a shit-ton of work, time, and intellectual property to the bitcoin community, if that's what you're asking...

He doesn't have a piece of paper from the dot-gov declaring him a registered religion, if that's what you're asking...

BFL is the one claiming to be donating to charity. If they were going to donate the 1000 btc to the community, or to random people, or something else, then they should have said so. But they promised to donate the 1000 btc to "charity". I don't care if Kano is Satoshi himself. He is *not* a charity. All "donations" to non-charities need to be removed from their fake charity page.

No, BFL created their own charity, which claims to be donating to causes that benefit the bitcoin community, and other humanitarian projects. They already created and donated to a charity, now they're putting the donations to work, since that's what charities do...

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Quote from: k9quaint on June 09, 2013, 08:56:14 PM

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Quote from: wrenchmonkey on June 09, 2013, 08:17:02 PM

And yet, I couldn't give a fuck less about the IRS' point of view on the matter. They're a bunch of thugs and slave drivers, and political vendetta and campaign errand boys for the current administration. Zero fucks given about the IRS' opinion on this matter, which has precicely NOTHING to do with them. Wink

For the IRS reps playing at home, wenchmonkey is Josh Zerlan who's on record for stating the same vile toward your fine establishment.

If you don't believe me, have the NSA check the logs of this forum that they have on file.

More proof that you don't ever let facts have any bearing on your statements. Wink

Why would it matter what I, or anybody else, have to say about the IRS, it wasn't already pretty well accepted that they're a bunch of goons and thieves?

Funny how the defender(s) of BFL never seems to want to follow the law, or even acknowledge that it exists.
Telling.

I pay my taxes, I follow the law, I acknowledge it exists. Why do you always try and twist things into something they're not?

I also just happen to acknowledge that slavery is not a proper system. Some people are okay with it, I'm not, however, that ALSO has nothing to do with whether or not BFL's donations are going to noble causes... The IRS is about as much an expert on noble causes, as the Pope is an expert on astrophysics.

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Quote from: wrenchmonkey on June 09, 2013, 07:25:30 PM

Quote from: Syke on June 09, 2013, 09:34:26 AM

Quote from: kano on June 09, 2013, 05:52:23 AM

Just an FYI I did indeed get 10BTC donated to me about an hour ago.

That's nice, but are you a "charity"?

He's donated a shit-ton of work, time, and intellectual property to the bitcoin community, if that's what you're asking...

He doesn't have a piece of paper from the dot-gov declaring him a registered religion, if that's what you're asking...

BFL is the one claiming to be donating to charity. If they were going to donate the 1000 btc to the community, or to random people, or something else, then they should have said so. But they promised to donate the 1000 btc to "charity". I don't care if Kano is Satoshi himself. He is *not* a charity. All "donations" to non-charities need to be removed from their fake charity page.

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Quote from: wrenchmonkey on June 09, 2013, 08:46:12 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 09, 2013, 08:20:14 PM

Quote from: wrenchmonkey on June 09, 2013, 08:17:02 PM

And yet, I couldn't give a fuck less about the IRS' point of view on the matter. They're a bunch of thugs and slave drivers, and political vendetta and campaign errand boys for the current administration. Zero fucks given about the IRS' opinion on this matter, which has precicely NOTHING to do with them. Wink

For the IRS reps playing at home, wenchmonkey is Josh Zerlan who's on record for stating the same vile toward your fine establishment.

If you don't believe me, have the NSA check the logs of this forum that they have on file.

More proof that you don't ever let facts have any bearing on your statements. Wink

Why would it matter what I, or anybody else, have to say about the IRS, it wasn't already pretty well accepted that they're a bunch of goons and thieves?

Funny how the defender(s) of BFL never seems to want to follow the law, or even acknowledge that it exists.
Telling.

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 09, 2013, 08:20:14 PM

Quote from: wrenchmonkey on June 09, 2013, 08:17:02 PM

And yet, I couldn't give a fuck less about the IRS' point of view on the matter. They're a bunch of thugs and slave drivers, and political vendetta and campaign errand boys for the current administration. Zero fucks given about the IRS' opinion on this matter, which has precicely NOTHING to do with them. Wink

For the IRS reps playing at home, wenchmonkey is Josh Zerlan who's on record for stating the same vile toward your fine establishment.

If you don't believe me, have the NSA check the logs of this forum that they have on file.

More proof that you don't ever let facts have any bearing on your statements. Wink

Why would it matter what I, or anybody else, have to say about the IRS, it wasn't already pretty well accepted that they're a bunch of goons and thieves?

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Quote from: wrenchmonkey on June 09, 2013, 08:17:02 PM

And yet, I couldn't give a fuck less about the IRS' point of view on the matter. They're a bunch of thugs and slave drivers, and political vendetta and campaign errand boys for the current administration. Zero fucks given about the IRS' opinion on this matter, which has precicely NOTHING to do with them. Wink

Why are you always so angry?

Relax and calm down a bit.

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Quote from: wrenchmonkey on June 09, 2013, 08:17:02 PM

And yet, I couldn't give a fuck less about the IRS' point of view on the matter. They're a bunch of thugs and slave drivers, and political vendetta and campaign errand boys for the current administration. Zero fucks given about the IRS' opinion on this matter, which has precicely NOTHING to do with them. Wink

For the IRS reps playing at home, wenchmonkey is Josh Zerlan who's on record for stating the same vile toward your fine establishment.

If you don't believe me, have the NSA check the logs of this forum that they have on file.

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And yet, I couldn't give a fuck less about the IRS' point of view on the matter. They're a bunch of thugs and slave drivers, and political vendetta and campaign errand boys for the current administration. Zero fucks given about the IRS' opinion on this matter, which has precicely NOTHING to do with them. Wink

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Thats not how the IRS sees it.

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Quote from: k9quaint on June 09, 2013, 07:41:53 PM

Quote from: wrenchmonkey on June 09, 2013, 07:25:30 PM

He doesn't have a piece of paper from the dot-gov declaring him a registered religion, if that's what you're asking...

So he is not a charity. Thanks for clearing that up.

Let me clear something else up for you as well: Recipients FROM charities are very rarely charities themselves. The whole purpose of charities is to distribute funding to various people/projects. If you donate money to a mosquito net charity, they're not gonna buy the mosquito nets to be passed from one charity to another like a game of hot potato, they're gonna give it to, *GASP* a PERSON! A person who is NOT a charity!

What does that do, does that blow your mind? Shocked

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Quote from: erschiessen on June 09, 2013, 07:30:09 PM

Quote from: wrenchmonkey on June 09, 2013, 07:25:30 PM

Quote from: Syke on June 09, 2013, 09:34:26 AM

Quote from: kano on June 09, 2013, 05:52:23 AM

Just an FYI I did indeed get 10BTC donated to me about an hour ago.

That's nice, but are you a "charity"?

He's donated a shit-ton of work, time, and intellectual property to the bitcoin community, if that's what you're asking...

He doesn't have a piece of paper from the dot-gov declaring him a registered religion, if that's what you're asking...

A trade of hardware for software isn't a donation, IMHO.

Having the hardware on hand in order to be able to program software to make the fucking thing work is not a trade. Mighty difficult to develop software for hardware you don't have available.

Nor has the sum of Kano and other CGMiner developers work even REMOTELY fit into building software drivers for the Jalapeno...

But go on ahead with that sourpuss approach of yours, if that's what feels right. Because I doubt whether BFL or the CGMiner team give a fuck how you feel about it. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: wrenchmonkey on June 09, 2013, 07:25:30 PM

He doesn't have a piece of paper from the dot-gov declaring him a registered religion, if that's what you're asking...

So he is not a charity. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Quote from: wrenchmonkey on June 09, 2013, 07:25:30 PM

Quote from: Syke on June 09, 2013, 09:34:26 AM

Quote from: kano on June 09, 2013, 05:52:23 AM

Just an FYI I did indeed get 10BTC donated to me about an hour ago.

That's nice, but are you a "charity"?

He's donated a shit-ton of work, time, and intellectual property to the bitcoin community, if that's what you're asking...

He doesn't have a piece of paper from the dot-gov declaring him a registered religion, if that's what you're asking...

A trade of hardware for software isn't a donation, IMHO.

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Quote from: Syke on June 09, 2013, 09:34:26 AM

Quote from: kano on June 09, 2013, 05:52:23 AM

Just an FYI I did indeed get 10BTC donated to me about an hour ago.

That's nice, but are you a "charity"?

He's donated a shit-ton of work, time, and intellectual property to the bitcoin community, if that's what you're asking...

He doesn't have a piece of paper from the dot-gov declaring him a registered religion, if that's what you're asking...

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Quote from: FloridaBear on June 08, 2013, 12:13:37 AM

Quote from: wrenchmonkey on June 07, 2013, 10:39:27 AM

Since when does a piece of paper from the government determine whether or not something is charity or not? Most 503-C organizations are churches. One of the biggest scams of all history!

Fuck government registration. Judge them by what the money actually goes toward, not their tax exempt status...

If you read my second post, I did exactly that.

This was a general comment, not directed at you or anybody else in particular. Using tax status to determine ANYTHING about a company is really pretty silly. Plenty of massive scams and abuses operate every day under tax exempt status.

CGminer and its programmers have inarguably helped the bitcoin community as a whole. And I don't see where they are charging vendors for writing drivers or implementing hardware support into the CGMiner project, so the assertion that they're paying their contractor bills by donating to that project seems largely unfounded.

Can somebody point me to evidence that there was any sort of contract or monetary arrangement between BFL and the CGMiner project folks prior to BFL deciding to make a donation?

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Quote from: -ck on June 09, 2013, 06:59:06 PM

Quote from: erschiessen on June 09, 2013, 08:44:22 AM

Quote from: PuertoLibre on June 09, 2013, 08:39:18 AM

Yeah, give it to Cklovias.

Or buy him a gold plated keyboard. For the low resistance to programing. Wink

LOL

I gave him the 10BTC since the donation from BFL was to "cgminer" and not "ckolivas" and he's a significant part of the team.

I understand,

But if you make the payment to Kano an investment opportunity, then Kano might just pay himself off in dividends. I am unsure though as I am not a programmer ANALyst.

You might also want to change the nature of the payment to a sponsorship. In this way Kano must always wear your logo or avatar wherever he goes.

(Im just joking)

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Quote from: erschiessen on June 09, 2013, 08:44:22 AM

Quote from: PuertoLibre on June 09, 2013, 08:39:18 AM

Yeah, give it to Cklovias.

Or buy him a gold plated keyboard. For the low resistance to programing. Wink

LOL

I gave him the 10BTC since the donation from BFL was to "cgminer" and not "ckolivas" and he's a significant part of the team.

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I owe $200 USD to BFL to be given away to a charity. I have decided which charity I'm going to support. There just so happens to be a strip joint here in Sandwich, IL, and I'm going to dole the $200 out at $1 at a time to the dancers. I will write Bitcoin on each dollar before I do such.

Thank you for playing.

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