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Topic: BFL creates new charity project to donate 1000 BTC to [ROFL!] - page 6. (Read 8555 times)

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I wonder if they are bothering to use old coins, or they're just throwing the new ones they made into it......


Keep in mind some of BFL Big players, ie multiple mini rigs etc are co located there and receive special treatment. That blip you see may be one or several of their prototype rigs and not BFL itself mining.
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I wonder if they are bothering to use old coins, or they're just throwing the new ones they made into it......
legendary
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I don't have an issue with BFL giving 50 BTC to Ckolivas and Lukejr for their time and effort coding mining software. I do however have an issue with them making said payments under the guise of a charity donation.

When the initial charity bet was made by BFL, I was under the impression the 1000 BTC would go to a REAL charity that helps people that are of REAL need to be helped. Charities help people in need... people that are starving, people that are thirsty, people that don't have homes, etc.

No offense meant by this, but it doesn't seem like either ckolivas or lukejr fit the mold as people whom a charity would help. It seems like the both have a roof over their heads, food, and water.

I'm disappointed to say the least, but not surprised at all considering we are talking about BFL.

Let me ask this: How will BFL declare these two donations on their tax return forms? Since neither entity is a sanctioned NPO, I doubt it'll be filed as a charitable donation. And since it can't be filed as such, there's still 1000K BTC to be given away to charities that are approved as such in the IRS' eyes.

Looks to me, BFL fucked up again.
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I wonder if Theymos made the "Trust" segment in expectation of this and will just say "Okay, I finally agree that BFL are a bit shady but now we can just give their forum account negative feedback if you feel like it. Thanks for playing!"
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I don't have an issue with BFL giving 50 BTC to Ckolivas and Lukejr for their time and effort coding mining software. I do however have an issue with them making said payments under the guise of a charity donation.

When the initial charity bet was made by BFL, I was under the impression the 1000 BTC would go to a REAL charity that helps people that are of REAL need to be helped. Charities help people in need... people that are starving, people that are thirsty, people that don't have homes, etc.

No offense meant by this, but it doesn't seem like either ckolivas or lukejr fit the mold as people whom a charity would help. It seems like the both have a roof over their heads, food, and water.

I'm disappointed to say the least, but not surprised at all considering we are talking about BFL.
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Could have been a bunch of horseshit, but there are dudes on this forum that are trying to do good via BTC.

Bicknellski (I think) helps a Montessouri school in Indonesia.

I recall someone with a signature line about building homes for the homeless, with BTC.

I hope these folks are helped out by the BFL "charity".


LOL! Do more than help. I own the school.

I don't think we need BTC from BFL to keep going but yes there are certainly many charities that could further bitcoin and altcoins in new places.

I was sort of tongue and cheek asking for BFL donations.

Our school will be building miners with students. The proceeds from the mining go into at scholarship fund for needy students and non-profit micro loan foundation that our students will administrate and then use to reach out in our local area to needy families.
You have my deep respect.

What you are doing with BitCoin is in so many way, what a real charity is supposed to be about. Building, not just handing out money for the sake of a tax break.

(Note: If people think a BitCoin is worth alot in Dollars, imagine how much it is worth in other nations where the income stream for the average person is well below what people enjoy in their home nation.)

The thing as a Montessorian and this whole affair is the whole inequity and lack of ethical behavior at every turn and it is shocking given the reality that a 6 year old can and will choose right from wrong each and every day given the right environment. At this point supporting BFL is not really productive for anyone but those with a vested interest in getting mining rigs they were promised delivered. Sickening they have waited this long and it is sickening they will continue to wait.
 
Honesty and ethics can be part of any environment... all one has to do is choose to be ethical and honest it is simple as that.
In light of your efforts, your words carry significant weight.

BFL? Well, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it never ceases being a pig. (In my opinion)
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Could have been a bunch of horseshit, but there are dudes on this forum that are trying to do good via BTC.

Bicknellski (I think) helps a Montessouri school in Indonesia.

I recall someone with a signature line about building homes for the homeless, with BTC.

I hope these folks are helped out by the BFL "charity".


LOL! Do more than help. I own the school.

I don't think we need BTC from BFL to keep going but yes there are certainly many charities that could further bitcoin and altcoins in new places.

I was sort of tongue and cheek asking for BFL donations.

Our school will be building miners with students. The proceeds from the mining go into at scholarship fund for needy students and non-profit micro loan foundation that our students will administrate and then use to reach out in our local area to needy families.

The thing as a Montessorian and this whole affair is the whole inequity and lack of ethical behavior at every turn and it is shocking given the reality that a 6 year old can and will choose right from wrong each and every day given the right environment. At this point supporting BFL is not really productive for anyone but those with a vested interest in getting mining rigs they were promised delivered. Sickening they have waited this long and it is sickening they will continue to wait.
 
Honesty and ethics can be part of any environment... all one has to do is choose to be ethical and honest it is simple as that.
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The only one who has come out clean despite all the "donations" and "gift" giving through programming was cklovias. The funny thing is people call him by his name Con, yet his actions are (as observed) nothing but above par in every respect.
Thanks.
Thanks very much for your kind words.

I did indeed receive 50BTC. It was a totally unsolicited and unexpected donation without any notification from BFL, so it took me half a day to figure out where it even came from. It is most welcome and admittedly I do request BTC "donations" in my documentation.

I can be easily convinced to work on code that I don't object to (e.g. I will not support botnet or cpu mining code) for donations but I will not be the spokesperson for anyone else, nor will I try to police a company or person's behaviour. I prefer to stick to code and the technical details only and let others debate the rest.


+1

Respect. It may not be in your nature to police a company or person but at some point one has to take issue with certain behaviors in any community. Sitting idle and being a passive observer can also be damaging to that community. Some times leaders need to stand up and lead. Your actions may do that by sticking to code and tech details but at times it may require you to take a clear stand against predatory people and companies. That is not directed at you but the WHOLE community especially those with technical skills that often shape this community. Personally I would rather deal with those who provide value to the whole community but also demonstrate a strong ethical and honest stance on important matters in the community and that is who I want to work with.
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The only one who has come out clean despite all the "donations" and "gift" giving through programming was cklovias. The funny thing is people call him by his name Con, yet his actions are (as observed) nothing but above par in every respect.
Thanks.
Thanks very much for your kind words.

I did indeed receive 50BTC. It was a totally unsolicited and unexpected donation without any notification from BFL, so it took me half a day to figure out where it even came from. It is most welcome and admittedly I do request BTC "donations" in my documentation.

I can be easily convinced to work on code that I don't object to (e.g. I will not support botnet or cpu mining code) for donations but I will not be the spokesperson for anyone else, nor will I try to police a company or person's behaviour. I prefer to stick to code and the technical details only and let others debate the rest.
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Could have been a bunch of horseshit, but there are dudes on this forum that are trying to do good via BTC.

Bicknellski (I think) helps a Montessouri school in Indonesia.

I recall someone with a signature line about building homes for the homeless, with BTC.

I hope these folks are helped out by the BFL "charity".
legendary
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Well ... I will say I find this thread amusing for a different reason.

It's an argument about what they should do with the 1000BTC - rather than many posts before in other threads about saying they wouldn't do anything Smiley

Personally, I do think it's great that they are giving it away, even if it isn't to those that specific people want it to be given.

Hell I'd say yeah why give any of it to Luke-Jr - I can't stand the guy - he is indeed a low life with an agenda.
But that's their choice ... IMO.

It doesn't matter who they give it to, there will be some who claim there are others more deserving of it.
But as for actually giving it away, there certainly is some amount of it that it has happened with so far, and it is easy to see the amount and where it is going by looking at that address

You may be a great programmer, but you are a terrible human being.

Who knew you could buy people over so easily? One Jally is all that it took to make someone bend. I understand Kano bending to the weight of a jally because he really does only seem to be out to cover his own ass in his own statements. I see it as a mere byproduct that his programming skills are put to good use in the BitCoin Community.

Luke though, as a Christian I can't help but wonder. It took "that little" to make you bend...

Make sure when you both throw stones at each other that it doesn't bounce off your heads and right back at you both.

Very Disappointing.

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The only one who has come out clean despite all the "donations" and "gift" giving through programming was cklovias. The funny thing is people call him by his name Con, yet his actions are (as observed) nothing but above par in every respect.

Kano do me a favor, and never show up in the same thread as cklovias. You'd tarnish his name just by being present. Thanks.
legendary
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Apparently , according to reddit; 50 BTC has gone to Luke-Jr's charity...
I am literally laughing in the background...
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So they'll get the 1000 BTC with the miners that they should be shipping soon, making their customer slaves wait while difficulty continues to increase.  Stay classy BFL
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All this is just noise to me. Bets, Charities, Funds... Who Cares?

Just develop and ship great products on time. Full stop.
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Well ... I will say I find this thread amusing for a different reason.

It's an argument about what they should do with the 1000BTC - rather than many posts before in other threads about saying they wouldn't do anything Smiley

Personally, I do think it's great that they are giving it away, even if it isn't to those that specific people want it to be given.

Hell I'd say yeah why give any of it to Luke-Jr - I can't stand the guy - he is indeed a low life with an agenda.
But that's their choice ... IMO.

It doesn't matter who they give it to, there will be some who claim there are others more deserving of it.
But as for actually giving it away, there certainly is some amount of it that it has happened with so far, and it is easy to see the amount and where it is going by looking at that address
http://blockchain.info/address/1ERVh27gZfPSDaaagL9R3W12xpMJ38ZBA7

Hmm, another 75 now to ...
http://www.bitcoindf.org/project/sean039s-outpost-one-bitcoin-will-feed-40-homeless-people-14
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WTF???
Apparently , according to reddit; 50 BTC has gone to Luke-Jr's charity...

You can see that on their site and the block chain. It didn't go to Like Jrs charity, they paid Lukey for modifynig his software so that their miners will work.

Out of charity money?!

I've seen people do that before, he may well be owed money, but he shouldn't be treated as a charity, nor should he let himself be taken advantage of like that, and that is definitely 100% NOT a charity payment!!!

You're fucking right it's not a chairty payment. That's a salary to lukey.

And luke is laughing all the way to the bank. Lukey should pass that "donation" onto a real charity. But, he knows it's payment for his services so he will keep it.
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Apparently , according to reddit; 50 BTC has gone to Luke-Jr's charity...

You can see that on their site and the block chain. It didn't go to Like Jrs charity, they paid Lukey for modifynig his software so that their miners will work.

Out of charity money?!

I've seen people do that before, he may well be owed money, but he shouldn't be treated as a charity, nor should he let himself be taken advantage of like that, and that is definitely 100% NOT a charity payment!!!

More charity donations imminent to chip manufacturers, board makers and costa rican travel agents.
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Apparently , according to reddit; 50 BTC has gone to Luke-Jr's charity...

You can see that on their site and the block chain. It didn't go to Like Jrs charity, they paid Lukey for modifynig his software so that their miners will work.

Out of charity money?!

I've seen people do that before, he may well be owed money, but he shouldn't be treated as a charity, nor should he let himself be taken advantage of like that, and that is definitely 100% NOT a charity payment!!!
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