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August 17, 2013, 08:39:51 AM

Yeah, you're about as scary as Xian.  I'll get right on it, sparky.



Sparky?

Sparky is the name we reserved for you, remember when you plugged the power supply into the Epic Fail of the first revision of your production boards? Take that Jalapeno motherboard and fill it with ASICs, now plug it in to the power supply.......SPARKY!
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August 17, 2013, 08:39:46 AM


Eichmann = Vesellies  dont they seem to fit liek hand in glove ...hmmmm



If the glove doesn't fit you must acquit.

How about we lay off the Nazi references and just stick to the facts as I have yet to see any crimes against humanity yet in his posts and what has transpired so far. Guy is an ass hat... more over a liar and given the fact his company is all about denying customers proper refunds he is bordering on being criminal, and I bet he will get his day in court.



It had been quiet a while since hitler came up in conversation and they where having another Documentary on Hitler's girfriend/butler/pastry chef  or some other obscuro reference ...so i thought it appropriate to throw Sonny in the ring as well

...(Seemed liek a good idea at the time) ...I think if he does do a "Flash Gordon" in the comming weeks I think there will be his very own personal war crimes tribunal @ the Hague (well maybe Kansas but close enough)   Tongue



 
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August 17, 2013, 08:26:51 AM


Eichmann = Vesellies  dont they seem to fit liek hand in glove ...hmmmm



If the glove doesn't fit you must acquit.

How about we lay off the Nazi references and just stick to the facts as I have yet to see any crimes against humanity yet in his posts and what has transpired so far. Guy is an ass hat... more over a liar and given the fact his company is all about denying customers proper refunds he is bordering on being criminal, and I bet he will get his day in court.

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August 17, 2013, 07:46:08 AM
The guy is a Asshat  Plain and simple ....

Like Hitler the power has gone to his head....

"No you will get you bags soon and this train is NOT going to Auswitchz"

"No you will get your MINER soon and we are NOT going to mine with your equipment "

Like many poor souls on corresponding trains...both BFL customers are heading for a similar fate Sad

I am sure Sonny has a "Final solution" once his probation is up....Argentina may well be both Sonny and the remenants or the Nazi's final location...

Eichmann = Vesellies  dont they seem to fit liek hand in glove ...hmmmm

It all makes sense....lolz
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August 17, 2013, 07:30:09 AM
~The reason there is so much hosility, is because Josh appears to have some wierd superiority complex when it comes to customers.  He ignores totally legitimate questions and instead chooses to insult the asker rather than divulge the truth. He have over $5k of my money and as such, I wanna know what is going on.

All I want is the truth.  But that seems difficult for Josh atm, leaving Jody to cope with all the questions from customers.

It was mainly this fact that put me on this crusade. If he was civil, I wouldn't be here, but Josh dictated the path.
Same here.

Josh creates all sorts of unnecessary assholes. He leaves an indelible impression on the community...when he doesn't even have to.

BFL needs to evaluate his contribution and discharge his ass. Probably deduct from his payments all the ungodly image he has created and centered on them in the community.
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Christian Antkow
August 17, 2013, 07:27:45 AM
All I want is the truth.  But that seems difficult for Josh atm, leaving Jody to cope with all the questions from customers.
It was mainly this fact that put me on this crusade. If he was civil, I wouldn't be here, but Josh dictated the path.

 I'm right there with you. I used to be a happy customer of Butterfly Labs.

 And then Josh Zerlan came along and took a big 'ole dookie on the entire company image and community goodwill they had just managed to salvage after delays on their FPGA launch.

 I feel bad for the troops on the ground at Butterfly Labs who are just trying to do their jobs without having to deal with all this public backlash brought on from their figurehead.

 A sad state of affairs to be sure.
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August 17, 2013, 07:24:01 AM
~The reason there is so much hosility, is because Josh appears to have some wierd superiority complex when it comes to customers.  He ignores totally legitimate questions and instead chooses to insult the asker rather than divulge the truth. He have over $5k of my money and as such, I wanna know what is going on.

All I want is the truth.  But that seems difficult for Josh atm, leaving Jody to cope with all the questions from customers.
It's not difficult, you start typing and it all comes together....

The problem is the truth hounds him, that is where his real torment lays.

You can't say anything when you are truly fucked.

Even their own customers are truly fucked. Everyone knows it, they just live in lala land.
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August 17, 2013, 07:20:20 AM
I wish there wasn't so much hostility on the board between the community and Josh. We might be able to get more information about why things are taking so long without turning the discussion into personal attacks.

BFL has a huge interest in ramping their production up since if they can really clear the queue there's a ton more money to be made. I'm glad the Jalapenos and Little Singles are moving, but the rate of Singles is a bit concerning. Could we get some more info about why the production has been so uneven across the different models please?
You must be new here...
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August 17, 2013, 06:42:04 AM
But honestly, whatever is in the backlog will never make ROI. It is a write-off folks. BFL had their window of opportunity but it has long since closed. Wonder if they are going to come out with Gen2 plans (and perhaps upgrade orders that have been in the queue for over 6 months) or just close up shop.

Someone doesn't understand how bitcoin mining works...


Well sure, if you paid in USD *and* have free energy *and* live a long life. Go for it.

What you and many others fail to understand is that YOUR unit is not the only unit shipping


I can't believe what I just read.  Of course it isn't.  There are many other manufacturers shipping as well, independent of BFL's fucked up timeline.  This is why the earlier YOUR customers receive their order, the better.  I can't believe some of the bullshit you try to sell to people as fact.   Cheesy
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August 17, 2013, 06:04:33 AM
I wish there wasn't so much hostility on the board between the community and Josh. We might be able to get more information about why things are taking so long without turning the discussion into personal attacks.

BFL has a huge interest in ramping their production up since if they can really clear the queue there's a ton more money to be made. I'm glad the Jalapenos and Little Singles are moving, but the rate of Singles is a bit concerning. Could we get some more info about why the production has been so uneven across the different models please?
Why do you think they would have a huge interest???  What possible reason would anyone have in shipping you a product that returns it's cost in 60 days??? If you can answer that question you will understand what's going on.

I have to agree, if they send all current orders in one month, the diffculty would be so huge, unless they lower prices a lot no new customers will buy new units. Seems the waiting game is good for their business
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August 17, 2013, 05:57:02 AM
I have got a feeling that if you look at the video they just released and the the "143" units on the shipping doc are one and the same days/production PR events ...

Me thinks that once again it was all a dog and pony show with smoke and mirrors ...a BFL special

This is definately going down as a Nigerian 149 scam ...just a few more days or TWO WEEKS (trade mark) and the prince (Josh) will be able to release the 100 million to your bank account....

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August 17, 2013, 04:17:33 AM
~The reason there is so much hosility, is because Josh appears to have some wierd superiority complex when it comes to customers.  He ignores totally legitimate questions and instead chooses to insult the asker rather than divulge the truth. He have over $5k of my money and as such, I wanna know what is going on.

All I want is the truth.  But that seems difficult for Josh atm, leaving Jody to cope with all the questions from customers.

It was mainly this fact that put me on this crusade. If he was civil, I wouldn't be here, but Josh dictated the path.

Add to the lie about the FCC certification, and you see why BFL is in the position that they're in.

Back in November, 2012, a bitcoiner kindly asked BFL about the FCC certification and how it's going. Josh kindly replied that BFL should have an answer in two weeks. I've shown that the FCC website had no record of them submitting any devices. I, among others, kindly asked, at first, why that's the case. Josh never answered the question. This has been going on for almost 10 months now.

Josh lied so that more sales would be made at BFL, thus giving him a bigger commision, while all those who ordered due to that lie are FUCKED. And all from a company whose CEO, Sonny Vleisides, came here and stated that he's a new man and turned over a new leaf after his mommy got him an account on some dating service where he met his cousin and had a baby named Indy. Sadly, Yifu stood too close to this man in NYC, for the lies rubs off Sonny onto him.

I can only imagine Josh's sad puppy eyes when Sonny's old Laissez Faire City buddies stop by the plant to talk about old times, while Josh is sitting there unable to converse at their conning level. I'm willing to bet Jeff Ownby gives him a quarter every day to buy a clue.

And, if you think that I'm running outta ammo on these bastards, you're sadly mistaken, just like you're sadly mistaken that if you're at the end of the queue you're going to get your mining rig(s) before the end of the year.

For shits and giggles, somebody get one of them countdown clocks that can be embedded in these posts set to end on September 16, 2013, the day after Sonny Vleisides' probation is scheduled to end due to his felony conviction for fleecing hundreds of millions of dollars from the elderly with his 15 year running lottery scam. Sadly, he was never charged with fleecing hundreds of millions more with his Laissez Faire City and other gambling site scams. Now, he's got people pissed off wanting their money back with his Webspawner.com site, of which now is in Jeff Ownby's name, the VP of BF Labs Inc.

I honestly believe there ain't an honest person at BFL.
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August 17, 2013, 01:47:50 AM
~The reason there is so much hosility, is because Josh appears to have some wierd superiority complex when it comes to customers.  He ignores totally legitimate questions and instead chooses to insult the asker rather than divulge the truth. He have over $5k of my money and as such, I wanna know what is going on.

All I want is the truth.  But that seems difficult for Josh atm, leaving Jody to cope with all the questions from customers.
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August 17, 2013, 01:15:51 AM
I wish there wasn't so much hostility on the board between the community and Josh. We might be able to get more information about why things are taking so long without turning the discussion into personal attacks.

BFL has a huge interest in ramping their production up since if they can really clear the queue there's a ton more money to be made. I'm glad the Jalapenos and Little Singles are moving, but the rate of Singles is a bit concerning. Could we get some more info about why the production has been so uneven across the different models please?
Why do you think they would have a huge interest???  What possible reason would anyone have in shipping you a product that returns it's cost in 60 days??? If you can answer that question you will understand what's going on.
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August 17, 2013, 12:58:10 AM
Nice of Josh to pop in and make a stupid comment YET AGAIN.  I just hope you do that in your lunch break and not when you should be making the miners that we have paid you to make.   

What do you actually do for your company?  I can`t believe PR is your only responsibility.

He is the one who makes sure that BFL has all the parts needed to assemble product.
You know, the guy who didn't realize that Singles needed power supplies, or MOSFETs, or boards to put the chips in.
He got the fans AND boxes though!

don't forget coffee mugs. miners don't work w/out coffee..
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August 17, 2013, 12:52:25 AM
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It's a deeply rewarding environment.

Ain't that right, Josh?
Gaggle, gaggle, gaggle! Yep, Sonny! Gaggle, gaggle...
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August 17, 2013, 12:45:10 AM
quote !!!

"Why work for Butterfly Labs?

There's nothing more rewarding than working on interesting projects. Here at Butterfly Labs, we bring our experience to market for specialty applications in Industry, Education and Government. Each project is unique, well funded and has a real world application. It's a deeply rewarding environment."

http://butterflylabs.com/jobs/
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August 17, 2013, 12:33:24 AM
I wish there wasn't so much hostility on the board between the community and Josh. We might be able to get more information about why things are taking so long without turning the discussion into personal attacks.

BFL has a huge interest in ramping their production up since if they can really clear the queue there's a ton more money to be made. I'm glad the Jalapenos and Little Singles are moving, but the rate of Singles is a bit concerning. Could we get some more info about why the production has been so uneven across the different models please?

lol.

this guy.

you mean, huge interest to keep them afloat while everybody trying to pull their money out?
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August 17, 2013, 12:27:46 AM
Who's deploying then?  The network hashrate seems to be going up in lockstep with the amount of hashrate we are shipping out, give or take a slight deviation.


It's like High School, show your work (math) or you get no credit.



Much like I told Flying Hellfish, once you become an adult, you will realize that reality (and the rest of the world) does not care about you.  Reality is what it is, you can accept it or deny it, but it will still be reality.  Nothing needs to be proven, no work needs to be shown.  You either accept reality or you deny it, the choice is up to you.  Reality doesn't care about you and what you believe, and just like I told Mr. Hellfish, neither do I.  

Ok, reality is what it is. Said that , here is my address to send me some BTC that you made with customer money. After that , in about two weeks, I show you some proof of work.

Thanks,

BTC address :  1BFoz7yRGWDaWVqc9otmZGu5kCS4jXx8m

Yeah, you're about as scary as Xian.  I'll get right on it, sparky.


Bravo!

Further proof that...

That boy ain't right!
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Christian Antkow
August 17, 2013, 12:16:07 AM
I wish there wasn't so much hostility on the board between the community and Josh. We might be able to get more information about why things are taking so long without turning the discussion into personal attacks.

 You must be relatively new here; unaware of the history of Butterfly Labs up until this point...

 I might recommend against going down that rabbit hole entirely.
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