Topic: BFL current state of affairs - page 6. (Read 8171 times)

All methods can get refunds. It will depend on your method of payment as to how you go about getting one.
First step is always ask BFL for a refund. If they have not shipped your product, they are legally obligated to refund your money if you ask for it.
If they refuse, the second step is always to fill a complaint with the FTC so they know BFL is violating the law.
If you paid by BTC or Bank Wire, you can either press forward with the FTC through their claims division, or you can retain a lawyer and go after BFL directly.
If you paid by PayPal you can file a dispute with them (if they close it, call them and tell them you have been scammed). If you paid via CC, you can initiate a charge back if Paypal drags their feet.

Josh, I'm requesting a refund on my Single SC order that you failed to ship within 54 weeks. I paid in bitcoin. Let me know, pal.

Well, I certainly don't want to speak for The Labs if an official spokesman is here.  Josh, would you like to answer this question?

What method of payments cannot get refunds (not counting BTC and Bank Wires)?

Is that right?  That's really good news for a lot of people. 

Would that it were true, a lot of the posts, even in this thread, would not be made.

I cant wait for reality to hit the company soon to be formerly known as BFL. Get the popcorn 

Seems you are just unlucky, Single SC generates too much heat

That's not true. Those that had the forward thinking and due diligence to check with their credit card issuer to determine what payment protection exists an whether they are covered for a sufficient period of time and used that card to pay will be fine.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/butterfly-labs-did-everything-they-could-to-make-getting-a-refund-impossible-272585

ONLY pay for pre-orders on card!

I'm utterly amazed at the network hashrate BFL has shipped. One question: Those fans from BFL, are they hooked up in parallel or in series? Also, when you overclock BFL's fan, does that effect the clock buffers or the moffits(?)?

For those who missed it the first time!

Josh is only here because his rainbow poodle is in heat and Sonny's dick is sore, thus he's seeking a fix, knowing damn well we'll stick it up his ass.

Speaking about being an adult, when are you going to answer the question posed by several of your adult peers?

What's the status of the FCC certification you're on record in stating would be available in two weeks back in November of last year?

Why do you continue to ignore this question each and every time it's been asked (over 100 times now), and not just by me, your favorite nemesis?

That is almost 600GH/s in that picture.

I know some forum members who probably aren't on the same page as you, and I'm sure there are plenty more of these out there.

I just had to repost this 

Good luck getting your refunds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I upgraded an order from a Jalapeno model to a Single SC model, back before the price raise. At the time, I SPECIFICALLY asked whether or not this would affect my place in line for shipping, and BFL told me in no unclear terms that it wouldn't. They lied to me. They are now shipping Jalas to people who ordered in LATE NOVEMBER, while my Single SC order dated late JULY is still far, far from being produced. They were on a contract with a LOT of people who depended on them to ship IN ORDER, which they completely failed to do. Now all the earliest, largest order-holders are watching their expected return dwindle to nothing, all the money they invested is going to people who ordered Jalas months after them.

In short: BFL is a scam. They are basically running an investment LOTTERY... BFL LIED TO ME AND THEY ROBBED ME. They do not respond when I write them asking for a refund. They banned me from their shoutbox.

This is what I see happening during September at BFL: at least one very large order-holder will ask for a refund on the order of six-figures, which they will deny. Then, they will be hit with a lawsuit from a high-powered law firm, and shut down during investigation by the FTC. Their executives will be arrested for investment fraud. The only people who will make any money are those who manage to get a device delivered by the end of August. All others will lose their entire investment in BFL.

BFL has bigger things to worry about than people who can do math adding up the shipped hash rate and realizing that BFL is not shipping much.

BFL got subpoenaed a few days ago by a regulator.
The Kansas AG is investigating BFL.
PayPal is pissed at BFL.
The FTC is investigating BFL.
The KC police department is investigating BFL.
Even Sonny's probation officer is sniffing around his latest investment scam.

Now that pre-orders are drying up, Josh is back trying to milk the last few dollars out of bitcointalk.

Is this Used Care Salesmen still on here pimping Pintos?

Can you read and understand: I REQUESTED A REFUND FOR MY EXPRESS SHIPMENT UPGRADE!

What happened? BFL ignored my express upgrade and shiped with USPS and BFL ignored my refund request! BTW, BFL ignored my Jan 2013 refund request as well. You ask why people constantly bash this company. No wonder when they ignored and defraud their customers and do not deliver what they paid for.

Hey, try BitSynCom (aka FukUNow), you'll be ignored all together.  I personally know of a guy who ordered early in October batch #1 Avalon
and got ignored until May.  Most trade-in customers have been ignored since April. By ignored, I mean no emails, no order ids, no
contact of any kind.  Makes you feel like you are not a customer.

With BFL, at least I got support emails back within a week.  Same goes for bitfury.  

Are they IBM, Microsoft or Cisco in terms of customer support?  Of course not.  
They are a small company.

I don't understand why you people constantly bash this company.  Cancel the order, get a refund if you don't like it.
At least you can do that.  With BitSynCom is like talking to a wall.