My point is ASIC is coming sooner than we think ...
BFL is still trying to get the minirig out the door. If the ASIC was so close to being done it would be a waste of effort building new FPGA systems.
Topic: BFL Labs ASIC release date - no earlier than February 2013 - page 2. (Read 6092 times)
BFL is still trying to get the minirig out the door. If the ASIC was so close to being done it would be a waste of effort building new FPGA systems.
I'd be surprised if BFL really pushed the limits of whatever process they're making the ASICs on. AMD and NVIDIA are generally running on new processes that aren't well characterized, and ignore the DRC that TMSC gives them in order to make their designs smaller and faster. Barring any actual logical errors, they would likely be okay. If they do have logic errors that would require a respin, I can't imagine the company surviving.
They don't have the actual wafer, just a simulation. ASICs are very complicated and sometimes require several re-spins to get right. Even CPU/GPU manufacturers with years of experience end up having to do re-spins on newly released products, such re-spins are called steppings, or require firmware updates to take care of Erratas.
With ASIC it's difficult to fix with firmware update so a re-spin is usually required.
The BFL FPGA only had a custom power phase design from BFL and on the first attempt they didn't get this right (as they said the simulation showed a power consumption of 20w when it turned out to be 80w so power circuitry had to be redesigned)
Right now they are designing an ASIC without prior experience in designing such things (the FPGA chip is off the shelf product so they can't call it their own)
With ASIC it's difficult to fix with firmware update so a re-spin is usually required.
The BFL FPGA only had a custom power phase design from BFL and on the first attempt they didn't get this right (as they said the simulation showed a power consumption of 20w when it turned out to be 80w so power circuitry had to be redesigned)
Right now they are designing an ASIC without prior experience in designing such things (the FPGA chip is off the shelf product so they can't call it their own)
You do realise that a double SHA256 ASIC is dead simple to do compared to AMD GPU or Intel CPU right ?
How do you know they have not been working on this since they released the Singles back in January
My point is ASIC is coming sooner than we think ...
They don't have the actual wafer, just a simulation. ASICs are very complicated and sometimes require several re-spins to get right. Even CPU/GPU manufacturers with years of experience end up having to do re-spins on newly released products, such re-spins are called steppings, or require firmware updates to take care of Erratas.
With ASIC it's difficult to fix with firmware update so a re-spin is usually required.
The BFL FPGA only had a custom power phase design from BFL and on the first attempt they didn't get this right (as they said the simulation showed a power consumption of 20w when it turned out to be 80w so power circuitry had to be redesigned)
Right now they are designing an ASIC without prior experience in designing such things (the FPGA chip is off the shelf product so they can't call it their own)
With ASIC it's difficult to fix with firmware update so a re-spin is usually required.
The BFL FPGA only had a custom power phase design from BFL and on the first attempt they didn't get this right (as they said the simulation showed a power consumption of 20w when it turned out to be 80w so power circuitry had to be redesigned)
Right now they are designing an ASIC without prior experience in designing such things (the FPGA chip is off the shelf product so they can't call it their own)
I don't understand.
Maybe you are trolling.
On website is says October.
Even with delays I will expect them to ship before Dec / just when reward halvs so
Maybe you are trolling.
On website is says October.
Even with delays I will expect them to ship before Dec / just when reward halvs so
Hi guys, I basically had a prophetic dream vision last night, that the BFL Labs ASIC won't be shipped until February 2013 at best.
So it wasn't one of the more expensive "actual" prophetic visions? Hi guys, I basically had a prophetic dream vision last night, that the BFL Labs ASIC won't be shipped until February 2013 at best.
I don't even want them to ship, they're gonna ruin Bitcoins. I spent ~2000$ on quad 7970's, only the cards, and they're planning to release a "coffee warmer" 3ghs+ ASIC that does more than my cards for 150$? Eff that, difficulty will skyrocket and put a strain on video card miners.
GPUs will still always be better for warming my house though?
Hi guys, I basically had a prophetic dream vision last night, that the BFL Labs ASIC won't be shipped until February 2013 at best.
Most people dream about fast cars or hot chicks --- anyway I think your dream is wrong more like June 2013 before they ship
Hi guys, I basically had a prophetic dream vision last night, that the BFL Labs ASIC won't be shipped until February 2013 at best.
Most people dream about fast cars or hot chicks --- anyway I think your dream is wrong more like June 2013 before they ship 
If KyleH and Unacceptable had been around long enough they would know that we are just playing. Looks like they have no idea about the drama that surrounds BFL.
So KyleH, how many BFL products do you have? How many GPUs do you have?
Unacceptable, you can continue your real life work. Better not come here anymore 'cause this forum is soooo lame.
So KyleH, how many BFL products do you have? How many GPUs do you have?
Unacceptable, you can continue your real life work. Better not come here anymore 'cause this forum is soooo lame.
Your funny little man
It's not the forum thats lame,it's folks like yourself that are................ whining & crying
I've been here since last june,2 gh/s mining with one BFL single recently added,so there na na na naaaaa na
If KyleH and Unacceptable had been around long enough they would know that we are just playing. Looks like they have no idea about the drama that surrounds BFL.
So KyleH, how many BFL products do you have? How many GPUs do you have?
Unacceptable, you can continue your real life work. Better not come here anymore 'cause this forum is soooo lame.
So KyleH, how many BFL products do you have? How many GPUs do you have?
Unacceptable, you can continue your real life work. Better not come here anymore 'cause this forum is soooo lame.
Hi guys, I basically had a prophetic dream vision last night, that the BFL Labs ASIC won't be shipped until February 2013 at best.
I don't even want them to ship, they're gonna ruin Bitcoins. I spent ~2000$ on quad 7970's, only the cards, and they're planning to release a "coffee warmer" 3ghs+ ASIC that does more than my cards for 150$? Eff that, difficulty will skyrocket and put a strain on video card miners.
No, it won't ruin "Bitcoins"
It will ruin your fail investment, only that. And you deserve that.
Bitcoin will only gain from ASICs
+1
GPUs can and will be reused for something else. If people are selling their GPUs to get FPGAs, then it's a good time to get some cheap GPUs and keep them until the reward halves, or the ASICs are out (not this year I guess), or it's not profitable any longer to run them. Buying and selling (probably) at the same price is a win/win deal in ROI terms.
You guys sound more like 12 year old girls on their period. Give me a fucking break. If you don't like them then don't buy their shit. YOU people are the ones trolling, get out of your parents basement and do something for your own miserable existence rather than shit on and try to tear down people who are actually making progress with their own goals and ambitions in life. If you could sit in my seat and read this miserable shit you write maybe you would see how pathetically lame you really are.
+1
I thought this was a mature community,I guess not.
I work with recovering drug addicts & alcoholics.They can piss & moan like little kids to get thier way(a reason to drink or drug).
But alot you folks make them look like angels..........
I don't agree with the way BFL handles thier shipping times(or the failed troll in Enterpoints thread),but thier FPGA's CANNOT be beat for ROI.I hope they come out soon with the ASIC's,at least I can trade my FPGA's in for them
Will ANY other FPGA seller offer to buy back thier equipment
?Flame on whiners.....................................................
You guys sound more like 12 year old girls on their period. Give me a fucking break. If you don't like them then don't buy their shit. YOU people are the ones trolling, get out of your parents basement and do something for your own miserable existence rather than shit on and try to tear down people who are actually making progress with their own goals and ambitions in life. If you could sit in my seat and read this miserable shit you write maybe you would see how pathetically lame you really are.
Hi guys, Im a billionaire investor (like richard branson only richer and hung better).
I decided to pre order 666 ASICS so I hopped in my personal jet and flew over to meet them all in person.
Their factory is amazing, their products look great.
yes they make their own chips, Sonny uses his powers of ESP to manipulate the atoms into place. The only thing second hand is the atoms
I just thought Id let you all know this so you can rest easy knowing that an internet person has said its legit.
Ask me anything so I can reassure you about BFL.
Thats my word as an Internet billionaire and someone who has personal flown to BFL labs and invested heavily.
If I can trust them with 666*25k you can trust them with anything.
I decided to pre order 666 ASICS so I hopped in my personal jet and flew over to meet them all in person.
Their factory is amazing, their products look great.
yes they make their own chips, Sonny uses his powers of ESP to manipulate the atoms into place. The only thing second hand is the atoms
I just thought Id let you all know this so you can rest easy knowing that an internet person has said its legit.
Ask me anything so I can reassure you about BFL.
Thats my word as an Internet billionaire and someone who has personal flown to BFL labs and invested heavily.
If I can trust them with 666*25k you can trust them with anything.
I just got a call from BFL. They said that the whole ASIC is pure BS. ****y said that whole announcement was to scare competitors and get all the money from miners. I also asked whether they are going to run with the money or someday develop an ASIC. Didn't get a proper answer. Something about Tahiti.. maybe he meant 7970s?
I can confirm that. I just got off the phone with them and got a similar response....
It's already "ruining" bitcoin. Notice the large influx of sales of 5970 in the Computer Hardware forum recently? Miners are dumping their video cards for BFL Singles which they hope to eventually convert to ASIC I bet.
Singles have always gone for high prices, even before the trade it was announced. Also, 5970s are getting upwards of 2 years old, and they're still selling for $350. Why are they selling for so much? Because people are still going to mine on them.
Think BFL won't be able to deliver this year? Bet no in the betsofbitco.in statement in my sig.
It's already "ruining" bitcoin. Notice the large influx of sales of 5970 in the Computer Hardware forum recently? Miners are dumping their video cards for BFL Singles which they hope to eventually convert to ASIC I bet.
Hi guys, I basically had a prophetic dream vision last night, that the BFL Labs ASIC won't be shipped until February 2013 at best.
I don't even want them to ship, they're gonna ruin Bitcoins. I spent ~2000$ on quad 7970's, only the cards, and they're planning to release a "coffee warmer" 3ghs+ ASIC that does more than my cards for 150$? Eff that, difficulty will skyrocket and put a strain on video card miners.
No, it won't ruin "Bitcoins"
It will ruin your fail investment, only that. And you deserve that.
Bitcoin will only gain from ASICs
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