Topic: BFL rewarding Jalapeno orders at the expense of LS/S/MR orders - page 2. (Read 4348 times)

Pick whatever item you want then. Call the Jalpeno the "singing fish" if Amazon only has singing fish in stock, does that mean they can't ship singing fish until they get some other, higher value, product that is backordered back in stock?

The point is, they don't have your hardware in stock. I agree that if they were in stock, they should ship them. But they're not in stock, so it's a moot issue.

The minute the higher-density options become available, they should definitely take precedence over later orders for other products, but in the mean time, reality is here, and it says that the higher density options aren't available yet, so they're only shipping what's available.

This isn't "taking advantage" of anybody. It's dealing with the reality that development is only complete on the least complex product that they have in their lineup. They'd be stupid to ignore orders that they have the capability of fulfilling TODAY.

IF they actually had crap to sell on the shelf? That would be more than fair... that be N O R M A L.

I'll run with your analogy eve though it's flawed.

I'm not saying stop shipping. I'm saying when the back ordered items become available. Someone that ordered the same item that bubba ordered 2 months ago should not be shipped their order till bubba and everyone else between bubba and dingdons orders is shipped.

Love the comparison between a novelty item, and something that 99% of people purchased as a investment. Have anymore apples you want to compare to oranges?(BTW, mostly rhetorical as it's close to the end of the week and it's unlikely I'll have time to piss away on nonsense) ...Shit that's even a horrible comparison.

I think the point is that they should be asking LS/S/MR if they would take 5GHs miners as an alternative.  I don't think a single person who ordered an LS/S/MR would have expected that all they wouldn't all be produced at the same time.

My guess is that they would get pretty good uptake and probably even upsells of 7GHs (if offered).

I am strangely optimistic that Metabank will be able to produce their miner as they only have to worry about a single configuration that goes like stink.

*Sigh* so once again, if some redneck in Arkansas orders a singing fish off Amazon, and they're currently backordered, does Amazon halt shipping on all orders, until Bubba's singin' fish comes back in stock? You know, so that it's "fair"?

What delusional world do some one you people live in. You pay for your crap first, you should get you crap first. It shouldn't be handled any other way. You can't make it any fairer.

Im sorry, I stopped reading at that IGNORANT comment as you obviously do not know what you are talking about. FYI, for the people that need it spelled out. I'm referring to black bold text.

Look at that! Somebody with some common sense! 

 What is community consensus on those ? Are they legit ? Have not followed the entire thread for lack of time Very attractive @ $3.8k for 175GH/s if they can deliver.

I predicted this situation last year, where BFL customers who are still waiting and looking at others receiving their orders are going to turn on the early receivers and declare it's not fair.  This was always predictable.  BFL was not and cannot be in a position to ship everyone's orders at once.  So the 5Gh units are ready first.  Well, so be it.  Ship what's ready instead of annoying an even larger pool of customers. 

Imagine if BFL declared they're delaying shipment of all 5Gh units a few months so that all product lines can be ready at the same time.  There would be a riot.

By the way, I checked your claim, at 5Gh/s you are only making...15cents per day @ 1.9 Billion difficulty.

Obviously...I call BS.

That is not even including the PC that runs the hardware. You may need to redo your calculations.

http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/3055-bfl-breaking-paypals-user-agreement.html

Checkout the response by Josh.

It appears that BFL may have deleted a thread that read "Tick Tock...." relating to the large difficulty rise in the last few hours. This was with only a hundred (or two) Jallys coming online.

At 1.9 Billion, what is your profitability index?

Personally, I have an interest in getting deliveries for Jalapenos, SC Singles and Batch 3 Avalon.
I feel like I have gone through the "5 stages of pre order"
1. Denial (Im sure they are on track)
2. Anger. (A 2 month delay - NO WAY!  )
3. Bargaining ( I'll add a few more product orders. Maybe add 2GH, Maybe add Express Shipping)
4. Depression. No updates from Avalon. Hello?
5. Acceptance. BTC are gone. If I get a knock on the door from the postman, who knows?

I dont really want to start the cycle again with KNC, but all the best to them.

you might want to grab a refund and go buy a kncminer Saturn

175 Gh for $3800

Please tell us what is going on here oh mighty rustytrombone

..but who are you to label someone or something greed or greedy?  It is a basic request for a company to honor their original plans.  For someone like me that has a little single and a couple of Jalapenos on order, I could have kept a big order of all Jalapenos if I would have known they were shipping sooner and had their own power bricks now.  IF they get to me a month earlier I could have a couple of thousand more than I would have had.  It's pretty simple, and certainly not greed.  If you think it is greed that means this amount of money is excess for you and beyond what you need to live comfortably.  For me, this money is about paying for my first child (due in September).. about being able to pay off debt from Dr bills after being diagnosed with MS last year (Specialist visits, hospital stays, MRI after MRI, infusions, etc., from bills for a dead dog... for bills when the sewage backed up into my home from a busted pipe under my lawn.. from the engine replacement that cost me about 5K.  Having excess?  Not quite.  Try "getting back to having a savings account where I was last year at this time". 

But to be honest, these people who are not getting their first week Singles are seeing hundreds of Jalapenos ready to be shipped out in a picture today.  That just doesn't sit well with most people who made a "investment" that was delayed MULTIPLE times.  Everyone is on edge.  And this is not like a regular product.  I've said this time after time, but the more hashing power on the network and the more time passes, the less people make.  So for people who ordered say 3 singles (180 GH/s).. might be ok with receiving 90 jalapenos.  Anything to get that hashing power, and if they got it one month early, it could mean the difference of 20K just this month alone.  That's no chump change, and for a person that made a ~$4000 high risk investment, would be nice if they received their shipments in the same order as everyone who ordered.

As Paladin69 said though.. they have only shipped out first month orders.  I think the complaining is going to get worse, and more justified if several months of preorders are going out for Jalapenos and LS, SC orders are still not shipping.  I've said it before and will say it again, only time will tell.  I hope it is kind for all of us.

You guys really don't see what's going on here?  Greed is seriously blinding. 

They are still shipping 1st month jalapeno orders.  If they start shipping 2nd and 3rd month jalapeno's before 1st month MR's & Singles, then it is time to start getting ticked.

Problem solved.

So again the point here really is those waiting on the LS/S/MR are not being put out by the Jala being shipped. They don't have the LS/S or MR built.