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Topic: BFL starts taking pre-orders for 1TH Imperial Monarch Miners - page 2. (Read 5302 times)

hero member
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Stand in solidarity with the hundreds of customers that got scammed like Martin Meissner who is still looking to recover $62,000 from BFL. Do not pre-order BFL products like this vaporware the Imperial Monarch or use their cloud mining operations.

Butterfly Labs lost a civil case by default in Kansas’ Johnson County Court in late November 2013. The plaintiff, a Californian named William Lolli, won a judgement of over $13,000 but told Ars that he had not yet collected the award.

These cases are still going on all the while BFL is spamming the trust system to gain more customers?

TAKE A STAND AGAINST BFL'S SPAM
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
They plan on using a single 120mm rad to dissipate 650W? hah

At wall consumption. But still that's a lot of heat to dissipate, even for a thick push/pull 120 mill rad. I still think its possible, noise will definitely be a factor.

similar discussion about the hashfast units. But its been shown that the corsair H80i can handle at least 250W of heat in the babyjet boards and supposedly will be able to handle up to 750W in the yolievo boards

AFAIK, the most heat you would see from a high-end overclocked CPU is 400-550W, so im pretty interested to se how such a small liquid cooling solution handles at >600W
copper member
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Clueless!
Just leaving this here.....

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/1-th-bitcoin-miner.html

performance of plus or minus 20%

Get your 801Gh miners here!!

man so much for consumer protection rules in the USA I'd be better off taking plane ride to Europe
ordering stuff from asic miners ....have someone then forward it to the states..cause their consumer protection is better
overseas it seems...the only refunds in middle / late 2013 by BFL I heard about went to Europe due to their protections
they told the rest of us to lump it

USA it screw you sucker ....stay away from info commercials...

so the only thing that is constant is Josh is richer now by probably 3x then when i ordered my 'phantom' April GH hash from BFL

er that was April 2013 for anyone knew on here and wondering how that dates could be so far off in this thread...er they ain't

Searing



hero member
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I suggest without payment receipt and proof of an order number in an order queue I doubt that is a real person ordering. There are so many faux accounts on the forums at BFL I bet that fake accounts out number the real ones that are active. The customers they trap tend to have a 1 time horrible experience and learn from it. If you see people buying a 2nd or 3rd time they are being paid off more often than not. See BCP as an example. He was such a great customer he bought a 300 gh/s "on sale". He knew they wouldn't deliver or he'd have bet the farm the way he backs BFL.

Sad to say but anything on the BFL forums is pretty much a single voice and has little to do with what real customers want or expect in this market. Antminer if you want something now. Spondoolies if you want to wait a little more. One Strings from Ben are shipping now so those are few options. Not 14 months and still no 28nm chip... you can't reasonably believe that BFL is going to ship these things at all do you?
Hey, it's the renegger again!  How's that FRC treating ya? I see it's down to $.011 cents now, hows that $7000 bath feel?  So sad you crowed over your great investment (when you were supposed to buy $2800 of BTC but reneged and bought $160 of FRC), but now it's in the toilet.  Kinda like your WASP project... 4 months overdue and by the time you produce a working model the cost to build the board for outdated chips will exceede the possibility of ROI.  Puts you smack dab into BFL territory!  Since this will be your third failure, you're definitely in the mix!
hero member
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I suggest without payment receipt and proof of an order number in an order queue I doubt that is a real person ordering. There are so many faux accounts on the forums at BFL I bet that fake accounts out number the real ones that are active. The customers they trap tend to have a 1 time horrible experience and learn from it. If you see people buying a 2nd or 3rd time they are being paid off more often than not. See BCP as an example. He was such a great customer he bought a 300 gh/s "on sale". He knew they wouldn't deliver or he'd have bet the farm the way he backs BFL.

Sad to say but anything on the BFL forums is pretty much a single voice and has little to do with what real customers want or expect in this market. Antminer if you want something now. Spondoolies if you want to wait a little more. One Strings from Ben are shipping now so those are few options. Not 14 months and still no 28nm chip... you can't reasonably believe that BFL is going to ship these things at all do you?
legendary
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Lol for 744$ you could buy almost 2 Antminer instant, with ~400Gh/s (the upgrade amount)

Who throw good money in the same hole and dosn't learn? The world is full of idiots, and i am in the wrong business.

A lot of people. Often called "chasing a loss"

http://www.gamblingresearch.org/synopses/details.php?id=86
sr. member
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you guys wanna laugh hard? I mean REAL hard??

look at this BFL forum and see all the idiots who are upgrading their 8 months old Monarch orders to this "Imperial" monarch by paying $744 !!

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/monarch-discussion/8075-2014-mar-4-monarch-discussion-30.html

I really do have sympathy for new miners who get caught by BFL..
but for an idiot whose been promised a 3 month wait, then waits 8 months only to buy more!?
wtf is wrong with people
Lol for 744$ you could buy almost 2 Antminer instant, with ~400Gh/s (the upgrade amount)

Who throw good money in the same hole and dosn't learn? The world is full of idiots, and i am in the wrong business.
newbie
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you guys wanna laugh hard? I mean REAL hard??

look at this BFL forum and see all the idiots who are upgrading their 8 months old Monarch orders to this "Imperial" monarch by paying $744 !!

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/monarch-discussion/8075-2014-mar-4-monarch-discussion-30.html

I really do have sympathy for new miners who get caught by BFL..
but for an idiot whose been promised a 3 month wait, then waits 8 months only to buy more!?
wtf is wrong with people
sr. member
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Good luck getting them THIS year. Will not trust them again after only getting my single ONE YEAR later.
legendary
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newbie
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legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Here's the LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shipping Schedule
This is a Pre-Order product which is not yet shipping.  If you're uncomfortable waiting until the development is complete and the product is shipped, do NOT pre-order this product. Perhaps undesirable, but this is a pre-order market.  Customers flatly demand to get in line for the new technology before it's finished development.  This has created a lot of drama for the manufacturers but it's something we simply have to deal with.  All manufacturers in this space have experienced some degree of delay with their first generation ASIC.  Every last one of them, so we're reluctant to give a specific delivery date.  However, this is our second generation, so we have much greater clarity on the process and plan to begin shipments in March 2014.  Orders are shipped in order date priority so any order placed now should be expected to be delivered in June.

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/1-th-bitcoin-miner.html

WOW talk about Lying to your FACE, NO Shame!





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsW9MlYu31g


Dude, like I said, if you're going to bring on the funny, at least supply the most appropriate video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE At :38 is classic!
newbie
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hero member
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Here's the LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shipping Schedule
This is a Pre-Order product which is not yet shipping.  If you're uncomfortable waiting until the development is complete and the product is shipped, do NOT pre-order this product. Perhaps undesirable, but this is a pre-order market.  Customers flatly demand to get in line for the new technology before it's finished development.  This has created a lot of drama for the manufacturers but it's something we simply have to deal with.  All manufacturers in this space have experienced some degree of delay with their first generation ASIC.  Every last one of them, so we're reluctant to give a specific delivery date.  However, this is our second generation, so we have much greater clarity on the process and plan to begin shipments in March 2014.  Orders are shipped in order date priority so any order placed now should be expected to be delivered in June.

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/1-th-bitcoin-miner.html

WOW talk about Lying to your FACE, NO Shame!





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsW9MlYu31g
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending

By the time you get your unit, if you ever do..... it will mine about the same btc as you would with an toaster oven hooked up to the network.

Good idea,
I have a toaster you can buy. It's a 54th generation toaster, so I know very well how this thing works  Wink
This is the hottest toaster in the world. Once sold for 500BTC, now on sale for just 200BTC

I also host your pre-toasted bread for just 5BTC per month.


Edit after 5 Month:
Ok, I got informed that this toaster doesn't have any network connection, therefor you get now a discount of 0.1mBTC

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

If you're goin' to bring on the funny, at least add a pic (or two, or three, or...).



All your hosted toasters can be remotely overclocked (note the clock).
Security is not an issue at our hosting facility (note the cameras).
Anything hashed can immediately be obfuscated (note the not one, but two mixers).

Before some smart-ass inquires about cooling all them toasters...



At TMF (Toaster Mining Facility), we were the first to introduce internal cameras to view the innards of each and every Toaster Miner, making sure 24/7 that maximum hashing is achieved.



Speaking of 24/7, a myriad backup generators stand at ready in case of the proverbial struck by lighting event.



Unlike other hosting firms, TMF does not farm out its support center to some Third World Country, but is Red-manned right here in the US of A.



Of course, TMF is not just a hosting facility for your precious miners. Far from it. We also build custom Toaster Miners, hence recently acquiring the state-of-the art overflow oven off eBay.



The next time you're in town, please stop by TMF, whereupon our well-trained flock would be happy to give you the grand tour.

legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Wow, BFL managed to invent the Time machine before the mining chips..







they will go back in time to ship your product, so don't worry, BFL got it all figured out.

Almost finished penning a funny in re. time machine related.
member
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Wait a minute, Josh. Ah... Are you telling me that you built a time machine... out of a DeLorean?
legendary
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things you own end up owning you
Wow, BFL managed to invent the Time machine before the mining chips..







they will go back in time to ship your product, so don't worry, BFL got it all figured out.
sr. member
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I've got to admit that miner looks real and i love to be able to use it in PC like a GPU

How would you use it like a gpu? Unless your video games run exclusively on sha256 hash have fun pal.

I'm talking about all the fun tinkering with your everyday pc equipment.
With an asic machine you are as if buying a dell PC.
I'm PC modding enthusiast, i think i like it more than gaming itself.
So with this form I can mine and have fun building a PC at the same time.

That's kind of expensive fun, man.

Especially if most people have to wait a year plus for that fun.

Thank god for BitcoinTalk...
sr. member
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Oh sign me up hurry!! F  BFL!
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