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WALLET 1172 missing Proposal Add Button
Rob: i made proposal,but no added, reason? 2500 left

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http://www.biblepay.org appears down right now

edit: also linux ppa currently only updated to 1.1.5.9
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For people who may not know much about Compassion International, check out this list of music artists that support Compassion's mission ...

https://www.compassion.com/more-music-artists.htm



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Hi Dave,

Thanks for the info - Ill delete the spam prayer.

On the unlock issue can you tell us how many threads you are running in the miner and what OS that particular wallet is?

Thanks

Thanks Rob. The problem occurs in my Windows 10 Pro wallet (x64), currently version 71 (but not limited to that version). The config looks like this:
Code:
shrinkdebug=1
gen=1
genproclimit=4
minersleep=1000
#utxooverride=1463000
#privatesendamount=20000
#testnet=1
pool=https://pool.purepool.org
workerid=B6fo71xAUr2gy2EBxVV69kUDxj7CH6CUXt/pc
#pool=https://pool.biblepay.org
#workerid=dave_pc

Maybe it's better to run it with proc 1? I am just running proclimit 4 to distribute the work load more evenly over my CPU. Wink

Hi Dave,


Thanks, I entered a github issue.  Ill take a look at this very soon as I know its a high priority.  If we cant find the exact root cause, Ill give you logging that should reveal the issue.

https://github.com/biblepay/biblepay/issues/62

We have a large merge going on right now, so things are a little busy on the IT side.

PS:  On the thread count, you should be OK with any number of threads as it unlocks on thread 0 (but it is good for me to know however for debugging).
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I think discussions of other coins should be kept in either their threads, or in PM's Smiley

Please keep this topic for things BBP related.
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Hi Dave,

Thanks for the info - Ill delete the spam prayer.

On the unlock issue can you tell us how many threads you are running in the miner and what OS that particular wallet is?

Thanks

Thanks Rob. The problem occurs in my Windows 10 Pro wallet (x64), currently version 71 (but not limited to that version). The config looks like this:
Code:
shrinkdebug=1
gen=1
genproclimit=4
minersleep=1000
#utxooverride=1463000
#privatesendamount=20000
#testnet=1
pool=https://pool.purepool.org
workerid=B6fo71xAUr2gy2EBxVV69kUDxj7CH6CUXt/pc
#pool=https://pool.biblepay.org
#workerid=dave_pc

Maybe it's better to run it with proc 1? I am just running proclimit 4 to distribute the work load more evenly over my CPU. Wink
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Hello all, I hope you had a wonderful blessed Christmas.

Here's a screenshot of my windows wallet showing 2 problems at once:



1. Spam-"prayer" with some stupid earning link.
2. Wallet still keeps on randomly unlocking itself (probably related to the PODC updates). This has been an issue (at least for me) for several versions now. I remember posting about this maybe in October. Does anyone else experience this?
The only solution I have for this is to manually lock it from time to time.

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the info - Ill delete the spam prayer.

On the unlock issue can you tell us how many threads you are running in the miner and what OS that particular wallet is?

Thanks
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Hello all, I hope you had a wonderful blessed Christmas.

Here's a screenshot of my windows wallet showing 2 problems at once:



1. Spam-"prayer" with some stupid earning link.
2. Wallet still keeps on randomly unlocking itself (probably related to the PODC updates). This has been an issue (at least for me) for several versions now. I remember posting about this maybe in October. Does anyone else experience this?
The only solution I have for this is to manually lock it from time to time.
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please dont make some upgrades over xmas like last year Smiley it was neverending compiling and deploying marathon Smiley

In worst case just switch over CPU power to another coin and keep MN running only :-) thats my emergency plan.

Which coins do you mine?
Are there any profitable CPU-only coins these days ?

BLE + UPX. They are just preparing exchange listing right now in next months. Looks as a good potential. BBP is not only one and ppl dont have problem to switch it off if they will see there is no more profit potential. I wrote IF. And if you have GPU in your config there is gpu miner for upx already or you can use nicehash miner for mining. So with one PC I have BBP by cpu, BLE by cpu (this is low power, with minimal cpu consumption), UPX by cpu, UPX or Nicehash miner by gpu.
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please dont make some upgrades over xmas like last year Smiley it was neverending compiling and deploying marathon Smiley

In worst case just switch over CPU power to another coin and keep MN running only :-) thats my emergency plan.

Which coins do you mine?
Are there any profitable CPU-only coins these days ?

Check out CPU Miners Club, they track CPU Coins

Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/cc4jCB6
Telegram: https://t.me/CPUtalk
CPU Coin Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pkp8tfUK70Fs-HsdKL9PJpEcpcYhnMO0cKylyV8QVt0/edit#gid=0
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please dont make some upgrades over xmas like last year Smiley it was neverending compiling and deploying marathon Smiley

In worst case just switch over CPU power to another coin and keep MN running only :-) thats my emergency plan.

Which coins do you mine?
Are there any profitable CPU-only coins these days ?
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Merry Christmas to all!

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"We're so grateful for your partnership! God bless you all! -Susan"
https://twitter.com/compassion/status/1077331375286571008
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Hey Rob, Were you able to get an End of Year Statement from Compassion?
Id love to get it posted in our Bitcointalk Investigation thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5030640

I have a report from Compassion, they did give us an up to month (sort of in the end-of-year format) but the woman said something like
Dont bother us again - we wont do it for you again - but I thought, wait a minute, the web site is broken because we have too many childrens records in it,  
so we have a right to ask again LOL, but Ill talk about this more later.  Ill also provide the link for this report.

EDIT: Is this it?
http://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Expenses/BiblePay_audit_2018.pdf

Darn, its kind of hard for me to understand it, hmmm

Other References:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=284.msg4569#msg4569

Yeah, this is the one they gave me, http://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Expenses/BiblePay_audit_2018.pdf, in response to the audit questions.  And the ciqueue service rep said something like "and don't ask for one again as we will not provide you one again" and I thought, hmm thats not right, because we can't even click on our history right now from the web (we have too many records for their server to handle).  So Ill push to ask for one every year.  Anyway, it looks like a good resource, so please use it.

EDIT:  We can also explain to Theymos that it matches our exec theymos to the penny also.

I tried to copy the data from the PDF but I get symbols,
I tried to use a program to extract the data tables to excel but also get symbols hmmm,
Is there an excel file this PDF is based upon?

Anyways, I went through manually and picked out and summed the Payments,
Does this look correct?



=

Just refreshing everyone, my goal is to get us Bitcointalk Forum advertising, this was Theymos's last response to us (he is head Forum admin of Bitcointalk):
Quote from: theymos
I'd probably only be comfortable with BiblePay if a lot more info, news, and third-party reviews of your practices come out.
As-is, I'm not particularly convinced by your responses to my previous concerns (though admittedly I don't have time to spend more than a few minutes looking at it),
and I see a lot of red flags. If I was convinced that BiblePay was like "Litecoin with a bible theme and a donation thing", then I'd probably allow it.
Reference: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47033776

=

UPDATE: I went ahead and tweeted at CEO Jim and other high up Compassion people, hope it helps!
https://twitter.com/BiblePay/status/1076580683940798464

UPDATE 2: Jim Liked our Tweet!




Yeah, this PDF has to be one of the most convoluted formats I've seen - so it was in unicode, so I ended up converting it to ASCII and saving it and importing into excel but the columns were staggered (every other page had an extra column) then each other page had 1 less column, actually some were random, so anyway I ended up writing a program to import this thing into excel, so now we have the data here:

http://pool.biblepay.org/san/expenses/Compassion2018Audit.xlsx

However looking at it is really strange in that some of the months seem doubled.  When I said it matched to the penny, I was referring to the grand total credit memo matching what we show as of the same date (IE we paid 143,901 in 2018 up to that time, we received a 25,404 credit and now have a 17,606 balance matching ours) however the individual detail rows gyrate up and down in the sheet's details (sometimes double) - you can clearly see we didnt have 650 orphans per month between February and August (which is what the charges allude to, if you divide the 241,131 charges by 10 months and $38 per month, we would have had 625+ orphans), but anyway, I did add rows I-L with the summary per month from Compassion and sum per month from BiblePay to try to reconcile. 

I'll let you take a look at the totals now to see if you catch my drift- you can pull the expense and revenue records from pool.biblepay.org accountability to see they match the figs I pasted in I-L.

For now I am just guessing that the person creating the audit found some inaccuracies in their data and had to enter journal entries to match our data (as I sent her our data to ask her if we would get a credit for the N canceling children so she knew up front what we had) and this probably resulted in 2* the journal entries on their side (doubling the charges) and then 2* the payments, etc.

Anyway the good news is if you look at row 14-15 in the summary we are still within a dollar.

I have to check out but let me know if there is something else I can do with this tomorrow.

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Hey Rob, Were you able to get an End of Year Statement from Compassion?
Id love to get it posted in our Bitcointalk Investigation thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5030640

I have a report from Compassion, they did give us an up to month (sort of in the end-of-year format) but the woman said something like
Dont bother us again - we wont do it for you again - but I thought, wait a minute, the web site is broken because we have too many childrens records in it,  
so we have a right to ask again LOL, but Ill talk about this more later.  Ill also provide the link for this report.

EDIT: Is this it?
http://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Expenses/BiblePay_audit_2018.pdf

Darn, its kind of hard for me to understand it, hmmm

Other References:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=284.msg4569#msg4569

Yeah, this is the one they gave me, http://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Expenses/BiblePay_audit_2018.pdf, in response to the audit questions.  And the ciqueue service rep said something like "and don't ask for one again as we will not provide you one again" and I thought, hmm thats not right, because we can't even click on our history right now from the web (we have too many records for their server to handle).  So Ill push to ask for one every year.  Anyway, it looks like a good resource, so please use it.

EDIT:  We can also explain to Theymos that it matches our exec theymos to the penny also.

I tried to copy the data from the PDF but I get symbols,
I tried to use a program to extract the data tables to excel but also get symbols hmmm,
Is there an excel file this PDF is based upon?

Anyways, I went through manually and picked out and summed the Payments,
Does this look correct?



=

Just refreshing everyone, my goal is to get us Bitcointalk Forum advertising, this was Theymos's last response to us (he is head Forum admin of Bitcointalk):
Quote from: theymos
I'd probably only be comfortable with BiblePay if a lot more info, news, and third-party reviews of your practices come out.
As-is, I'm not particularly convinced by your responses to my previous concerns (though admittedly I don't have time to spend more than a few minutes looking at it),
and I see a lot of red flags. If I was convinced that BiblePay was like "Litecoin with a bible theme and a donation thing", then I'd probably allow it.
Reference: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47033776

=

UPDATE: I went ahead and tweeted at CEO Jim and other high up Compassion people, hope it helps!
https://twitter.com/BiblePay/status/1076580683940798464

UPDATE 2: Jim Liked our Tweet!

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TRIPLE DIPPING with BYTEBALL ended: 10x times less rewards from 24th .... the best time to jump into POG  hooooray

BYTEBALL bye bye

Where did you see that BYTEBALL dipping ended ?

Bottom right "CHAT" button of of the Byteball Wallet in the "WCG distribution" section:

Quote
Dear WCG cruncher,

First of all we want to wish you Happy Holidays with your friends and family!

Last time we wrote you about diminishing returns for more than 40 connected devices. This measure alone has proven to be ineffective. Unfortunately we are going to have to change the rules a second time.

Again, WCG rewards are meant for new users to be able to discover Byteball by donating some spare CPU power to a good cause, not to make money.

For now we are going to reduce the reward to $1 per 1,000,000 WCG points earned, effective from Monday December 24 on. This way the method will still work like a faucet but it will be much harder to make a profit, which was never intended. We’ll monitor what this change does and make further changes when necessary.

Happy crunching Smiley

The Byteball Team


So if we are the only coin that can be profitable with BOINC why do we need to stop BOINC now ?

Got a good point there. The cost of 1 BBP earned via PODC just got way higher. The expected impact on market price is upwards (unless there are people in the interim so desperate to pay some bills before they go out of professional crunching business).
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TRIPLE DIPPING with BYTEBALL ended: 10x times less rewards from 24th .... the best time to jump into POG  hooooray

BYTEBALL bye bye

Where did you see that BYTEBALL dipping ended ?

Bottom right "CHAT" button of of the Byteball Wallet in the "WCG distribution" section:

Quote
Dear WCG cruncher,

First of all we want to wish you Happy Holidays with your friends and family!

Last time we wrote you about diminishing returns for more than 40 connected devices. This measure alone has proven to be ineffective. Unfortunately we are going to have to change the rules a second time.

Again, WCG rewards are meant for new users to be able to discover Byteball by donating some spare CPU power to a good cause, not to make money.

For now we are going to reduce the reward to $1 per 1,000,000 WCG points earned, effective from Monday December 24 on. This way the method will still work like a faucet but it will be much harder to make a profit, which was never intended. We’ll monitor what this change does and make further changes when necessary.

Happy crunching Smiley

The Byteball Team


So if we are the only coin that can be profitable with BOINC why do we need to stop BOINC now ?
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FYI

When I tried to download Win64 wallet from main webpage biblepay.org, antivir blocked this page with warning potential dangerous content. For Win32 page it is without warning.

Run the download through virustotal.com, get the hash, then notify us of who your search engine is, what browser you were using and then lets get one of our members here to check with that search engine to whitelist the hash.

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