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Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes) - page 553. (Read 243376 times)

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main input about site....


link to YOUR forums, not reddit or BTCtalk.

That way we get true up to date info, and hopefully dont have to wade through over 300 pages of stuff to find out what is actually going on "now"

Alright, I'll ask Thomas if he can also place a link to forum.biblepay.org Smiley
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DID it say WHERE AND HOW to vote??? dont believe so, but im not trying to "split hairs..." so to speak.

like ive mentioned in the past, your main website links to reddit and stuff, NOT TO YOUR OWN SITES.

Strongly feel that should be changed, and that information like how/where to vote... just like i found out i AM a member of the forums, and even though voting technically ends in like 3 hours, i still CANT VOTE.

It did say where and how to vote very clearly. Voting is closed now (this has also been discusses on bitcointalk).

Also, when the new site is up, there will be an option to receive a newsletter, so everyone will be really kept up to date to the things that are happening.

Also, if you see room for improvement, you have to speak up (now is a little late concerning the voting, but you can ask for other improvements), or you just implement them. Biblepay is not an organization but a community.


And as a community, everyone has a vote as far as I'm concerned. I've been trying to keep things open and debatable since I first encountered this project. We are working really hard to make the main website something that works, as it very clearly isn't at this point. If you have any input on that, please contact me.
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fahq420 you have true... im agree with you: im wrote/told many times here about this that we dont want next forum....... its bad...... or its mistification/ on purpose/ may be designedly : this mirroring informations on more places is good for whales/dev/first miners etc and bad for newbies/newminers/investors ... it bad light for BBP


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DID it say WHERE AND HOW to vote??? dont believe so, but im not trying to "split hairs..." so to speak.

like ive mentioned in the past, your main website links to reddit and stuff, NOT TO YOUR OWN SITES.

Strongly feel that should be changed, and that information like how/where to vote... just like i found out i AM a member of the forums, and even though voting technically ends in like 3 hours, i still CANT VOTE.
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jaapgvk  many thanks,i have true about it, cos more ppl asked me where is main forum/thread ... very strange algo in forum ... and i cant find it ...not exists between all topics
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and ROB im found little problem for new users ...  when im on main web BTT forum and writing biblepay into search window, no exists our main thread .... may be its bug of forum,i dont know,


can anybody to try it?if working ...


thanks



It's in the list, but it's way down. Should be number one when searching, but I don't know how this search-algorithm works...
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many times im wrote here with BIG RED WORDS about voting .... but on the other side= why we have next forum, ppl are sick that exists BTT,forum,reddit etc etc tones of forums and next thing= VOTE SCHEDULE changing,next bad things.....

lichtsuchers web is dead with fresh infos  Roll Eyes next bad light for BBP... its so hard to hire nonstop 1-2 websters for us?


im talked with more slovak guys/friends/ppl/miners where will be problem with ONICHAN=SCAPEGOAT  his rewards will be raising exponencial and with raising stake coins will be raise his power (adding new new new machines) THIS IS BIGGEST problem of BBP ... we will never get it


and ROB im found little problem for new users ...  when im on main web BTT forum and writing biblepay into search window, no exists our main thread .... may be its bug of forum,i dont know,


can anybody to try it?if working ...


thanks

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yeh, but votes where? on a forum u need an invite and special  permission to register for??? i've been on the discord and this forum for a long time, and i never hear getting registered elsewhere to vote..I'm sure im not the only disappointed person here.

We've been practically begging people to vote for about a month. The entire proces from start to finish has been widely discussed on this forum. Users made posts with big red letters, asking for people to vote. I've also asked multiple times to please vote.

There were even complaints that the poll was open for too much time.

This has been a democratic choice, and if you're only now finding out about this, you clearly haven't been reading on this forum.

While it was a democratic choice, the thing I want most is that the requirements for new users to start mining aren't too high, and I hope that this rule hasn't gotten in the way of that. The average home-PC will generate about 2000 RAC, and at the current rate it will costs about 30 dollars worth of BBP to have a stake that will give you 100% of the rewards. If this proves too high of an entrance costs, I think we should be able to lower the RAC-requirement in the next mandatory (that I think is planned for june). Maybe this round people will be more motivated to vote, since they have realized that their vote actually counts in this community.

Besides that, if you have an android-phone, you can create an unbanked account without staking requirements.

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I need a replacement in our shared masternode, dave_bbp is leaving. Payment 155k BBP for 9.9% weekly payout specification is mailed you can pm me. Here or email [email protected]
Hi Joel,
Do you on discord now ?
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I need a replacement in our shared masternode, dave_bbp is leaving. Payment 155k BBP for 9.9% weekly payout specification is mailed you can pm me. Here or email [email protected]
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yeh, but votes where? on a forum u need an invite and special  permission to register for??? i've been on the discord and this forum for a long time, and i never hear getting registered elsewhere to vote..I'm sure im not the only disappointed person here.
You don't need an invite. Just register here and the administrator will approve.
http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?action=register
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yeh, but votes where? on a forum u need an invite and special  permission to register for??? i've been on the discord and this forum for a long time, and i never hear getting registered elsewhere to vote..I'm sure im not the only disappointed person here.
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personally, i still dont get the whole "staking" thing or i guess more appropriately FORCED STAKING. If i dont hold enough coins, i get crap reward?Huh even though im putting in the same processing power others are??
Look it was put to a vote which in my opinion is as fair and democratic as we can be. Literally no one voted for no stake requirement.
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personally, i still dont get the whole "staking" thing or i guess more appropriately FORCED STAKING. If i dont hold enough coins, i get crap reward?Huh even though im putting in the same processing power others are??
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If you want to allow both RAH and WCG on 1 PC just run this on working machine:
Code:
boinccmd --project_attach https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org YOURAUTHKEYFROMWEB

Thanks! Yesterday I added WCG to a linux machine crunching R@H, now today the WCG and R@H Cross-Project IDs (CPIDs) are the same.

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While I like the fact there was a democratic vote, I do think that given the structure of our community that such decisions should have been left to the Masternodes.  They are the governance.  At some level we do need a "benevolent dictator" but for something like this, I think it should have been the providence of the Masternodes as that is harder to game.

We'll see how 20 BBP / RAC pans out, my guess is it won't change too much on the top and bottom, the big 3 will have the three weeks of making 50% of the mining proceeds to bank their futures, the bottom users will be bringing a small stake for their small RAC.  What it SHOULD effect is preventing a large malevolent user from jumping in, such as a bot net, and making any inroads.  If this coin continues to be dominated in the mining world by a small set of users, this coin will probably stall out, and that's coming from an ardent supporter.   But really there is no way to correct it, there's not enough people that are permitted to make real decisions to have avoided this.  The miss by all of us in testnet created a huge windfall for those able to nimbly bring VPNs on line and spend hundreds of dollars a day to gain the more than double intended rewards.  And really anyone that's in the top should have enough BBP banked from these three weeks to keep the status quo.
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Now.. for something positive

shortly it will be Easter morning for me .. for some it already is.

He is Risen!  Rejoice!

I hope you all have a wonderful Easter.
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It will be interesting to see how many Sanctuaries survive the next two days, right now we have 186 total/138 enabled.


Is there a hidden agenda here?


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Anyone care to donate some BBP so I dont get totally messed over by the 20/rac update? Smiley

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Based on the uxto, the big fish with large quantites are going to get massive payouts as the smaller guys get pennies..  I'll wait and see what the new payout structure looks like....

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For the record I should have payed more attention to this earlier in the discussion...

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can somoone send me c-cex invite code?
Not sure, is CCEX still accepting registrations?
Southxchange is the other working option, I believe.

Did you manage to vote on the issue?
I think it's worth noting that Rob's initial plan was to go with per MAG, but some asked for per RAC. So Rob gave us that option and people voted that way. Can't get more democratic than that!

By the way Rob, perhaps for future votes we could consider only accounts older than 1 month old can vote to avoid spam/illegitimate accounts.

I think the best way with what we have now is to do a couple of proposals and see which one wins.


The problem with that is you being a holder of 20% of the entire coins magnitude wants a re-vote, because it appears you are not happy with the current outcome.  I watched the vote sway to 20 bbp per rac early on, and although it requires more adjustments, I don't see any evidence of corruption.  

It's not fair to constantly ask for re-votes until you get a poll that gives you what you want.

One nice thing about this outcome is now people have to pay to play if they want to pull an extraordinarily large piece of Biblepays rewards.




There you go again, talking me down. I never asked for a re-vote.

The poll outcome will be the same even if you did it. Now if this does not go well 6 months from now, then a re-vote may be necessary.
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It will be interesting to see how many Sanctuaries survive the next two days, right now we have 186 total/138 enabled.


Is there a hidden agenda here?


...

Anyone care to donate some BBP so I dont get totally messed over by the 20/rac update? Smiley

edit:
Based on the uxto, the big fish with large quantites are going to get massive payouts as the smaller guys get pennies..  I'll wait and see what the new payout structure looks like....

edit2:

For the record I should have payed more attention to this earlier in the discussion...

edit3:
can somoone send me c-cex invite code?
Not sure, is CCEX still accepting registrations?
Southxchange is the other working option, I believe.

Did you manage to vote on the issue?
I think it's worth noting that Rob's initial plan was to go with per MAG, but some asked for per RAC. So Rob gave us that option and people voted that way. Can't get more democratic than that!

By the way Rob, perhaps for future votes we could consider only accounts older than 1 month old can vote to avoid spam/illegitimate accounts.

Thanks Luke, I'm not dissapointed that we held a general poll, for two reasons:  1) We gave the general consensus a chance to vote - people who cant afford Sanctuaries, and 2) We discovered a more granular outcome from the poll (in contrast to what a sanctuary poll could have done since its atomic).

Ill be sure to look into that option for the next poll, I believe its possible.



Absolutely, I think the vote was very worthwhile and democratic. Nice one!
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It will be interesting to see how many Sanctuaries survive the next two days, right now we have 186 total/138 enabled.


edit:
Based on the uxto, the big fish with large quantites are going to get massive payouts as the smaller guys get pennies..  I'll wait and see what the new payout structure looks like....


No, its the opposite of that.  The big fish who cant afford the UTXO are going to share their RAC rewards with the small fish.



Some of the big fish have large amount of BBP already. Onni-chan has 14M BBP and I have 8M BBP for staking which will account for 20% of the rewards. I don't know about the other big fishes but if they don't have enough BBP then everyone will get a bigger share if the little fishes also don't have enough BBP, which seems to be the case.
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