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Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes) - page 74. (Read 243376 times)

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All blocks solved up to this point were paid out of pool.biblepay.org, also (IE Nomp sent out what it knew about, but pool.biblepay also paid them).  
The way the payments are *supposed* to work, Nomp writes the blockhashes down in the database, and wait for them to mature.  After 120 blocks, it pays the recipients within 30 mins.  We have yet to see any sanity in the process, but once I see a few come in on QT Ill start tracking these babies.
Rob, I'm on NOMP pool almost from beggining, but I did'nt received any payment yet.
My worker was B4z5SQtK9hMFkDdAzpMuJXNcPyFhFBPPc1. I started as funded, with pool.biblepay worker, but after ABN shut down I mine standalone.
I put to the pool only few VPS, but It would be very bad luck to not have any share in solved blocks.
It would be good to see miner statistics (history), lik it's on other pools. I understand that this is beta and maybe this is the future future, but now I'm not able to see my results.
So I mine on pool for few days without any payment and I don't know why Smiley Sad
With actual diff it's not possible to mine solo for me, so I'm moving to pool.biblepay for now Smiley

I will stop solo mining soon. After ABN turned off, miner that was getting only 1 block a day, is getting over 21 blocks a day now and making difficulty super high. I think it is not good use of CPU to join pool.biblepay.org because external miner much more efficient. So, you'd be running only 70% efficient on pool.biblepay.org -- already, you can see pool.biblepay.org is already 3rd place from 1st place since yesterday: chainz bbp extraction

Will likely join NOMP pool and try my luck there.
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All blocks solved up to this point were paid out of pool.biblepay.org, also (IE Nomp sent out what it knew about, but pool.biblepay also paid them). 
The way the payments are *supposed* to work, Nomp writes the blockhashes down in the database, and wait for them to mature.  After 120 blocks, it pays the recipients within 30 mins.  We have yet to see any sanity in the process, but once I see a few come in on QT Ill start tracking these babies.
Rob, I'm on NOMP pool almost from beggining, but I did'nt received any payment yet.
My worker was B4z5SQtK9hMFkDdAzpMuJXNcPyFhFBPPc1. I started as funded, with pool.biblepay worker, but after ABN shut down I mine standalone.
I put to the pool only few VPS, but It would be very bad luck to not have any share in solved blocks.
It would be good to see miner statistics (history), lik it's on other pools. I understand that this is beta and maybe this is the future future, but now I'm not able to see my results.
So I mine on pool for few days without any payment and I don't know why Smiley Sad
With actual diff it's not possible to mine solo for me, so I'm moving to pool.biblepay for now Smiley
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I was able to perform the analysis while CPK was required. After ABN is turned off, we won't know who mined blocks as well. I guess we will have to wait until PoDC 2.0 comes out:

Who are the miners in the BiblePay network?
https://whitewalr.us/2019/biblepay-solo-pool-miners.html
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NOMP pool pages are up, miners get : connection refused

15 minutes now

Update: all good now. expecting more ups and downs today Smiley

It's getting there now finally; looks like we did have a couple issues...


Oh bible! Oh pay! Oh biblepay! You made my delusion a lingering issue. Its kilometer-long roots stem from the time when I was little and lopped the all-seeing eye off the eye socket of a bamboozled idolator. I have brought my sense of self-pity to absurd level in fear of being separated from those I loved. And now I own up to the fact of being wrong in my assumption that biblepays purity can be preserved.

You seriously have mental issues....
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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
what is this?  Huh

{
  "Error!": "CreateGSCTransmission::Fail::Transaction amount too small",
  "Error!": "POG: CreateGSCTransmission::Fail::Transaction amount too small"
}

Your coins are too new - please go to coin control, and see if the depth > 6.

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what is this?  Huh

{
  "Error!": "CreateGSCTransmission::Fail::Transaction amount too small",
  "Error!": "POG: CreateGSCTransmission::Fail::Transaction amount too small"
}
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Unfortunately to see such a result of TOKOK , but it is true. Cry

On the other hand, if disabled the ABN and there are no more restrictions, I think it will cause the market price to go from bad to worse.

The root cause is China, there are huge free machines, I know that mainland people most of them use company resources, or electricity is free. When they get rewards, they will not hesitate to sell it all (no matter what price, as they have no cost need to pay)

I know that in China they have a group is about BBP. If they discovered that, then I will not imagine how BBP is.

Yeah, I had to vent there, exactly.

Yes, good points on cheap Chinese mining.  I think we can address it another way, just a little different than ABNs:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=461.new#new

We will end up with PODC again (proof-of-distributed-computing), so we just have to address it in a novel way, during the rewrite of PODC 2.0.

But yes, we need to do that.

I don't want to promise a date yet, but I believe we are going to shoot for something like the end of November to have something working in prod.




Sounds good! Looking forward to the return of PODC 2.0, hope to attract new investors and make BBP more valuable~
It also let we help relevant institutions to research results.
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Hello everyone,

I haven't really been active the last couple of months, but since yesterday I'm trying the external miner on the NOMP pool. Really nice work so far!
Rob, you mentioned the pool found a block somewhen today. How is the payment for the blocks working? Are they paid as soon as they have matured, or once per day, per week etc.?

Another, unrelated, question: I saw that the Sanctuary Payments are constantly dropping since last week (it's below 1k bbp, going as low as 680), although the number of Sancs has not really increased for weeks or months. How is that calculated?

Thanks in advance and keep up the good work!
Thanks on Nomp, Im still positive on having stratum -- but we still have some bugs to work out in the system.

As far as that block, I ended up erasing the database and the wallet this morning (I erased the wallet around 2hours ago), and decided to run bbp from QT on the server until we get all the bugs out (this lets me see any blocks that we solve).

All blocks solved up to this point were paid out of pool.biblepay.org, also (IE Nomp sent out what it knew about, but pool.biblepay also paid them). 
The way the payments are *supposed* to work, Nomp writes the blockhashes down in the database, and wait for them to mature.  After 120 blocks, it pays the recipients within 30 mins.  We have yet to see any sanity in the process, but once I see a few come in on QT Ill start tracking these babies.

The reason sanc payments have been dropping is our diff is rising - and our DGW algo causes heat/sanc rewards to drop as diff rises.
But that is changing soon, as we are about to remove QT:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=461.new#new

Ok, so now that I can "see" whats going on, I can now clearly see the nomp pools dedicated wallet solved one block a half hour ago, so lets track it.  This feels a little better since we have been at around .90 mh/s in nomp for the last 2 hours - so that may be correct.  Pool.biblepay.org solved 19 blocks in 24 hours at 5 mh/s.  So we will need to reconcile nomps solutions also.

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Activity: 1176
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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
Hello everyone,

I haven't really been active the last couple of months, but since yesterday I'm trying the external miner on the NOMP pool. Really nice work so far!
Rob, you mentioned the pool found a block somewhen today. How is the payment for the blocks working? Are they paid as soon as they have matured, or once per day, per week etc.?

Another, unrelated, question: I saw that the Sanctuary Payments are constantly dropping since last week (it's below 1k bbp, going as low as 680), although the number of Sancs has not really increased for weeks or months. How is that calculated?

Thanks in advance and keep up the good work!
Thanks on Nomp, Im still positive on having stratum -- but we still have some bugs to work out in the system.

As far as that block, I ended up erasing the database and the wallet this morning (I erased the wallet around 2hours ago), and decided to run bbp from QT on the server until we get all the bugs out (this lets me see any blocks that we solve).

All blocks solved up to this point were paid out of pool.biblepay.org, also (IE Nomp sent out what it knew about, but pool.biblepay also paid them). 
The way the payments are *supposed* to work, Nomp writes the blockhashes down in the database, and wait for them to mature.  After 120 blocks, it pays the recipients within 30 mins.  We have yet to see any sanity in the process, but once I see a few come in on QT Ill start tracking these babies.

The reason sanc payments have been dropping is our diff is rising - and our DGW algo causes heat/sanc rewards to drop as diff rises.
But that is changing soon, as we are about to remove QT:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=461.new#new
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Activity: 1176
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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
Unfortunately to see such a result of TOKOK , but it is true. Cry

On the other hand, if disabled the ABN and there are no more restrictions, I think it will cause the market price to go from bad to worse.

The root cause is China, there are huge free machines, I know that mainland people most of them use company resources, or electricity is free. When they get rewards, they will not hesitate to sell it all (no matter what price, as they have no cost need to pay)

I know that in China they have a group is about BBP. If they discovered that, then I will not imagine how BBP is.

Yeah, I had to vent there, exactly.

Yes, good points on cheap Chinese mining.  I think we can address it another way, just a little different than ABNs:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=461.new#new

We will end up with PODC again (proof-of-distributed-computing), so we just have to address it in a novel way, during the rewrite of PODC 2.0.

But yes, we need to do that.

I don't want to promise a date yet, but I believe we are going to shoot for something like the end of November to have something working in prod.

newbie
Activity: 56
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Unfortunately to see such a result of TOKOK , but it is true. Cry

On the other hand, if disabled the ABN and there are no more restrictions, I think it will cause the market price to go from bad to worse.

The root cause is China, there are huge free machines, I know that mainland people most of them use company resources, or electricity is free. When they get rewards, they will not hesitate to sell it all (no matter what price, as they have no cost need to pay)

I know that in China they have a group is about BBP. If they discovered that, then I will not imagine how BBP is.
jr. member
Activity: 405
Merit: 3
Hello everyone,

I haven't really been active the last couple of months, but since yesterday I'm trying the external miner on the NOMP pool. Really nice work so far!
Rob, you mentioned the pool found a block somewhen today. How is the payment for the blocks working? Are they paid as soon as they have matured, or once per day, per week etc.?

Another, unrelated, question: I saw that the Sanctuary Payments are constantly dropping since last week (it's below 1k bbp, going as low as 680), although the number of Sancs has not really increased for weeks or months. How is that calculated?

Thanks in advance and keep up the good work!
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Yeah this is unfortunate, I never found any information about them restricting any countries

Ive asked their support for a list of the countries they do not allow, he said its on the website,
Ive looked through the whole website and havent found a list, I asked him for a link, still waiting on an answer

I dont know if its necessarily a dealbreaker, but maybe, probably, I dont know
I assume a good chunk of our current users are in the US

Note: crex24 exchange also doesnt allow US users, but its just an IP restriction, can bypass it with a VPN, they dont do KYC

Is the US too unfriendly on Cryptocurrency?
Is there an easy/cheap way to become a citizen of another country? dual citizenship?

Cryptocurrency is a world currency, without borders
Arent we all citizens of planet earth? of the milkyway galaxy?
Should we move to another country thats more friendly to crypto?

Support guy is giving me the run around, said theres a link, wont provide me with a link,
now he is saying there was a mailing about it to all registered users, now Im asking for a copy of the mailing

Only other reference I could find of USA being restricted on Coinsbit, 18 days ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/airdropalertcom/comments/de93o6/coinsbit_warning_for_those_in_the_usa/

Support now asked me to join online chat on the website,
They are saying US is only country they do not allow,
and theyre claiming its in the Terms of use, but I cant find it in the Terms,
I asked them to pinpoint the section,
Now hes going back to saying it was in the mailing,
I asked for a copy of the mailing and he said no and left the chat...

Well I think its a matter of saving up our BTC investment for a 'really good deal'.  Its not that I think the deal is not worth 1 btc, its more of our last bitcoin available for quite a while once we spend it.  If we save it, we can make a deal with another top 25 exchange - hopefully.

I havent created proposals for the backup plans because coinsbit appeared to be an amazing deal, but snuffing out 50% of our customer base for trading drops it, imho, down to a 'shaky deal'.  We just dont have the budget to make mistakes any more, we must be perfect in all ways (easy to say, hard to do).

So we have graviex, which is a tiny exchange, but only .05 btc, and we have Stex who does accept US customers (to my knowledge), but they dont want to do a 'btc/bbp' deal (they offered .50 for bbp-eth) and Im a little turned off by Ether right now based on our virtually zero volume on tokok, so maybe we should consider voting it down and keeping our powder dry for the next deal- as I think if we are persistent, someone will have a heart for us and put us up with the big dogs.  We can always go back to development and make PODC 2.0, and reapproach the big dogs.

Once we spend this, we are out of the exhchange game for a while.  If we save the money, we can afford a "really good deal" if we can keep searching. (To clarify, even 1.5 btc or 2.0 btc if the deal is a top 5 exchange etc).

As far as the question about what is wrong with the US, the thing is we are using our power to impede the USD in ways the banking system has to adhere to - like swift transactions, and the power of NY SEC regs and money laundering ricochets through the world.  Sometimes court agreement can get people thrown in jail even in other countries because of our temporary financial strength (which, Im not saying is right to be subject to-- Im saying exists currently) and the world hates this Smiley, thats part of what crypto is changing ironically!

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Here are screenshots of my discussions with Coinsbit support
https://imgur.com/a/r61k3yi
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Yeah this is unfortunate, I never found any information about them restricting any countries

Ive asked their support for a list of the countries they do not allow, he said its on the website,
Ive looked through the whole website and havent found a list, I asked him for a link, still waiting on an answer

I dont know if its necessarily a dealbreaker, but maybe, probably, I dont know
I assume a good chunk of our current users are in the US

Note: crex24 exchange also doesnt allow US users, but its just an IP restriction, can bypass it with a VPN, they dont do KYC

Is the US too unfriendly on Cryptocurrency?
Is there an easy/cheap way to become a citizen of another country? dual citizenship?

Cryptocurrency is a world currency, without borders
Arent we all citizens of planet earth? of the milkyway galaxy?
Should we move to another country thats more friendly to crypto?

Support guy is giving me the run around, said theres a link, wont provide me with a link,
now he is saying there was a mailing about it to all registered users, now Im asking for a copy of the mailing

Only other reference I could find of USA being restricted on Coinsbit, 18 days ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/airdropalertcom/comments/de93o6/coinsbit_warning_for_those_in_the_usa/

Support now asked me to join online chat on the website,
They are saying US is only country they do not allow,
and theyre claiming its in the Terms of use, but I cant find it in the Terms,
I asked them to pinpoint the section,
Now hes going back to saying it was in the mailing,
I asked for a copy of the mailing and he said no and left the chat...
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I got an email back today that my Coinsbit account was not approved

Quote
Title: Customer Doc Disapproved

No documents accepted. Please try again.

Reason: "Dear customer, good day! Your verification application was disapproved. We do not accept USA documents. Thank you for understanding."

I asked in their Telegram, "Does Coinsbit not allow users from the USA?"
Eugene from Coinsbit Support Team said "No, it's not allowed"

I feel like we are being misled and taken advantage of in a lot of places.  I made it pretty clear to Nick that I lived in the US and he never mentioned to me trading is not allowed.

Ok I asked support last night through their ticket system if they required a KYC, and I got a reply back - US customers are not allowed.

Well, this is material information that would change the vote potentially.

So far I only executed the contract but we did not send them any money.

Lets discuss further if we should vote this down now?



https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=460.0

I made sure my notify is on in this thread; lets discuss what should we do, offer .10 btc for the listing, or cancel the deal until they offer services to US citizens?
Ill post this over there now.

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I got an email back today that my Coinsbit account was not approved

Quote
Title: Customer Doc Disapproved

No documents accepted. Please try again.

Reason: "Dear customer, good day! Your verification application was disapproved. We do not accept USA documents. Thank you for understanding."

I asked in their Telegram, "Does Coinsbit not allow users from the USA?"
Eugene from Coinsbit Support Team said "No, it's not allowed"

I feel like we are being misled and taken advantage of in a lot of places.  I made it pretty clear to Nick that I lived in the US and he never mentioned to me trading is not allowed.

Ok I asked support last night through their ticket system if they required a KYC, and I got a reply back - US customers are not allowed.

Well, this is material information that would change the vote potentially.

So far I only executed the contract but we did not send them any money.

Lets discuss further if we should vote this down now?

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I got an email back today that my Coinsbit account was not approved

Quote
Title: Customer Doc Disapproved

No documents accepted. Please try again.

Reason: "Dear customer, good day! Your verification application was disapproved. We do not accept USA documents. Thank you for understanding."

I asked in their Telegram, "Does Coinsbit not allow users from the USA?"
Eugene from Coinsbit Support Team said "No, it's not allowed"
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yes I see the duplicate shares causing the boo in the miner.

thanks for your efforts. I'm sure it is frustrating sometimes.
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Its set this way for a reason - its not deployed to prod yet- this is beta software still.  This is why I said I dont want to talk about this yet - we dont have an unlimited amount of time to discuss things that are changing.

Okay, sorry for pressing you. I'll wait.

I've had it set much longer this morning, but the issue is even with both ways (longer times between rpc polls) and shorter times (like it is now) both have a problem (I believe unrelated to the new block scan time).

But anyway, the worst thing that happens when the server asks for 'stratum requested work restart' is the client starts with a new timestamp and nonce, but in reality it does not actually stop hashing (so its not grossly inefficient).  Any hash has a chance of winning. 

But yes, I definitely will be tweaking the pool to more efficient once we know its working (as then less network data will be wasted).

Right now its still not finished - something is missing.  We did solve a block just now - with half the nomp miners, so its partially working.

Ill debug it more tomorrow.

In the mean time it looks like we have some threads to answer.



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