Rob-
Are you all done tweaking the pool shares algo? I have 3 vultr servers running and before maybe friday it was generating over 100 coins per hour. Now down to 12 and sometimes 0 / hr. Is this what I can expect going forward? Will it increase at start of month? Its very unclear how this all works tbh. If you could retweak it for the little guys again that would be great not only for me of course but for third world countries.
Edit - It is unpredictable. Now saying 35/hr
Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes) - page 741. (Read 243376 times)
December 31, 2017, 11:50:02 PM
December 31, 2017, 11:46:35 PM
Looks like its a JSON error expecting a value to be surrounded by double quotes, not sure if its related to the commands you entered in earlier?
Alright, I just told the pool to release the current budget (this is a decentralized feature btw, its just a one page hex command that is a little technical, if I die Im sure someone here like Alex can figure it out, you then paste this 300,000 hex command into a valid masternode - any biblepay masternode and it kicks it over for the next superblock). This combines our winning proposals into a budget object and creates a superblock trigger for the next height. The budget TXID is updated on the current proposal records and they become budget proposal records in contrast to proposal records.
Anyway, the superblock is coming at block 24600 (getsuperblockbudget 24600).
Anyway, the superblock is coming at block 24600 (getsuperblockbudget 24600).
December 31, 2017, 11:39:54 PM
Seeing my Sanctuary and a lot of Sanctuaries in list with WATCHDOG_EXPIRED status
Code:
~/.biblepaycore/watchman# cd ~/.biblepaycore/watchman && ./venv/bin/python bin/watchman.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "bin/watchman.py", line 244, in
main()
File "bin/watchman.py", line 191, in main
perform_biblepayd_object_sync(biblepayd)
File "bin/watchman.py", line 24, in perform_biblepayd_object_sync
GovernanceObject.sync(biblepayd)
File "lib/models.py", line 87, in sync
(go, subobj) = self.import_gobject_from_biblepayd(biblepayd, item)
File "lib/models.py", line 117, in import_gobject_from_biblepayd
object_hex = biblepaylib.SHIM_deserialise_from_biblepayd(object_hex)
File "lib/biblepaylib.py", line 204, in SHIM_deserialise_from_biblepayd
obj = deserialise(biblepayd_hex)
File "lib/biblepaylib.py", line 229, in deserialise
obj = simplejson.loads(json, use_decimal=True)
File "/root/.biblepaycore/watchman/venv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/simplejson/__init__.py", line 533, in loads
return cls(encoding=encoding, **kw).decode(s)
File "/root/.biblepaycore/watchman/venv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/simplejson/decoder.py", line 370, in decode
obj, end = self.raw_decode(s)
File "/root/.biblepaycore/watchman/venv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/simplejson/decoder.py", line 400, in raw_decode
return self.scan_once(s, idx=_w(s, idx).end())
simplejson.scanner.JSONDecodeError: Expecting property name enclosed in double quotes: line 1 column 1673 (char 1672)
Lets try to restart them, making me nervous as we get closer to the superblock... Ill look at the error.
December 31, 2017, 11:18:39 PM
Seeing my Sanctuary and a lot of Sanctuaries in list with WATCHDOG_EXPIRED status
Code:
~/.biblepaycore/watchman# cd ~/.biblepaycore/watchman && ./venv/bin/python bin/watchman.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "bin/watchman.py", line 244, in
main()
File "bin/watchman.py", line 191, in main
perform_biblepayd_object_sync(biblepayd)
File "bin/watchman.py", line 24, in perform_biblepayd_object_sync
GovernanceObject.sync(biblepayd)
File "lib/models.py", line 87, in sync
(go, subobj) = self.import_gobject_from_biblepayd(biblepayd, item)
File "lib/models.py", line 117, in import_gobject_from_biblepayd
object_hex = biblepaylib.SHIM_deserialise_from_biblepayd(object_hex)
File "lib/biblepaylib.py", line 204, in SHIM_deserialise_from_biblepayd
obj = deserialise(biblepayd_hex)
File "lib/biblepaylib.py", line 229, in deserialise
obj = simplejson.loads(json, use_decimal=True)
File "/root/.biblepaycore/watchman/venv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/simplejson/__init__.py", line 533, in loads
return cls(encoding=encoding, **kw).decode(s)
File "/root/.biblepaycore/watchman/venv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/simplejson/decoder.py", line 370, in decode
obj, end = self.raw_decode(s)
File "/root/.biblepaycore/watchman/venv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/simplejson/decoder.py", line 400, in raw_decode
return self.scan_once(s, idx=_w(s, idx).end())
simplejson.scanner.JSONDecodeError: Expecting property name enclosed in double quotes: line 1 column 1673 (char 1672)
December 31, 2017, 10:13:53 PM
I found some articles written about BiblePay in other languages!
With Chrome I could click "Translate this page" button on right side of address bar to read it in English, very cool!
Spanish
https://www.xrltechcorner.com/blog/biblepay-la-palabra-de-dios-ya-tiene-criptomoneda
German?
https://www.krypto-magazin.de/was-ist-biblepay-coin/
Japanese
http://www.zbaron-newworld.com/entry/2017/09/13/010702
With Chrome I could click "Translate this page" button on right side of address bar to read it in English, very cool!
Spanish
https://www.xrltechcorner.com/blog/biblepay-la-palabra-de-dios-ya-tiene-criptomoneda
German?
https://www.krypto-magazin.de/was-ist-biblepay-coin/
Japanese
http://www.zbaron-newworld.com/entry/2017/09/13/010702
December 31, 2017, 09:52:05 PM
Happy new year!
December 31, 2017, 08:57:07 PM
The ROI on the masternode will decrease as more people buy them.
They NOT BUY by them they only freez their 1,5mln bbp for time when they want earn 11k coins per day... I'm asking for what atm? Small miners will never come to this coin because it's look like scam for MN, oh i forgot, as you said "you dont care about small miners..."
P.S. to be clear, i stop minning because i dont want sponsor MN.
So much hate for a Christian Coin, lets love one another.
December 31, 2017, 07:19:34 PM
The ROI on the masternode will decrease as more people buy them.
They NOT BUY by them they only freez their 1,5mln bbp for time when they want earn 11k coins per day... I'm asking for what atm? Small miners will never come to this coin because it's look like scam for MN, oh i forgot, as you said "you dont care about small miners..."
P.S. to be clear, i stop minning because i dont want sponsor MN.
December 31, 2017, 06:36:10 PM
hi,
have checked autowithdrawal feature and have some questions:
how to disable autowithdrawal? dont see any button/option for this
how to set how many bbp to withdraw? it is better to check transactions with good looking nubmers like 5000 bbp or so, not some 4812.23
if there will not be enough bpp, then no trx will be done, else selected amount will be sent
and happy new year))
have checked autowithdrawal feature and have some questions:
how to disable autowithdrawal? dont see any button/option for this
how to set how many bbp to withdraw? it is better to check transactions with good looking nubmers like 5000 bbp or so, not some 4812.23
if there will not be enough bpp, then no trx will be done, else selected amount will be sentand happy new year
)) December 31, 2017, 06:29:05 PM
Happy new years everyone!
Some goals I hope Biblepay achieves in 2018
My personal Biblepay goals
Some goals I hope Biblepay achieves in 2018
- Listed in 2 or more major exchanges. Binance , Cryptopia would be my votes
- Biblepay listed in top 100
- 1000 sat or more!
- Biblepay used to help homeless/poor persons
- Biblepay debt card so I can mine my groceries and day to day expenses
My personal Biblepay goals
- Create many more innovative IT projects for Biblepay to earn...
- A masternode....or maybe 2 or 3
- Pay off blood sucking debts with Biblepay earnings
- Buy a house....if we dream...we dream big
Nice! I would also add:
-- Ability to buy any item off Amazon through the wallet (I think Rob is working on this)
-- The stratis project Rob is working on
-- Adding more gospel features. My suggestion: Everytime a transaction is sent/received in the wallet a pop-up confirmation with a bible verse
Im all for the amazon feature, we can make it happen.
That popup bible verse feature is a great idea! Ill get it developed within 30 days.
December 31, 2017, 06:24:20 PM
Happy new years everyone!
Some goals I hope Biblepay achieves in 2018
My personal Biblepay goals
Some goals I hope Biblepay achieves in 2018
- Listed in 2 or more major exchanges. Binance , Cryptopia would be my votes
- Biblepay listed in top 100
- 1000 sat or more!
- Biblepay used to help homeless/poor persons
- Biblepay debt card so I can mine my groceries and day to day expenses
My personal Biblepay goals
- Create many more innovative IT projects for Biblepay to earn...
- A masternode....or maybe 2 or 3
- Pay off blood sucking debts with Biblepay earnings
- Buy a house....if we dream...we dream big
Nice! I would also add:
-- Ability to buy any item off Amazon through the wallet (I think Rob is working on this)
-- The stratis project Rob is working on
-- Adding more gospel features. My suggestion: Everytime a transaction is sent/received in the wallet a pop-up confirmation with a bible verse
December 31, 2017, 06:09:01 PM
happy new yearrrrrrrrrrrrr from SLOVAKIAAAAAA
BBP to the Moon
BBP to the Moon
December 31, 2017, 05:29:53 PM
happy new year from slovakia !
god bless biblepay project, its development and miners
cheers
god bless biblepay project, its development and miners
cheers
December 31, 2017, 05:03:50 PM
Happy new years everyone!
Some goals I hope Biblepay achieves in 2018
My personal Biblepay goals
Some goals I hope Biblepay achieves in 2018
- Listed in 2 or more major exchanges. Binance , Cryptopia would be my votes
- Biblepay listed in top 100
- 1000 sat or more!
- Biblepay used to help homeless/poor persons
- Biblepay debt card so I can mine my groceries and day to day expenses
My personal Biblepay goals
- Create many more innovative IT projects for Biblepay to earn...
- A masternode....or maybe 2 or 3
- Pay off blood sucking debts with Biblepay earnings
- Buy a house....if we dream...we dream big
December 31, 2017, 04:50:07 PM
today i ran MN
for 12 hours i didnt reward on MN....dont understand this system then ... very weird
in Explorer i see 3 MN which didnt receive rewards in last 24hours
for 12 hours i didnt reward on MN....dont understand this system then ... very weird
in Explorer i see 3 MN which didnt receive rewards in last 24hours
December 31, 2017, 03:31:30 PM
So for the realists out there:
20% for our budgets from each block - and 100% of our charity goes to orphans with no overhead
Of the remaining 80%: 50% to miner, 50% to sanctuary if Solo mining
If pool mining: 50% to sanctuary, ~45% to miner over the long term <- this is more realistic, temporarily 50/33 for a couple days
If pool mining @ minersofmen: 50%, 50% (If minersofmen is up?)
And I catch your drift, if you want to work with Gross numbers:
Out of a 14000 BBP block, a miner receives 40% of the block NET counting all possible deductions (budget,pool fees,sanctuary share everything), and today-tempoarily receives 33% of the block counting high pool fees (as of today). Count on that 33% rising over the next 40 days back up to 39% of the block.
Thanks Rob,
Not that I think it's unfair, but it's better to give good amounts of all fees and rewards.
Everywhere u read different value's. Just make one place where u update all information so it's clear for everyone.
Besides that... I think 50% for a masternode is already high. From start it was 10% masternode 80% miner.
If u lower more from the miners they might leave ofcourse.
The pool is good, but with higher fees people just might make a own pool or mine solo. I think that's what we see now.
In the reports from last night I've seen our pool missed even 20 blocks in a row (like 3,3 hour) so someone else got those blocks.
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Indeed, 50% feels like a lot but it't only for the lucky mn right, not devided over MN like a pool?
Especially since you can also run a miner on the same machine so there is no need to have a dedicated server.
We have 58 MN.
Every 10(?) minutes a block is mined.
So 144 blocks per day spread over 58 mn: would mean that each MN would get 2 blocks at leasts per day.
Which is 11.000 coins.
which is a lot more then a miner would get even with a lot of servers and has power running....
Or do I misunderstood something?
I understand the pool fee and it's fine for now but it also scares people away and they go mine solo which effectively makes the pool less performing and the payout to pool members is lower.
Which in turn can lead more people into mine solo...
But we get more and more miners on the pool and apparently more solo miners which means the coin is getting better known.
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We are designed for 7 min block targets, 202 blocks per day, 202 masternode payments per day.
The ROI on the masternode will decrease as more people buy them. Its a self fulfilling prophecy that ROI will end up hovering around 25% on a small coin like ours, and 10% for a big coin like Dash, meaning we are going to have 200 masternodes, eventually.
As more join in, the payments get divided over more and more masternodes, fulfilling the decreasing ROI. Right now the roi is something like 400% for a sanctuary, rediculously high, and that will cause more people to invest in them over the next 60 days.
December 31, 2017, 03:28:27 PM
So for the realists out there:
20% for our budgets from each block - and 100% of our charity goes to orphans with no overhead
Of the remaining 80%: 50% to miner, 50% to sanctuary if Solo mining
If pool mining: 50% to sanctuary, ~45% to miner over the long term <- this is more realistic, temporarily 50/33 for a couple days
If pool mining @ minersofmen: 50%, 50% (If minersofmen is up?)
And I catch your drift, if you want to work with Gross numbers:
Out of a 14000 BBP block, a miner receives 40% of the block NET counting all possible deductions (budget,pool fees,sanctuary share everything), and today-tempoarily receives 33% of the block counting high pool fees (as of today). Count on that 33% rising over the next 40 days back up to 39% of the block.
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Thanks Rob,
Not that I think it's unfair, but it's better to give good amounts of all fees and rewards.
Everywhere u read different value's. Just make one place where u update all information so it's clear for everyone.
Besides that... I think 50% for a masternode is already high. From start it was 10% masternode 80% miner.
If u lower more from the miners they might leave ofcourse.
The pool is good, but with higher fees people just might make a own pool or mine solo. I think that's what we see now.
In the reports from last night I've seen our pool missed even 20 blocks in a row (like 3,3 hour) so someone else got those blocks.
[/quote]
Indeed, 50% feels like a lot but it't only for the lucky mn right, not devided over MN like a pool?
Especially since you can also run a miner on the same machine so there is no need to have a dedicated server.
We have 58 MN.
Every 10(?) minutes a block is mined.
So 144 blocks per day spread over 58 mn: would mean that each MN would get 2 blocks at leasts per day.
Which is 11.000 coins.
which is a lot more then a miner would get even with a lot of servers and has power running....
Or do I misunderstood something?
I understand the pool fee and it's fine for now but it also scares people away and they go mine solo which effectively makes the pool less performing and the payout to pool members is lower.
Which in turn can lead more people into mine solo...
But we get more and more miners on the pool and apparently more solo miners which means the coin is getting better known.
December 31, 2017, 02:54:04 PM
why isnt rewards numbers blocks/numbers MN .... by me lucky/random rewarding isnt transparency
205blocks for 24hours / numbers of MN this style is fair for all MN ..
can be that 1MN get 30-40% all rewards still?
1.auto-payout= i see that i can automatic payments= can i press that button?
thanks
205blocks for 24hours / numbers of MN this style is fair for all MN ..
can be that 1MN get 30-40% all rewards still?
1.auto-payout= i see that i can automatic payments= can i press that button?
thanks
The MN payout structure should over time work itself out for the most part. I really would have rather seen the DASH style of winner selection since 1) It's already been in production for quite a while and for the most part works and 2) In the early days of the coin it would work out the statistical variation better. However, this coin is trying out a lot of things and in the end, I'm pretty sure it will even out. Just in the short term it really is sub-optimal for some which is a shame as the rewards are the highest they'll ever be.
We do have the dash features; they started out the same way- random for one cycle, then everyone is paid in order- we do exactly the same.
I may have misunderstood the DASH MN system, but there are still times when one MN gets two consecutive payments. So they end up ahead of the pack.
December 31, 2017, 01:48:02 PM
why isnt rewards numbers blocks/numbers MN .... by me lucky/random rewarding isnt transparency
205blocks for 24hours / numbers of MN this style is fair for all MN ..
can be that 1MN get 30-40% all rewards still?
1.auto-payout= i see that i can automatic payments= can i press that button?
thanks
205blocks for 24hours / numbers of MN this style is fair for all MN ..
can be that 1MN get 30-40% all rewards still?
1.auto-payout= i see that i can automatic payments= can i press that button?
thanks
The MN payout structure should over time work itself out for the most part. I really would have rather seen the DASH style of winner selection since 1) It's already been in production for quite a while and for the most part works and 2) In the early days of the coin it would work out the statistical variation better. However, this coin is trying out a lot of things and in the end, I'm pretty sure it will even out. Just in the short term it really is sub-optimal for some which is a shame as the rewards are the highest they'll ever be.
We do have the dash features; they started out the same way- random for one cycle, then everyone is paid in order- we do exactly the same.
December 31, 2017, 01:45:37 PM
why isnt rewards numbers blocks/numbers MN .... by me lucky/random rewarding isnt transparency
205blocks for 24hours / numbers of MN this style is fair for all MN ..
can be that 1MN get 30-40% all rewards still?
1.auto-payout= i see that i can automatic payments= can i press that button?
thanks
205blocks for 24hours / numbers of MN this style is fair for all MN ..
can be that 1MN get 30-40% all rewards still?
1.auto-payout= i see that i can automatic payments= can i press that button?
thanks
You can push the button, but it wont start for a couple days.
Ill let you guys address the sanctuaries question, its a very fair system.
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