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Quote from: BitLinkInvestments on August 28, 2016, 04:39:40 PM

This is 100% true I predict by the end of 2017 the US will witness one of the largest economic crashes of all time.

I don't believe that it is going to happen and either to come with bitcoin. But maybe if that is going to happen with the economy of US then the USD is going to be affected at all and since the value of bitcoin is depending on the price of USD. Then value of bitcoin is going to be affected. But let's be positive that it is not going to happen.

But there are some analysis predicted that if Republican wins the election then US may face bigger economic issues in next year. It may be true because if Democrats win the election then the current policies laid out by current government will continue and the economy will also improve. If government change doesn't know how it will change the current policies and it amy affect the growth of US economy.

If Trump wins the economy crashes almost immediately in anticipation of an end to the FEDs easy money policies. If Hillary wins the market keeps setting ATHs confident in knowing rates won't go up and more QE will be supplied. The real economy (those who produce things of value) is already contracting, the volume in stock markets is continually declining, and bonds are already returning negative yields in much of the world. Trump=Greater Depression and economic collapse, Hillary= Hyper inflationary economic combustion along the lines of Venezuela or Zimbabwe.

Its kind of funny, for a community so hyper alert to the preponderance of ponzi schemes many bitcoiners don't seem to notice the giant one staring them in the face.

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Quote from: BitLinkInvestments on August 28, 2016, 04:39:40 PM

This is 100% true I predict by the end of 2017 the US will witness one of the largest economic crashes of all time.

I don't believe that it is going to happen and either to come with bitcoin. But maybe if that is going to happen with the economy of US then the USD is going to be affected at all and since the value of bitcoin is depending on the price of USD. Then value of bitcoin is going to be affected. But let's be positive that it is not going to happen.

But there are some analysis predicted that if Republican wins the election then US may face bigger economic issues in next year. It may be true because if Democrats win the election then the current policies laid out by current government will continue and the economy will also improve. If government change doesn't know how it will change the current policies and it amy affect the growth of US economy.

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Quote from: BitLinkInvestments on August 28, 2016, 04:39:40 PM

This is 100% true I predict by the end of 2017 the US will witness one of the largest economic crashes of all time.

I don't believe that it is going to happen and either to come with bitcoin. But maybe if that is going to happen with the economy of US then the USD is going to be affected at all and since the value of bitcoin is depending on the price of USD. Then value of bitcoin is going to be affected. But let's be positive that it is not going to happen.

first of all things that can affected to bitcoin price are not depends on the US dollar price ,
there are many factors that can make bitcoin going up and down ,
the most affected factor are about supply and demand ,
the big crash will happened only if there is market manipulation, fiat crisis and no investor interest at same time.

Very true, not only usd would affect but all circumstances that affects the supply and demand same as you said. Big crash would happen if theres an economic crises of all holders of huge amount of bitcoin or investors. and also if no one already buy bitcoin for sure it would crash to the bottom.

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Deutsche Bank, Monte Pasci and many others are going down and they will take a lot of non-EU banks with them, Janet will start QE4 before she ever raises rates again. The whole damn world has gone insolvent and whether the "crisis" begins the day after the U.S. election or sometime later in 2017 is a matter of debate, but its coming and its going to be ugly. Get ready for the "Everything Bubble".

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Quote from: kotwica666 on August 28, 2016, 11:48:57 PM

Quote from: BitLinkInvestments on August 28, 2016, 04:39:40 PM

This is 100% true I predict by the end of 2017 the US will witness one of the largest economic crashes of all time.

I don't believe that it is going to happen and either to come with bitcoin. But maybe if that is going to happen with the economy of US then the USD is going to be affected at all and since the value of bitcoin is depending on the price of USD. Then value of bitcoin is going to be affected. But let's be positive that it is not going to happen.

It will not be crush as you predict.. Check what is going on with Deutsche Bank and you will see first steps to big black hole that they made.. America will stay on Oil but Europeans Banks will goes down.. Greece, now Italia, next will be Germany.. they are strong but on credit.. GB is already out.. France shortly will understand that is catching wrong way and will say thank you Merkel! It will be one - maybe two years.. Buy Bitcoin, and fuck the politics!

I have heard rumors that Deutsche Bank is not doing quite well now, but nothing substantial beyond this. Could you expand more on what is happening to it (in a few words), or give a link to a piece telling more? Regarding the fate of the EU, it was yet another attempt at restoring the Roman Empire. GB falling off fits well into the last days of it...

Remember the Thousand-Year Reich?

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Quote from: BitLinkInvestments on August 28, 2016, 04:39:40 PM

This is 100% true I predict by the end of 2017 the US will witness one of the largest economic crashes of all time.

I don't believe that it is going to happen and either to come with bitcoin. But maybe if that is going to happen with the economy of US then the USD is going to be affected at all and since the value of bitcoin is depending on the price of USD. Then value of bitcoin is going to be affected. But let's be positive that it is not going to happen.

first of all things that can affected to bitcoin price are not depends on the US dollar price ,
there are many factors that can make bitcoin going up and down ,
the most affected factor are about supply and demand ,
the big crash will happened only if there is market manipulation, fiat crisis and no investor interest at same time.

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Quote from: BitLinkInvestments on August 28, 2016, 04:39:40 PM

This is 100% true I predict by the end of 2017 the US will witness one of the largest economic crashes of all time.

I don't believe that it is going to happen and either to come with bitcoin. But maybe if that is going to happen with the economy of US then the USD is going to be affected at all and since the value of bitcoin is depending on the price of USD. Then value of bitcoin is going to be affected. But let's be positive that it is not going to happen.

It will not be crush as you predict.. Check what is going on with Deutsche Bank and you will see first steps to big black hole that they made.. America will stay on Oil but Europeans Banks will goes down.. Greece, now Italia, next will be Germany.. they are strong but on credit.. GB is already out.. France shortly will understand that is catching wrong way and will say thank you Merkel! It will be one - maybe two years.. Buy Bitcoin, and fuck the politics!

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This is 100% true I predict by the end of 2017 the US will witness one of the largest economic crashes of all time.

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crash is definitely not going to happen any time soon at least i hope for it

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Quote from: deisik on August 28, 2016, 05:51:05 AM

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Quote from: Shiroslullaby on August 27, 2016, 02:09:55 PM

If you have some extra cash and don't mind sitting on it, BTC is probably still a pretty safe investment.
I don't think there will be any huge crash. Even the recent BitFinex hack only caused a little bit of damage

The price had started moving south even before the Bitfinex hack happened. It might have added somewhat to this downward trend when it just happened (that long red candle down to $465 at Bitstamp), but it was neither the cause of it, nor did it seriously accelerate it at the end of the day...

In any case, 120,000 bitcoins instantaneously withdrawn from trading is not something to sneeze at

It's a monstrous amount for sure. However, it's funny that the theft of around $68 million resulted in the market cap to drop with a few $ billion. It took us so long to build it up, and it takes a few minutes to break it down....

It was more like a knee-jerk reaction. But without doubt someone had profited from it handsomely (and I don't mean thieves). Besides that, I don't think that the price would be much different right now if there had been no Bitfinex hack at all...

If the stolen coins never enter trading again (for whatever reason), the hack could actually prop up the price in the long run

The price was indeed due for a drop, but I am however not sure if it would take the price to below $600 levels. Even if the coins stay untouched for at least a few years, then it's also good. Less circulating coins means less potential selling pressure on the market. Did Bitfinex publicly share the addresses where the stolen coins have gone to?

I don't know if this information is publicly available. Rumors have surfaced that it was an inside job or even a successful scam attempt. As I got it, Bitfinex is operating right now (I was able to login to my old account and asked for a password reset). It seems that they are following the steps of Bter after it was hacked in February, 2015, i.e. promising to repay the hacker victims later on in full...

But Bter never lived up to their promises, and by now it has become a miserable and despicable shadow of its former self

I am also suspecting an inside job. Especially because of how tight they are on any kind of information that might help to trace the coins. They offer a reward of $3.6 million for the person that can make the coins come back to where they belong, but that will be a damn hard job without them handing over at least the addresses of where the coins have gone to. That would be the first step for people to possibly get a glimpse of where these coins are heading to. Bitfinex knows exactly what it is doing. They are probably hiding behind the excuses of that it isn't allowed to be handing over address details because of ongoing investigations. Then what's the point of this $3.6 million reward. This just smells.

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Quote from: Ayers on August 26, 2016, 11:52:08 AM

Quote from: jvper on August 26, 2016, 11:35:43 AM

Low rates lead to highly speculative decisions. This is a bomb being armed. I believe FED and other central banks are well aware of that.

do you think they will try to stop it? are bank still in competition with bitcoin, or they are just ging to work on their blockchain? i hope bitcoin can recover from the last crash and be stronger than ever

nothing will stop it if the price of the bitcoin started crashing, and it might be impossible to avoid it if the crash is going to be really fast, that would be disastrous

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Quote from: deisik on August 28, 2016, 05:51:05 AM

Quote from: 1Referee on August 28, 2016, 05:42:38 AM

Quote from: 1Referee on August 28, 2016, 04:05:20 AM

Quote from: Shiroslullaby on August 27, 2016, 02:09:55 PM

If you have some extra cash and don't mind sitting on it, BTC is probably still a pretty safe investment.
I don't think there will be any huge crash. Even the recent BitFinex hack only caused a little bit of damage

The price had started moving south even before the Bitfinex hack happened. It might have added somewhat to this downward trend when it just happened (that long red candle down to $465 at Bitstamp), but it was neither the cause of it, nor did it seriously accelerate it at the end of the day...

In any case, 120,000 bitcoins instantaneously withdrawn from trading is not something to sneeze at

It's a monstrous amount for sure. However, it's funny that the theft of around $68 million resulted in the market cap to drop with a few $ billion. It took us so long to build it up, and it takes a few minutes to break it down....

It was more like a knee-jerk reaction. But without doubt someone had profited from it handsomely (and I don't mean thieves). Besides that, I don't think that the price would be much different right now if there had been no Bitfinex hack at all...

If the stolen coins never enter trading again (for whatever reason), the hack could actually prop up the price in the long run

The price was indeed due for a drop, but I am however not sure if it would take the price to below $600 levels. Even if the coins stay untouched for at least a few years, then it's also good. Less circulating coins means less potential selling pressure on the market. Did Bitfinex publicly share the addresses where the stolen coins have gone to?

I don't know if this information is publicly available. Rumors have surfaced that it was an inside job or even a successful scam attempt. As I got it, Bitfinex is operating right now (I was able to login to my old account and asked for a password reset). It seems that they are following the steps of Bter when it was hacked in February, 2015, i.e. promising to repay the hackery victims later on in full...

But Bter never lived up to their promises, and by now it has become a miserable and despicable shadow of its former self

Thats the big problem bitfinex were running for a while, why the hacker has attacked just now and just took a part of the coins, anwway almost all people do you it were a inside job made, i dont believe they can recover really, who will trade their knowing what happened already? I dont believe bitcoin price can go down, but it should keep growing and soon hit again the 600 dollars and find support to keep there.

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Quote from: 1Referee on August 28, 2016, 05:42:38 AM

Quote from: 1Referee on August 28, 2016, 04:05:20 AM

Quote from: Shiroslullaby on August 27, 2016, 02:09:55 PM

If you have some extra cash and don't mind sitting on it, BTC is probably still a pretty safe investment.
I don't think there will be any huge crash. Even the recent BitFinex hack only caused a little bit of damage

The price had started moving south even before the Bitfinex hack happened. It might have added somewhat to this downward trend when it just happened (that long red candle down to $465 at Bitstamp), but it was neither the cause of it, nor did it seriously accelerate it at the end of the day...

In any case, 120,000 bitcoins instantaneously withdrawn from trading is not something to sneeze at

It's a monstrous amount for sure. However, it's funny that the theft of around $68 million resulted in the market cap to drop with a few $ billion. It took us so long to build it up, and it takes a few minutes to break it down....

It was more like a knee-jerk reaction. But without doubt someone had profited from it handsomely (and I don't mean thieves). Besides that, I don't think that the price would be much different right now if there had been no Bitfinex hack at all...

If the stolen coins never enter trading again (for whatever reason), the hack could actually prop up the price in the long run

The price was indeed due for a drop, but I am however not sure if it would take the price to below $600 levels. Even if the coins stay untouched for at least a few years, then it's also good. Less circulating coins means less potential selling pressure on the market. Did Bitfinex publicly share the addresses where the stolen coins have gone to?

I don't know if this information is publicly available. Rumors have surfaced that it was an inside job or even a successful scam attempt. As I got it, Bitfinex is operating right now (I was able to login to my old account and asked for a password reset). It seems that they are following the steps of Bter after it was hacked in February, 2015, i.e. promising to repay the hacker victims later on in full...

But Bter never lived up to their promises, and by now it has become a miserable and despicable shadow of its former self

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Quote from: 1Referee on August 28, 2016, 04:05:20 AM

Quote from: Shiroslullaby on August 27, 2016, 02:09:55 PM

If you have some extra cash and don't mind sitting on it, BTC is probably still a pretty safe investment.
I don't think there will be any huge crash. Even the recent BitFinex hack only caused a little bit of damage

The price had started moving south even before the Bitfinex hack happened. It might have added somewhat to this downward trend when it just happened (that long red candle down to $465 at Bitstamp), but it was neither the cause of it, nor did it seriously accelerate it at the end of the day...

In any case, 120,000 bitcoins instantaneously withdrawn from trading is not something to sneeze at

It's a monstrous amount for sure. However, it's funny that the theft of around $68 million resulted in the market cap to drop with a few $ billion. It took us so long to build it up, and it takes a few minutes to break it down....

It was more like a knee-jerk reaction. But without doubt someone had profited from it handsomely (and I don't mean thieves). Besides that, I don't think that the price would be much different right now if there had been no Bitfinex hack at all...

If the stolen coins never enter trading again (for whatever reason), the hack could actually prop up the price in the long run

The price was indeed due for a drop, but I am however not sure if it would take the price to below $600 levels. Even if the coins stay untouched for at least a few years, then it's also good. Less circulating coins means less potential selling pressure on the market. Did Bitfinex publicly share the addresses where the stolen coins have gone to?

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Quote from: 1Referee on August 28, 2016, 04:05:20 AM

Quote from: Shiroslullaby on August 27, 2016, 02:09:55 PM

If you have some extra cash and don't mind sitting on it, BTC is probably still a pretty safe investment.
I don't think there will be any huge crash. Even the recent BitFinex hack only caused a little bit of damage

The price had started moving south even before the Bitfinex hack happened. It might have added somewhat to this downward trend when it just happened (that long red candle down to $465 at Bitstamp), but it was neither the cause of it, nor did it seriously accelerate it at the end of the day...

In any case, 120,000 bitcoins instantaneously withdrawn from trading is not something to sneeze at

It's a monstrous amount for sure. However, it's funny that the theft of around $68 million resulted in the market cap to drop with a few $ billion. It took us so long to build it up, and it takes a few minutes to break it down....

It was more like a knee-jerk reaction. But without doubt someone had profited from it handsomely (and I don't mean thieves). Besides that, I don't think that the price would be much different right now if there had been no Bitfinex hack at all...

If the stolen coins never enter trading again (for whatever reason), the hack could actually prop up the price in the long run

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