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Topic: Big: Donald Trump claims Obama spyied him, claims this is Watergate-level event - page 3. (Read 2741 times)

legendary
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Again, fuck the Clintons. For some reason, conservative think we put her (or them) in that hallowed, Christ-like place that the dim put Trump. If she fucked up, lock her up. But don't have ignore the orange elephant in the room.

Well, you know that there has been continual efforts to find shit that sticks on the Orange, and that goes back all the way into the Republican debates.

Good luck with that.  Easy enough to wait and see how it turns out.  I'd lay my money on the sleazy little Bamster doing the wire tapping.  Meanwhile you'd like some dirt on the Orange.  Why?  Why bother?

He might do some good things, and you've already shown no respect for the Clintons, so this is what we got...

I'll tell you what to expect.  The gangster Democroaks and their Saudi friends are going to go all out to try to win a couple of seats back in the House and the Senate in 2018.  That's what all this sleaze is really about.

LOL, you may notice that Saudi Arabia was not included in the travel ban, despite being one of the greatest sources of extremist. Seems like he may have a few Saudi friends as well.

Why do I want a possible treason committed by the POTUS to be exposed? Guess I'm just old fashioned.

And how much do you respect ole Bamster? Should I read your posting history? Because I think we would all know what we would find. Take your lumps lIke a man, like we did.

And why am I supposed to be kissing Clinton ass again? I have issues with her as well. Its just, she never said she was gonna grab anyone by the pussy. And then get elected. And then fuck it all up.

Now maybe Bill might have grabbed some pussy. I'd put money on that.

And yall are fucked in '18 Smiley

Have you checked the odds on 45 getting impeached?

Bigly.
legendary
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Again, fuck the Clintons. For some reason, conservative think we put her (or them) in that hallowed, Christ-like place that the dim put Trump. If she fucked up, lock her up. But don't have ignore the orange elephant in the room.

Well, you know that there has been continual efforts to find shit that sticks on the Orange, and that goes back all the way into the Republican debates.

Good luck with that.  Easy enough to wait and see how it turns out.  I'd lay my money on the sleazy little Bamster doing the wire tapping.  Meanwhile you'd like some dirt on the Orange.  Why?  Why bother?

He might do some good things, and you've already shown no respect for the Clintons, so this is what we got...

I'll tell you what to expect.  The gangster Democroaks and their Saudi friends are going to go all out to try to win a couple of seats back in the House and the Senate in 2018.  That's what all this sleaze is really about.
legendary
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To hell with Weiner courting little girls. I wanna hear about Trump getting pissed on.

Alot of us can give a flying fuck about the Clintons. She was a shitty candidate. We could give fewer fucks because ultimately, she didn't win. So much easier and more important to focus on the fucked up stuff our actual, elected president is doing. Weiner is a pervert. This, isn't even debatable at this point.

Weiner was made a scapegoat, to protect the reputation of the Clinton crime family. All he was doing was to recruit young girls to "service" the Clintons. It is well known that both Hillary and Bill have a weakness for minor girls.

Ah damn. You are one of those PizzaGate guys.

Let me tell you a secret. Really rich people do perverse shit, because they can.

Also, are we really gonna deny the small army of females that claimed the president sexually assaulted them? I wasn't going to bring it up, because it honestly doesn't reflect on the current shitshow, and it is unproven. There is enough to point out without bringing conjecture into it. Like saying that a surrogate wrangles pussy for a former president and his wife.

Good old number 45. The first president with rape charges.

This is going great, guys.

Again, fuck the Clintons. For some reason, conservative think we put her (or them) in that hallowed, Christ-like place that the dim put Trump. If she fucked up, lock her up. But don't have ignore the orange elephant in the room.
legendary
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To hell with Weiner courting little girls. I wanna hear about Trump getting pissed on.

Alot of us can give a flying fuck about the Clintons. She was a shitty candidate. We could give fewer fucks because ultimately, she didn't win. So much easier and more important to focus on the fucked up stuff our actual, elected president is doing. Weiner is a pervert. This, isn't even debatable at this point.

Weiner was made a scapegoat, to protect the reputation of the Clinton crime family. All he was doing was to recruit young girls to "service" the Clintons. It is well known that both Hillary and Bill have a weakness for minor girls.
legendary
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This is the same Comey that fucked the free world when he opened his mouth to talk about Hillary and those goddamned emails ,(to a moderate or liberal, hear about those goddamned emails is akin to the frustration a Trump supporter feels when Russia is mentioned). So, that we have established Comey has no love for the Clinton's, what have we to say about this?
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$10 says that if Comey didn't to this very minimal and fairly appropriate thing, the 650k pieces of 'content' from Weiner's laptop would have made it into the wild for a broader audience to analyze.  Hopefully at some point 'we, the people' will still get a chance to judge whether that content is or is not 'relevant' to our leadership choices...to the extent that we have many real choices in this respect.

I personally am pretty consistent.  I would like to see all the material on the 'Russia connection' no matter who it involved.  So would at least Roger Stone who is implicated by the media.  I doubt that much would be found, and probably nothing of any real consequence relative to the Trump campaign effort.  A fair bit more about other operatives who have been in power over the last few cycles I would bet.

As for the Weiner material, I suspect that it is at least a rich vein off the mother lode of material used to blackmail a fair number of those with influence in DC.  That I would dearly love to peruse, and I would expect it to change the face of U.S. politics and policy for a long time to come if it is released.  And change it for the better from a Joe Citizen point of view.



To hell with Weiner courting little girls. I wanna hear about Trump getting pissed on.

Alot of us can give a flying fuck about the Clintons. She was a shitty candidate. We could give fewer fucks because ultimately, she didn't win. So much easier and more important to focus on the fucked up stuff our actual, elected president is doing. Weiner is a pervert. This, isn't even debatable at this point.
legendary
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This is the same Comey that fucked the free world when he opened his mouth to talk about Hillary and those goddamned emails ,(to a moderate or liberal, hear about those goddamned emails is akin to the frustration a Trump supporter feels when Russia is mentioned). So, that we have established Comey has no love for the Clinton's, what have we to say about this?
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$10 says that if Comey didn't to this very minimal and fairly appropriate thing, the 650k pieces of 'content' from Weiner's laptop would have made it into the wild for a broader audience to analyze.  Hopefully at some point 'we, the people' will still get a chance to judge whether that content is or is not 'relevant' to our leadership choices...to the extent that we have many real choices in this respect.

I personally am pretty consistent.  I would like to see all the material on the 'Russia connection' no matter who it involved.  So would at least Roger Stone who is implicated by the media.  I doubt that much would be found, and probably nothing of any real consequence relative to the Trump campaign effort.  A fair bit more about other operatives who have been in power over the last few cycles I would bet.

As for the Weiner material, I suspect that it is at least a rich vein off the mother lode of material used to blackmail a fair number of those with influence in DC.  That I would dearly love to peruse, and I would expect it to change the face of U.S. politics and policy for a long time to come if it is released.  And change it for the better from a Joe Citizen point of view.

legendary
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Spendulus, thanks for rehashing everything in the Conservative Tree House article. I'm glad you shared a source.

The additional concern I have is that this article doesn't actually provide an facts proving that Obama's White House issued an order to wire tap Trump. Your article says that this happened, and your article references a second article that says that this happened, but neither article references a source from a government agent or agency or anything that would resemble fact in a court to prove that the order was made.

These articles are just regurgitating the speculation, and speculation upon speculation or hearsay upon hearsay is still just hearsay.

Find me the article that proves Obama's FISA request to wire tap Trump. I'm not talking about another article that just says that it happened, but real proof. A statement from a government agency, a statement from a government official.

You gotta stop believing stuff just because it's online in some article or blog. Would you believe "Trump wire tapped Hillary during the election" if it came out on CNN.com? No.

Do you read anything but the tweets? Trump never has evidence, nothing ever comes forth. Trump talks shit and never has any serious action to back it up.....

Really?  Here 'ya go.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/03/the-shadow-government-timeline/

In summary: the Obama administration sought, and eventually obtained, authorization to eavesdrop on the Trump campaign; continued monitoring the Trump team even when no evidence of wrongdoing was found; t
I see where you are going there. 

You'd like to see an email or a recorded call from Obama to Dept. of Justice on the matter. 

Has it occurred to you that the DOJ was certainly part of the Obama administration?  I don't have a problem with a couple of remarks by Obama in the hallway with someone in DOJ being the cause of this.
legendary
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When it was Trump or Clinton the American public decided we may as well get a show out of it.
In the end both candidates are still terrible.
Either way it would not surprise me of Obama tapped Trump tower but the government denies the fact well just another story to munch popcorn for.

Obama has done it even before the POTUS elections, and I have no doubt that he might have done something similar to Trump. He was quite desperate to have a Democrat successor.
legendary
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/05/politics/fbi-justice-wiretapping-claim/index.html?adkey=bn

So, Comey himself is trying to quash #45s claims of being tapped by the former president. Mostly because it's bullshit, but partially because it makes the GOP, and himself, look bad.

This is the same Comey that fucked the free world when he opened his mouth to talk about Hillary and those goddamned emails ,(to a moderate or liberal, hear about those goddamned emails is akin to the frustration a Trump supporter feels when Russia is mentioned). So, that we have established Comey has no love for the Clinton's, what have we to say about this?

My president is orange.
Orange is the new black Smiley
legendary
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When it was Trump or Clinton the American public decided we may as well get a show out of it.
In the end both candidates are still terrible.
Either way it would not surprise me if Obama tapped Trump tower but the government denies the fact well just another story to munch popcorn for.
legendary
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I just hope this is not TRUE.

Tony Blair denies he wants to be Trump's Middle East envoy | Politics ...
https://www.theguardian.com › World › Tony Blair
13 hours ago - Spokeswoman for former British PM rubbishes reports after meeting with US president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner.

Tony Blair denies report he was offered job as Trump's Middle East ...
www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas › US politics
15 hours ago - Tony Blair has dismissed a report he is in talks to become an adviser to US President Donald Trump as "an invention". ... The Mail on Sunday reported Mr Blair wanted to become a Middle East peace envoy for the President. ... Mr Blair has made no such ‘pitch’ to be the President‘s .


Who ever works with that guy is an ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE.. Angry Angry.

So to MR TRUMP .Don't even bother or your just the same as them all..

A robbing lying lining his own pockets politician  Kiss

Not good for us peoples..

Now instead of PING PONG politics  ..Get the peoples areas built and create the jobs.TIME IS TICKING.

PLEASE keep tony blair away from politics ..

HE CAN FUCK WENDY DENG IF HE WANTS TOO..BUT keep him away from our lives FAR AWAY..

Also you keep going on about leaks..ALWAYS GOING TO BE LEAKS ..SO GET USED TO IT Grin..

The people will be informed about situations that will affect us all and nothing you can do about it..

BIG BROTHER IS NOT JUST IN THE PEOPLES LIVES IT'S IN EVERY ONES LIVES. Cheesy Cheesy.

Government likes to spy on the people ..The people will spy on the government..

How do you think you won MR TRUMP.   .The people spying on CLINTON.

And you even asked for it..So no complaining when things come out about you or your people..

Private things will not get published .Anything to do with our lives will..

YOU DON'T THINK WE CAN ALLOW OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO BE KILLED FOR NO REASON?..

We don't die to line some persons pockets ..We die to line all our pockets..


1 trillion on infrastructure..Nice just lets hope it's true..Will be watching though..
next 6 months roads should be getting done in your american areas ..

If not WHAT A FUCKING LIAR  Angry..
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Spendulus, thanks for rehashing everything in the Conservative Tree House article. I'm glad you shared a source.

The additional concern I have is that this article doesn't actually provide an facts proving that Obama's White House issued an order to wire tap Trump. Your article says that this happened, and your article references a second article that says that this happened, but neither article references a source from a government agent or agency or anything that would resemble fact in a court to prove that the order was made.

These articles are just regurgitating the speculation, and speculation upon speculation or hearsay upon hearsay is still just hearsay.

Find me the article that proves Obama's FISA request to wire tap Trump. I'm not talking about another article that just says that it happened, but real proof. A statement from a government agency, a statement from a government official.

You gotta stop believing stuff just because it's online in some article or blog. Would you believe "Trump wire tapped Hillary during the election" if it came out on CNN.com? No.

Do you read anything but the tweets? Trump never has evidence, nothing ever comes forth. Trump talks shit and never has any serious action to back it up.....

Really?  Here 'ya go.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/03/the-shadow-government-timeline/

In summary: the Obama administration sought, and eventually obtained, authorization to eavesdrop on the Trump campaign; continued monitoring the Trump team even when no evidence of wrongdoing was found; t
legendary
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Y'all do know the judge had to have probable cause to issue that warrant, right? And they rejected the warrant twice before they accepted it?

And if all this is true, if Obama did do it, why is there so much outrage at a criminal investigation into some seemingly criminal shit, that was criminal enough on the surface for a federal judge to be like "No, Naw, wait, hot damn! Maybe you should check this out!". Aren't investigations supposed to be about uncovering the truth? And if there is nothing to hide, then what's the issue, friends?

The truth will set you free. Or get you locked up for treason.

legendary
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Let me get this straight.

So you are saying that the head of the executive branch, not the judicial branch (with Mr. 'Let's Investigate' Comey), which would be the only arm of government that would be able to do this legally (and this was legal, because a judge approved it) ordered this survellience? A hostile judge, which denied the request twice (this is very uncommon), was asked by the FBI. The same FBI that kept us awake at night behind some silly ass emails, and that initially refused to investigate Trussia.

 Sounds like, to me, if a judge granted said warrant, after two attempts, (which was specifically targeted at a server that was being used to communicate with Russia, beyond the shadow of a doubt), that maybe, just maybe, there might be something to investigate? ....

You mean the server that the FBI said they found nothing on?

That contradicts what you've said, doesn't it?

How so?

When did the FBI investigate the server, which they can't do without a court order, before they investigated the server? This only happened once. With a court order. You do also know that no one in the White House can order this, right? This is a function if the legislative branch. Your friend Comey (who is certainly a friend of Trump) had to authorize this, given the level of the investigation (foreign intelligence).

So why are Trump's friends looking through his shit?

And the last time I checked, they were still looking  Wink

And again, can you point out how I've contradicted myself?

I'm sorry you hated Obummer. But he really doesn't have the power to do what has been accused. It's not his job, he honestly wouldn't even be aware of this unless he was briefed. The FBI would have had to do this, as, you know, it's their job. Our president is in bed with the Russians, I am sorry this is a bitter pill to swallow. As hard as it is for you, it's even worse for the rest of us, because we didn't vote for this backwoods bastard. We are having to eat shit pie with the rest of America. Kinda like it must have felt under Obama.

Now if this was a drone strike, oh yeah, Obama did it. Put the fucking D in drone strike, if you ask me.
legendary
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"The cardinal rule of the Obama administration was the fact that no official White house never interfered with any investigation under the supervision of the Ministry of justice. As part of the practice, neither President Obama nor any White house official, never gave orders to conduct surveillance of any citizen of the United States. Other claims are simply false." This was stated on Saturday in an official statement, the press Secretary of Barack Obama, Kevin Lewis

Sounds official. Even if they tapped some phones, which isn't unlikely, one cannot blurt out about that throwing accusations because it will become a tough job to prove anything. No evidence, case closed.
The wiser approach would have been to enjoy victory above Clinton and leave those nasty details unmentioned.

At least someone on the forum understands that the people in the Obama administration REALLY thought that they had the election in the bag and they really didn't think they'd have to be facing any oversight from Trump due to the fact of the high chances put forward by pollsters of a Clinton presidency.

I'm not saying that I fully believe that claims made by Trump, as there really is no evidence relating to it yet. I say yet because I feel that their is a chance that this is all true and revelations will come out in coming weeks relating to it.

Any claims by the press Secretary of Obama, Kevin Lewis are simply just going to deny anything simply on the fact that they wouldn't want to give light to anything along these lines.
legendary
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Let me get this straight.

So you are saying that the head of the executive branch, not the judicial branch (with Mr. 'Let's Investigate' Comey), which would be the only arm of government that would be able to do this legally (and this was legal, because a judge approved it) ordered this survellience? A hostile judge, which denied the request twice (this is very uncommon), was asked by the FBI. The same FBI that kept us awake at night behind some silly ass emails, and that initially refused to investigate Trussia.

 Sounds like, to me, if a judge granted said warrant, after two attempts, (which was specifically targeted at a server that was being used to communicate with Russia, beyond the shadow of a doubt), that maybe, just maybe, there might be something to investigate? ....

You mean the server that the FBI said they found nothing on?

That contradicts what you've said, doesn't it?
legendary
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I wouldn't be surprised if Trump got spyied, after all, the NSA are world class at getting inside everyone's private communications. Nontheless, Trump's credibility is at all time lows right now. I can't believe anything he says without solid proof, and im not seeing anything yet beyond some Alex Jones tier conspiracy "facts".
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The funniest thing in all this, to me at least, is the mentioning of Russia.
Russia if you're listening, it was the russians hackers and so on Cheesy I don't know why Clinton and Obama are so worried about possible Russian threat, we are no longer living in Cold War time!
It you do not live. And what has changed? If you're not a Russian Troll, tell me. That Russia has become less aggressive? Or Russia suddenly become loving Americans? They were even Americans are not called, there is a special derogatory word. Now is the time to think about hot war!
legendary
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The funniest thing in all this, to me at least, is the mentioning of Russia.
Russia if you're listening, it was the russians hackers and so on Cheesy I don't know why Clinton and Obama are so worried about possible Russian threat, we are no longer living in Cold War time!

Can you point out another time in the history of the world were a foreign actor has used state resources to influence an American Democratic function? I'll wait.

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Yeah, about that. No.

We are afraid of Muslims, but not the nuclear superpower that we have had a standoff with in the past? Esp one that is currently fucking with us?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/18/politics/russia-military-test-trump-administration/  *common sense alert - this is not fake news. If you take your news from Breitbart, prepare to have your mind blown with actual, provable facts. They don't make em like this anymore. Alternative facts and such.

So, this would be cool if the RNC got leaked? But the judicial branch ordering a warrant on an American presidential candidate that literally asked for the DNC, publically, to get hacked, that's weird? Because our presidents usually joking ask our Cold War enemies to do more Cold War-esque shit. Perfectly normal, what was I thinking? We will burn the fucking world to the ground in this attempt to make America great again (because we all missed the time when racist, bigoted and misogynistic people called the shots, only to the benefit of themselves).

legendary
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The funniest thing in all this, to me at least, is the mentioning of Russia.
Russia if you're listening, it was the russians hackers and so on Cheesy I don't know why Clinton and Obama are so worried about possible Russian threat, we are no longer living in Cold War time!
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