I am confused whether is this a list of online gambling casinos or a list of scam casinos. I can find most of the casinos in this list.
I was really shocked to see gambling sites such as BC.GAME and Duelbits on the scam gambling sites list.
It's tough to believe that this is a genuine list because I haven't heard of any scams from both of these reputed sites.
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I've gone through the list, and am totally confused whether or not to believe that every betting sites listed there are all scams, I know particularly of bet9ja, though I haven't done any research to know what people are saying about them online, but I know for sure that this platform is very popular in my country and I've never heard anyone complain of them not paying him or her their winning and anyone having any kind of withdrawal issues, in my country, people have won hundreds or millions through bet9ja, and theyve always paid, i dont know how they managed to get in that list.
I don't know why the admin did not include the reasons why those listed are scams, when checking in their submission page, you can see that you have to fill up the reason and information, it will be informative if the information is included.
That's questionable maybe one guy who loses his money on these sites wants to get even by reporting these three sites as scam casinos,
that's what I thought. relying on someone's report can be misleading since like you said the gambler might have lost and is blaming the gambling site for it. until the author of that list provides evidence to support the accusations that have been made. it is safe to say that the list is unreliable and should not be used as a reference on which gambling site is a scam or not. Yes, I will do the same as you as I see Duelbits is also on the list.
And as I mentioned already, we do not have to do anything related to that list because we already have our favourite gambling site that we used to gamble on before.
Maybe people new to gambling need to search for more information to know whether those lists are right.
It is better to have our own gambling site lists than to see the list from other people because we know what we choose.
Hard to file a libel case to an author who probably doesn't exist, his name is Robert Schreiber. But who knows this could just be a pseudo name which authors usually use a fictitious name. But they could contact the website. They have a long list of scam casinos which they don't even say how the casino scam.
Could this be a trick to just extort the casino owners in order for their website to be removed from the list?
^ Who knows that author using a real name.Could this be a trick to just extort the casino owners in order for their website to be removed from the list?
Possible that could be extortion, this also comes to my mind. But I don't think a gambling owner will pay attention to them especially if the casino owner knows that they had good deeds for their users or they know that they never scam someone. For now, I think the author of this casino need to contact and ask about the compilation list of scam casinos which there are some are not true.
No one will ever see this list by searching anyway. Unless someone will really search "Big online List of scam casinos" on google which I doubt there will be. For someone to list a casino that has not scammed anyone I think has a motive of doing so which probably is asking money from the casino owner for his casino link to be removed from the list.
I say he must have had success in extorting before this one. I have read some of the hotel reviews before which hotel owners are paying in order for the bad reviews taken out. Its same scam I believe.
Lol, after quickly scrolling on the list I saw duelbits, wolf.bet, and stake on the list. I wonder what kind of "investigation" they are doing to decide whether a gambling site is a scam or not. would have been nice to know the reason why the gambling sites on the list are considered a scam.
I don't think I can trust this list not because I'm part of the Stake.com campaign, but the three casinos mentioned do not have valid scam reports here in Bitcointalk and if there is it was already resolved, there are not even reason why these three casinos are included in the scam list, I've looked for 1XBIT they are not listed but only their sister company 1xBET, Bitcointalk scam section still has the best compilation of scam casinos.
And as I mentioned already, we do not have to do anything related to that list because we already have our favourite gambling site that we used to gamble on before.
Maybe people new to gambling need to search for more information to know whether those lists are right.
It is better to have our own gambling site lists than to see the list from other people because we know what we choose.
Lol, after quickly scrolling on the list I saw duelbits, wolf.bet, and stake on the list. I wonder what kind of "investigation" they are doing to decide whether a gambling site is a scam or not. would have been nice to know the reason why the gambling sites on the list are considered a scam.
That's questionable maybe one guy who loses his money on these sites wants to get even by reporting these three sites as scam casinos, but we know better, the majority of the casinos listed here are unknown to me, the majority of these could be fiat since the majority of these do not have links we have to Google it and there's no guaranty if that's the right casino.
Lol, after quickly scrolling on the list I saw duelbits, wolf.bet, and stake on the list. I wonder what kind of "investigation" they are doing to decide whether a gambling site is a scam or not. would have been nice to know the reason why the gambling sites on the list are considered a scam.
I too see the list not accurate, I do not understand why 1xbet (not 1xbit) is among, but 1xbit is not, 1xbet is a reputable betting platform but 1xbit have no good reputation yet while many people on these forum are accusing the betting site to be scam.https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1xbet-luring-out-non-crypto-gamblers-5324153
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kawbet-belongs-to-1xbet1xbit-known-scammers-plz-support-flag-5230966
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cleobet-another-betb2b-1xbet1xbit-clone-flag-to-be-supported-5237723
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pnxbet-kawbet-1xbet1xbit-known-scammers-plz-support-flag-5235201
i think those are enough to prove them being scammers.
It could be helpful but unfair for the accused at the same time because proofs aren't included as well as the explanation of how they are being tagged as scam casinos. There should be concrete evidence or at least reference to prove it so others will be completely aware of it.
This will be a very good idea, if there can be proofs included to let us know how some reputed gambling sites on it are also scam. Some are scam but if reputed ones are included along that are not scamming, it is the worst thing that can be done, then better for this type of article not to exist, because accusing and including reputable sites among bad ones is more than damaging for the reputable betting sites. 
Lol, after quickly scrolling on the list I saw duelbits, wolf.bet, and stake on the list. I wonder what kind of "investigation" they are doing to decide whether a gambling site is a scam or not. would have been nice to know the reason why the gambling sites on the list are considered a scam.
I don't think I can trust this list not because I'm part of the Stake.com campaign, but the three casinos mentioned do not have valid scam reports here in Bitcointalk and if there is it was already resolved, there are not even reason why these three casinos are included in the scam list, I've looked for 1XBIT they are not listed but only their sister company 1xBET, Bitcointalk scam section still has the best compilation of scam casinos.
Lol, after quickly scrolling on the list I saw duelbits, wolf.bet, and stake on the list. I wonder what kind of "investigation" they are doing to decide whether a gambling site is a scam or not. would have been nice to know the reason why the gambling sites on the list are considered a scam.
^ It seems you are right and even Rollbit.com, I saw it there that included the list. How come?I don't know where did they got that information I never saw a complaint from Rollbit and I don't think they are scams, I am completely against their list.
For me, we can ignore this list because it is a baseless scam list, I don't know why @Robert Schreiber has this conclusion of scams, and probably this is slandering other gambling casinos. Do you think a gambling casino can file a case against them? It is a libel case or entity's reputation.
Hard to file a libel case to an author who probably doesn't exist, his name is Robert Schreiber. But who knows this could just be a pseudo name which authors usually use a fictitious name. But they could contact the website. They have a long list of scam casinos which they don't even say how the casino scam.
Could this be a trick to just extort the casino owners in order for their website to be removed from the list?
Possible that could be extortion, this also comes to my mind. But I don't think a gambling owner will pay attention to them especially if the casino owner knows that they had good deeds for their users or they know that they never scam someone. For now, I think the author of this casino need to contact and ask about the compilation list of scam casinos which there are some are not true.
This kind of list is helpful for those who are unsure of the casino they're playing. But I do agree if there are some reviews that are attached for each casino and the experience of the person who reported it to them.
Because there is an instance that a gambler is just angry at his losses for a particular casino and makes a report to them with a made-up story just to put that casino on their scam list. I think that's unfair if the casino reported is fair and legitimate.
I'm not sure about the list being helpful when you see one of the most popular betting exchanges included in the list. It might give others some second thoughts before creating their account but I think it's better if they'd look for a different list than rely on this one because like you've said it only takes one or two bad experiences for the site to be included in the list as they ask for reports about anyone's case.Because there is an instance that a gambler is just angry at his losses for a particular casino and makes a report to them with a made-up story just to put that casino on their scam list. I think that's unfair if the casino reported is fair and legitimate.
I'd say the thread posted in the gambling discussion is more detailed compared to this list.
They've only said that someone has reported it but they never show the reasoning why it has to be on this list. If they only take suggestions from others about putting the report for each of those casinos then I think it will increase the credibility.
Lol, after quickly scrolling on the list I saw duelbits, wolf.bet, and stake on the list. I wonder what kind of "investigation" they are doing to decide whether a gambling site is a scam or not. would have been nice to know the reason why the gambling sites on the list are considered a scam.
^ It seems you are right and even Rollbit.com, I saw it there that included the list. How come?I don't know where did they got that information I never saw a complaint from Rollbit and I don't think they are scams, I am completely against their list.
For me, we can ignore this list because it is a baseless scam list, I don't know why @Robert Schreiber has this conclusion of scams, and probably this is slandering other gambling casinos. Do you think a gambling casino can file a case against them? It is a libel case or entity's reputation.
Hard to file a libel case to an author who probably doesn't exist, his name is Robert Schreiber. But who knows this could just be a pseudo name which authors usually use a fictitious name. But they could contact the website. They have a long list of scam casinos which they don't even say how the casino scam.
Could this be a trick to just extort the casino owners in order for their website to be removed from the list?
Lol, after quickly scrolling on the list I saw duelbits, wolf.bet, and stake on the list. I wonder what kind of "investigation" they are doing to decide whether a gambling site is a scam or not. would have been nice to know the reason why the gambling sites on the list are considered a scam.
I too see the list not accurate, I do not understand why 1xbet (not 1xbit) is among, but 1xbit is not, 1xbet is a reputable betting platform but 1xbit have no good reputation yet while many people on these forum are accusing the betting site to be scam.It could be helpful but unfair for the accused at the same time because proofs aren't included as well as the explanation of how they are being tagged as scam casinos. There should be concrete evidence or at least reference to prove it so others will be completely aware of it.
This will be a very good idea, if there can be proofs included to let us know how some reputed gambling sites on it are also scam. Some are scam but if reputed ones are included along that are not scamming, it is the worst thing that can be done, then better for this type of article not to exist, because accusing and including reputable sites among bad ones is more than damaging for the reputable betting sites.
It could be helpful but unfair for the accused at the same time because proofs aren't included as well as the explanation of how they are being tagged as scam casinos. There should be concrete evidence or at least reference to prove it so others will be completely aware of it.
Would be nice to see some comments, explaining why a particular website in the list was recognized as a scam.
I agree.
Pointing out on how they became a scam will help others to be wary of casinos they are planning to play in. Also, it would be more convincing if proofs are present because it's so easy to say a certain casino is a scam while you are just tripping and lack in evidence. But a list is a good start since gamblers would be alerted not to make any stupid decisions for them to lose their money on scam casinos.
Lol, after quickly scrolling on the list I saw duelbits, wolf.bet, and stake on the list. I wonder what kind of "investigation" they are doing to decide whether a gambling site is a scam or not. would have been nice to know the reason why the gambling sites on the list are considered a scam.
Could be a good list if they put the reason why they are considered scam there are no scam reports on those casinos why they are included in the list, this makes this compilation questionable I guess the creator just included if they have submission without doing an investigation, for casinos to be considered scam there should a legit accusation, not only complain.
This kind of list is helpful for those who are unsure of the casino they're playing. But I do agree if there are some reviews that are attached for each casino and the experience of the person who reported it to them.
Because there is an instance that a gambler is just angry at his losses for a particular casino and makes a report to them with a made-up story just to put that casino on their scam list. I think that's unfair if the casino reported is fair and legitimate.
I'm not sure about the list being helpful when you see one of the most popular betting exchanges included in the list. It might give others some second thoughts before creating their account but I think it's better if they'd look for a different list than rely on this one because like you've said it only takes one or two bad experiences for the site to be included in the list as they ask for reports about anyone's case.Because there is an instance that a gambler is just angry at his losses for a particular casino and makes a report to them with a made-up story just to put that casino on their scam list. I think that's unfair if the casino reported is fair and legitimate.
I'd say the thread posted in the gambling discussion is more detailed compared to this list.
I wonder how he can compile that such a big list of online scam casinos because I see that some of his lists have good reputations here so I think he does not know the truth.
If that list relies on individuals, the author needs to investigate by himself and find out if that report is right or needs to fix because if he plays the game from each site and deposits and withdraws the money, he will know if the site is right is good or not.
Hopefully, the audience can be selective to use that gambling lists and the important is that they do not deposit in big money just to play gambling and not try to break their TOS.
If that list relies on individuals, the author needs to investigate by himself and find out if that report is right or needs to fix because if he plays the game from each site and deposits and withdraws the money, he will know if the site is right is good or not.
Hopefully, the audience can be selective to use that gambling lists and the important is that they do not deposit in big money just to play gambling and not try to break their TOS.
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if you look at YOSHIE's post, the author of that list Relies on reports coming from individuals. although he claims that investigation has been done I doubt that the author actually does it. because if he does we would have seen references as to why the gambling sites were on the list or is considered as scam.as for them being able to file a case, they probably could. but the gambling site would need to provide evidence that whatever caused them to be listed on a scam list is false.
Quote from: https://scamnewschannel.com/casino-blacklist/
This list is based on direct reporting and investigation. If you’d like to verify if a casino is legit and you do not see it on the list please let us know here.
If you’d like to report a casino scam you can do so here.
For any users who still don't have any idea how they included popular and trusted casino on the list, this is how they do. Any stranger can fill up the report details that he provided, he can write whatever legit or faked accusation and then press submit. After that, this sites will include the casino to the list because it's from direct reporting from the form details.If you’d like to report a casino scam you can do so here.
The funny thing this sites doesn't included very known scam casino e.g. 1xbit, adkinsbet, kawbet, coins777 etc lol
Lets say the author create a list of trusted casinos and do the same listing process, we will see the same casinos on both Scam and Trusted list lol. The list of the scam casinos shows that the author is not a professional. Someone who claim himself as a journalist and researcher with 15 years experience on financial crimes will not do a random listing like this.
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