Big scam at Waves Decentralized Exchange platform - page 3.

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Quote from: gsemep on May 26, 2017, 01:00:44 PM

Yesterday , another people come to our discuss group said that he also bought fake coins. This time he bought fake wave coins.
He lost 15 bitcoins for it . OMG!!!

Really,this is decentralized,the people from waves team seems cannot do anything with it,they should implement restriction from allowing to create fake popular coins soon their site will have fake dogecoin fake ripple or whatever coin that newbies will think is a real coin.

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Please make sure there's verified green mark, and check the asset id!!
Unique asset names are being tested on the testnet now, and will be released in the next mainnet update.

gsemep

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Yesterday , another people come to our discuss group said that he also bought fake coins. This time he bought fake wave coins.
He lost 15 bitcoins for it . OMG!!!

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Quote from: Twiggy Smile on May 26, 2017, 04:21:58 AM

Litecoin do not have a green tick, because this is not official asset And user saw it perfectly, but he did not want to know

If none of the LTCs listed had a tick or some other kind of indicator, one could not possibly ‘have seen it perfectly’, since there was nothing to base a decision on in the first place. Also, my comments were regarding how you have decided to handle the situation which is wrong no matter what you come up with next.

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To be honest, everything is much simpler. If you are an idiot, you will lose money in any case. Even if the waves will block all fake assets, in that case you will lose money, but only because of your stupidity! It's not the fault of the waves, it's only your fault. Think about it, newbie, fake accounts (gsemep and maerts).

‘Fake’? Mate, I am not even a Waves user myself. If someone here must be ‘fake’, it is much more likely to be you (Free-Crypto).

I am done here. Cheesy

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Quote from: maerts on May 26, 2017, 03:52:58 AM

This claim is misleading and invalid, and you know it. OP purchased LTC which is not officially supported according to you (#8); there was not a single indicator present for OP to have based their decision on in this case.
Whether OP had ingenuine intentions or not, blocking accounts for such trivial matters show a lot about your way of operating let alone putting fault entirely on users for oversight from your side.
I am sure everyone who has seen this thread (with the actions you have taken in particular) will think twice before considering using your platform now. Good job, Sir.

Litecoin do not have a green tick, because this is not official asset And user saw it perfectly, but he did not want to know - "Why? Why this asset do not have a green ticks?" While other official assets have it.

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This is the problem with decentralization. Some people are abusing and don't even care to harm others. Now i'm thinking that we really have problems making decentralization a norm.

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Quote from: Twiggy Smile on May 24, 2017, 11:25:59 PM

Another question for you guys. Why did you use another (fake) bitcoin asset, if by default in the wallet (on the bitcoin side) the REAL bitcoin asset is always selected by default.

So, in other words, you deliberately used another (fake) bitcoin asset:

You deliberately chose another (fake) bitcoin asset, despite the green tick:

This claim is misleading and invalid, and you know it. OP purchased LTC which is not officially supported according to you (#8); there was not a single indicator present for OP to have based their decision on in this case.

Whether OP had ingenuine intentions or not, blocking accounts for such trivial matters show a lot about your way of operating let alone putting fault entirely on users for oversight from your side.

I am sure everyone who has seen this thread (with the actions you have taken in particular) will think twice before considering using your platform now. Good job, Sir.

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I did not say that we will not solve this issue. In the future, we will add a filter for asset names, and fake assets will be excluded, but probably this will require a hard fork of the entire network.

At the moment, there are green labels and default (Bitcoin/USD/EUR) assets, also user not need to change the asset from bitcoin section in DEX platform.

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Quote from: gsemep on May 25, 2017, 05:40:03 PM

Like I say if the administer want to do something , there`s always something they can do to stop this kind of scam. But they just keep insisting there`s nothing to do with them and nothing they can do. And there's more and more victims. I don't understand why they don't care about their reputation at all.

If they are not going to address this issue,many more people will suffer the same,and blocking peopleand and not answering the issues are indication that they are not trustworthy,had similar experience with torwallet where I lost a small amount but they choose to block me than addressing my concern,I see similar issue happening to wavesplatform.

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Like I say if the administer want to do something , there`s always something they can do to stop this kind of scam. But they just keep insisting there`s nothing to do with them and nothing they can do. And there's more and more victims. I don't understand why they don't care about their reputation at all.

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Another question for you guys. Why did you use another (fake) bitcoin asset, if by default in the wallet (on the bitcoin side) the REAL bitcoin asset is always selected by default.

So, in other words, you deliberately used another (fake) bitcoin asset:

You deliberately chose another (fake) bitcoin asset, despite the green tick:

maerts

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It is not weird for OP to suspect an administrator since they blatantly ignore a serious issue that has victimised and continues to victimise who knows how many yet they easily block OP’s account for wanting assistance after having lost BTC 5 (USD 12,614.29). Whether justified or not, blocking accounts like this is never the way to go. I have worked at an international company and had strict protocol to follow always. These people appear like hypocrites trying to put a new meaning to ‘decentralised’. I would not be surprised if they actually are involved with the malpractices described judging from what we have gotten to see.

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They try to accuse me that maybe I'm the one who create the fake coin and sell to myself and then come to them asking for compensation.
Simple solution just cancel the whole trade . I get my money back , whoever create that fake coins pay back what he cheated .
If I'm the one who create it I won't get any benefit from it.

gsemep

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I just heard that one more person bought fake coins today . And he lost 15 real bitcoins for it. Why WDE administor doing nothing to stop this kind of scam happen repeadly?
It's so easy for them to stop it if they want to. But they just keep saying that this is nothing to do with them.

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So I just open public access for your ticket (Anyone can see our correspondence. We have nothing to hide):

https://wavesplatform.userecho.com/topics/802-need-help-to-transfer-coins

Also you are tried to withdraw unsupported bitcoin asset:

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wavesgo.com/transactions.html?CFMz9urMRgQiKhWs5pM4RGy3QMoxapow5ktKruPkGkvo

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Also to my question:

You answered:

So, I have one very important question for you. How can you prove that these fake assets were created not by you? At least an asset for a lite coin? This is so simple, create an asset only for 1 Waves and trying to get hundreds of dollars as compensation?

While no one litecoin asset does not supported by the wavesplatform.

gsemep

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The problem is the wavelite platform administrator knew people are selling fake coin. But they doing nothing to stop it.
I record detailed conversation between us. At first they try to let me think those coin are really coin. I don`t need to worry.
And pretend to help me to transfer them out to my other account.
So it`s reasonable to doubt that they are the one who create those fake coin to cheat others.

And after I finally found out those are fake coins. They just tell me I`m bad luck. My money gone and never come back.
I lost around 5 bitcoins . That`s a really heavy lost for me.

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Dear users of the Wavesplatform,

Any member of the Waves network can create their own assets and distribute to other participants these assets in the Waves network.

Someone does this to attract attention to their token, someone does thisto attract attention to their LPOS pool. Someone has too much free time.

Any token which is created on the Waves platform can be traded on the DEX platform, but only the real bitcoin asset provided by Waves platform can be exchanged for real bitcoin and have a value of 1:1. The real Bitcoin asset has only one asset id: 8LQW8f7P5d5PZM7GtZEBgaqRPGSzS3DfPuiXrURJ4AJS, provided by Waves platform and available on the main page of the lite client (See "BITCOIN" section).

Every verified asset has a green tick.

Any way, we are well aware of this problem and in the future we will add a filtering of names for tokens creation + each user will be able to hide the spam assets.

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Quote from: erikalui on May 22, 2017, 03:59:13 PM

Thanks for notifying this issue. I also started using their trading platform but never knew that they would send fake coins which users have created in their account.

Quote from: Fortify on May 22, 2017, 12:37:30 PM

Sounds like people are abusing their "securities trading" platform with a simple bait and switch scam. Have you done any research into people behind it at all? Your post will help other people in future, but it's so easy to fake an identity on the internet and hide over the internet that you have probably lost your money. What made you test this platform in the first place, did you see an advert for it somewhere? Do they have a website or is it purely a phone application?

It's within the main waves wallet itself: https://waveswallet.io/

People can create their own assets and name them as per their wish. One wouldn't even know which is a fake btc or real one while buying/selling.

They will eventually get caught and this will ruin their business,the dev of that platform should go here to clarify and clear the site's reputation many people are now coming here and use their platform,right now any thread about their platform will get a post redirected to this accusation.

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Quote from: Fortify on May 22, 2017, 12:37:30 PM

Sounds like people are abusing their "securities trading" platform with a simple bait and switch scam. Have you done any research into people behind it at all? Your post will help other people in future, but it's so easy to fake an identity on the internet and hide over the internet that you have probably lost your money. What made you test this platform in the first place, did you see an advert for it somewhere? Do they have a website or is it purely a phone application?

Wave coin is at No.20 position of the all the cyber coin market. That's why I believe in them . I download the trading app from their offically website.
But unbelieveable such a big company also cheating people 's money.

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Thanks for notifying this issue. I also started using their trading platform but never knew that they would send fake coins which users have created in their account.

Quote from: Fortify on May 22, 2017, 12:37:30 PM

Sounds like people are abusing their "securities trading" platform with a simple bait and switch scam. Have you done any research into people behind it at all? Your post will help other people in future, but it's so easy to fake an identity on the internet and hide over the internet that you have probably lost your money. What made you test this platform in the first place, did you see an advert for it somewhere? Do they have a website or is it purely a phone application?

It's within the main waves wallet itself: https://waveswallet.io/

People can create their own assets and name them as per their wish. One wouldn't even know which is a fake btc or real one while buying/selling.

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