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October 25, 2022, 07:40:47 PM
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I think surely and taking advantage of the Halloween season it would be good to have a section:

[][]Bitcoin Forum > Bitcoin > Bitcoin No Discussion > myths and mysteries. []closes on October 31[]

I don't think it's the biggest mystery in the area tech. but... anyway if you're on bitcointalk it's without a doubt the biggest.

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October 25, 2022, 06:45:06 PM
#62
Of course I can backup everything I have said in the Bitcoin Talk Forum. What kind of proof of Evidence do you want ?

I am not here to make joke or troll anyone. I am not here to convince any one to believe what I reveal. If you are curious then do your diligent research and find Satoshi Nakamoto. If you do not find him then come back to me and ask me and I will reveal to you, who is Satoshi Nakamoto and who am I ?


Doxxing of forum members is not allowed on this forum but members can dox his/herself. You said you have a piece of evidence about who Satoshi Nakamoto is then I believe you should know the proper evidence you can provide to make people on this forum believe you're not joking or trolling because all the previous evidence provided about Satoshi is just a prognosis.
 
You are right. No one has rights and responsibilities doxing others' identities. I think every one's in this forum should respect each person's privacy and speak and debate all matters under the principles of good manners.
 
Everything you said here is one of the rules and regulations of this forum which every member must abide with.

Only journalists and the Governments agents  have the rights and responsibilities to find out all hidden matters to news media and government's knowledge. 
 
The journalist and the government agent also have a certain extent which will require a warrant before doing some research to find out the hidden matters of some cases.

But in the case of Bitcoin invention the journalists and governments agents have not any real interest to find out the real Bitcoin invention mystery and doxing its investor's identity. There is hidden mystery regarding, why the journalists around the world have failed to find the Bitcoin inventor.
 
No, I don't know about the government because they always set some team in which everything they do or research must is classified but there are some investigative journalists who have a real interest in revealing the identity of the real Satoshi.
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October 25, 2022, 04:08:51 AM
#61
Of course I can backup everything I have said in the Bitcoin Talk Forum. What kind of proof of Evidence do you want ?

I am not here to make joke or troll anyone. I am not here to convince any one to believe what I reveal. If you are curious then do your diligent research and find Satoshi Nakamoto. If you do not find him then come back to me and ask me and I will reveal to you, who is Satoshi Nakamoto and who am I ?


Doxxing of forum members is not allowed on this forum but members can dox his/herself. You said you have a piece of evidence about who Satoshi Nakamoto is then I believe you should know the proper evidence you can provide to make people on this forum believe you're not joking or trolling because all the previous evidence provided about Satoshi is just a prognosis.
 

You are right. No one has rights and responsibilities doxing others' identities. I think every one's in this forum should respect each person's privacy and speak and debate all matters under the principles of good manners.

Only journalists and the Governments agents  have the rights and responsibilities to find out all hidden matters to news media and government's knowledge.  But in the case of Bitcoin invention the journalists and governments agents have not any real interest to find out the real Bitcoin invention mystery and doxing its investor's identity. There is hidden mystery regarding, why the journalists around the world have failed to find the Bitcoin inventor.

Even though, it is a crude truth that government agents know the whole matter but they are under a classified order not to reveal any information about Bitcoin invention and its inventor pseudonimous Satoshi Nakamoto. The important issue here in this thread is 'the biggest mystery' reffer to the Bitcoin inventor, which is just an interesting matter for ordinary forum members and general readers. May be few other intered parties from the central  banking families are trying to know the facts behind Bitcoin and its success.


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October 23, 2022, 09:21:44 AM
#60
Of course I can backup everything I have said in the Bitcoin Talk Forum. What kind of proof of Evidence do you want ?

I am not here to make joke or troll anyone. I am not here to convince any one to believe what I reveal. If you are curious then do your diligent research and find Satoshi Nakamoto. If you do not find him then come back to me and ask me and I will reveal to you, who is Satoshi Nakamoto and who am I ?


Doxxing of forum members is not allowed on this forum but members can dox his/herself. You said you have a piece of evidence about who Satoshi Nakamoto is then I believe you should know the proper evidence you can provide to make people on this forum believe you're not joking or trolling because all the previous evidence provided about Satoshi is just a prognosis.
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October 23, 2022, 07:37:15 AM
#59
The government is always thirsty for power and their aim is to have total control. If they are satisfied with centralized exchange being in their control then it takes them nothing to legalize Bitcoin as a legal payment method.
If Satoshi's identity is revealed today there are 2 major risks we should expect, him (Satoshi) being in danger and the chance of the government intervening further in the market.
No, Governments are not interested to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Governments already knows the real Satoshi Nakamoto.
Can you back up what you said with a piece of evidence? If the government already knows who the real Satoshi Nakamoto is. Why is Craig Wright not behind bars for impersonation and scamming the people who believe he's Satoshi by investing in his scamcoin?

It is not the Governments but the central banking Elites are interested to know how a single man has challenged the  financial system by creating the decentraluzed financial service industry ?

After all Governments or the Central Bankers are not the problem for Satoshi Nakamoto but the truth is the Bitcoin community leaders, those who are greedy for power and money are problem of Satoshi Nakamoto.
The major hindrance of Bitcoin is still the government because the Central Bank is established by the Federal government and the stance of the Federal government towards BTC is what will determine what other government organizations will do. When the El Salvador President legalized BTC as a legal tender. Does any government body change it?
I don't know what you're trying to say that some people are greedy for power and money in the BTC community because the ecosystem of Bitcoin was built on decentralization and consensus.


Satoshi Nakamoto is reading this thread and responding for clarification. Some of you are right and some of you are wrong in your personal judgement.

Satoshi Nakamoto suppose to revealed his identity in 14 February 2020 but the opponents stopped him to reveal his identity.

If Satoshi Nakamoto reveal his identity now, then nothing will happen. There will be no change but the market reverse as normal and Bitcoin price will grow faster.



I don't agree with all this.


Of course I can backup everything I have said in the Bitcoin Talk Forum. What kind of proof of Evidence do you want ?

I am not here to make joke or troll anyone. I am not here to convince any one to believe what I reveal. If you are curious then do your diligent research and find Satoshi Nakamoto. If you do not find him then come back to me and ask me and I will reveal to you, who is Satoshi Nakamoto and who am I ?

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October 22, 2022, 04:27:29 AM
#58
No, Governments are not interested to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Governments already knows the real Satoshi Nakamoto. ~
Is there any proof to confirm your statement? As far as I know, if the government knows about Nakamoto's identity, the news will spread soon throughout the world.

~ It is not the Governments but the central banking Elites are interested to know how a single man has challenged the  financial system by creating the decentraluzed financial service industry ? ~
Looks like you are 100% sure that Satoshi Nakamoto is "somebody", isn't there a possibility that's the name of a group? Or maybe a country that really wants to create this system, that's also possible, right?

I feel like this discussion is expired, but I just want to make sure that you don't make a wild statement.
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October 21, 2022, 07:36:17 PM
#57
The government is always thirsty for power and their aim is to have total control. If they are satisfied with centralized exchange being in their control then it takes them nothing to legalize Bitcoin as a legal payment method.
If Satoshi's identity is revealed today there are 2 major risks we should expect, him (Satoshi) being in danger and the chance of the government intervening further in the market.
No, Governments are not interested to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Governments already knows the real Satoshi Nakamoto.
Can you back up what you said with a piece of evidence? If the government already knows who the real Satoshi Nakamoto is. Why is Craig Wright not behind bars for impersonation and scamming the people who believe he's Satoshi by investing in his scamcoin?

It is not the Governments but the central banking Elites are interested to know how a single man has challenged the  financial system by creating the decentraluzed financial service industry ?

After all Governments or the Central Bankers are not the problem for Satoshi Nakamoto but the truth is the Bitcoin community leaders, those who are greedy for power and money are problem of Satoshi Nakamoto.
The major hindrance of Bitcoin is still the government because the Central Bank is established by the Federal government and the stance of the Federal government towards BTC is what will determine what other government organizations will do. When the El Salvador President legalized BTC as a legal tender. Does any government body change it?
I don't know what you're trying to say that some people are greedy for power and money in the BTC community because the ecosystem of Bitcoin was built on decentralization and consensus.


Satoshi Nakamoto is reading this thread and responding for clarification. Some of you are right and some of you are wrong in your personal judgement.

Satoshi Nakamoto suppose to revealed his identity in 14 February 2020 but the opponents stopped him to reveal his identity.

If Satoshi Nakamoto reveal his identity now, then nothing will happen. There will be no change but the market reverse as normal and Bitcoin price will grow faster.



I don't agree with all this.
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October 21, 2022, 03:35:35 PM
#56
I also think so because by remaining anonymous, Satoshi can keep an eye on bitcoin from a distance and make sure everything is running smoothly. He can also stay away from the media that will continue to chase him. With the achievements of bitcoin so far that can make many people start adopting it and making it a new investment tool, Satoshi Nakamoto is happy because what he has made can start to become global. Many people have already felt the benefits of bitcoin itself. And we better focus on collecting more bitcoins.
Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.
The government will bring Satoshi to explain in more detail about his project and maybe the government will force him to give his wallet containing lots of bitcoins to the government. This will change everything because the government can easily interfere in the market because they have access to many bitcoins. Satoshi himself may experience unpleasant things while under government supervision because the government will make sure that Satoshi supports them.

If he shows up, the government will certainly interrogate and mine bitcoin news, but I'm not sure if the government can intervene further in the market. If they want to own a lot of bitcoins now they can do it whenever, centralized exchanges are now under their control who own bitcoins but public identities like Saylor, tesla ... are all within their control.
I think the safety of satoshi is the main issue when his identity is revealed not bitcoin as bitcoin works independently not dependent on anyone including its creator, satoshi.
The government is always thirsty for power and their aim is to have total control. If they are satisfied with centralized exchange being in their control then it takes them nothing to legalize Bitcoin as a legal payment method.
If Satoshi's identity is revealed today there are 2 major risks we should expect, him (Satoshi) being in danger and the chance of the government intervening further in the market.

No, Governments are not interested to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Governments already knows the real Satoshi Nakamoto. It is not the Governments but the central banking Elites are interested to know how a single man has challenged the  financial system by creating the decentraluzed financial service industry ?

After all Governments or the Central Bankers are not the problem for Satoshi Nakamoto but the truth is the Bitcoin community leaders, those who are greedy for power and money are problem of Satoshi Nakamoto.

Satoshi Nakamoto is reading this thread and responding for clarification. Some of you are right and some of you are wrong in your personal judgement.

Satoshi Nakamoto suppose to revealed his identity in 14 February 2020 but the opponents stopped him to reveal his identity.

If Satoshi Nakamoto reveal his identity now, then nothing will happen. There will be no change but the market reverse as normal and Bitcoin price will grow faster.


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October 21, 2022, 01:59:25 PM
#55
I also think so because by remaining anonymous, Satoshi can keep an eye on bitcoin from a distance and make sure everything is running smoothly. He can also stay away from the media that will continue to chase him. With the achievements of bitcoin so far that can make many people start adopting it and making it a new investment tool, Satoshi Nakamoto is happy because what he has made can start to become global. Many people have already felt the benefits of bitcoin itself. And we better focus on collecting more bitcoins.
Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.
The government will bring Satoshi to explain in more detail about his project and maybe the government will force him to give his wallet containing lots of bitcoins to the government. This will change everything because the government can easily interfere in the market because they have access to many bitcoins. Satoshi himself may experience unpleasant things while under government supervision because the government will make sure that Satoshi supports them.

If he shows up, the government will certainly interrogate and mine bitcoin news, but I'm not sure if the government can intervene further in the market. If they want to own a lot of bitcoins now they can do it whenever, centralized exchanges are now under their control who own bitcoins but public identities like Saylor, tesla ... are all within their control.
I think the safety of satoshi is the main issue when his identity is revealed not bitcoin as bitcoin works independently not dependent on anyone including its creator, satoshi.
The government is always thirsty for power and their aim is to have total control. If they are satisfied with centralized exchange being in their control then it takes them nothing to legalize Bitcoin as a legal payment method.
If Satoshi's identity is revealed today there are 2 major risks we should expect, him (Satoshi) being in danger and the chance of the government intervening further in the market.
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October 21, 2022, 12:11:05 AM
#54
I also think so because by remaining anonymous, Satoshi can keep an eye on bitcoin from a distance and make sure everything is running smoothly. He can also stay away from the media that will continue to chase him. With the achievements of bitcoin so far that can make many people start adopting it and making it a new investment tool, Satoshi Nakamoto is happy because what he has made can start to become global. Many people have already felt the benefits of bitcoin itself. And we better focus on collecting more bitcoins.
Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.
The government will bring Satoshi to explain in more detail about his project and maybe the government will force him to give his wallet containing lots of bitcoins to the government. This will change everything because the government can easily interfere in the market because they have access to many bitcoins. Satoshi himself may experience unpleasant things while under government supervision because the government will make sure that Satoshi supports them.

If he shows up, the government will certainly interrogate and mine bitcoin news, but I'm not sure if the government can intervene further in the market. If they want to own a lot of bitcoins now they can do it whenever, centralized exchanges are now under their control who own bitcoins but public identities like Saylor, tesla ... are all within their control.
I think the safety of satoshi is the main issue when his identity is revealed not bitcoin as bitcoin works independently not dependent on anyone including its creator, satoshi.
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October 20, 2022, 08:43:04 PM
#53
I think a handful of people have a more or less accurate suspicion of who Satoshi might be. But instead of releasing them to a curious public, they instead helped Satos clean up.
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October 20, 2022, 07:17:11 AM
#52
So who is Satoshi Nakamoto? This question is repeated hundreds of times every year. I don't even care or don't want to know how the original figure of the bitcoin maker is, for sure with bitcoin all my life has changed from income to transactions so easy, fast and safe for me that's enough. You better learn more about bitcoin and crypto because every year developments in these fields are always changing and there is always progress that you must follow.
We already know if who is satoshi nakamoto but what we don't know is how satoshi looks like. It's okay if you won't bother about this and I think satoshi will be happy if all of us are not going to bother looking for him because this is the path that he chose but there will always be people who are very curious and will keep on seeking for information which could reveal the true identity of satoshi and there are also those fake satoshi popping out.

It's kinda annoying though. Many of us who got involved in bitcoin and use it as an asset can say that it changed our life even not to the point that we are now ultra rich. It also change the way we transact by the time we use it as a currency.
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October 17, 2022, 04:08:19 PM
#51
~snip~
@fuguebtc I agree with what you said but Bitcoin is open source and there's no information the government wants to extract from Satoshi that's not already in the source code.
I believe @nullama make the statement because he/she doesn't know the huge number of people who sees Bitcoin as a threat to their business and the level of dirty trick the government can pull to bring Satoshi down which will literally affect BTC's reputation.

I'm aware that there might be people that would like to have a word with Satoshi.
There might be people who would like to have a word with him or make his life a living hell.

But as I mentioned, Bitcoin is already independent of its creator. The blocks will continue to be produced roughly every 10 minutes.
No matter how independent Bitcoin is, we can not change the inventor to someone else except Satoshi.

Sure, there would be a short term drama, and maybe the price will fluctuate wildly, but in the long term the fundamentals will continue to drive Bitcoin.
A short drama or lifetime drama. I pray you don't see the other side of the Feds. Do you know how many times XRP and the SEC have been in battle since 2020 if I  can remember correctly?
Do you check how it impacts the price and the XRP market?
Satoshi have make the right decision and it will be nice if he don't change it.
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October 16, 2022, 07:29:19 PM
#50
~snip~
@fuguebtc I agree with what you said but Bitcoin is open source and there's no information the government wants to extract from Satoshi that's not already in the source code.
I believe @nullama make the statement because he/she doesn't know the huge number of people who sees Bitcoin as a threat to their business and the level of dirty trick the government can pull to bring Satoshi down which will literally affect BTC's reputation.

I'm aware that there might be people that would like to have a word with Satoshi.

But as I mentioned, Bitcoin is already independent of its creator. The blocks will continue to be produced roughly every 10 minutes.

Sure, there would be a short term drama, and maybe the price will fluctuate wildly, but in the long term the fundamentals will continue to drive Bitcoin.
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October 16, 2022, 05:28:48 PM
#49
~snip~
Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.

Satoshi appearing in public wouldn't change how Bitcoin works. That means that it would still be almost impossible to confiscate. The only way would be to someone basically stealing your private keys. Also Bitcoin will continue generating blocks.


That may or may not happen as we don't know if satoshi holds any bitcoin secrets anymore, remember he's the one who made it so he'll know things we might not have seen them yet. If he comes out and gets government attention it is really not good for bitcoin and him, they will definitely extract all bitcoin information from him and will find a way to control it. Currently, bitcoin is sacrosanct but that doesn't mean it won't happen in the future, I think that's why he has a reason not to show up.
@fuguebtc I agree with what you said but Bitcoin is open source and there's no information the government wants to extract from Satoshi that's not already in the source code.
I believe @nullama make the statement because he/she doesn't know the huge number of people who sees Bitcoin as a threat to their business and the level of dirty trick the government can pull to bring Satoshi down which will literally affect BTC's reputation.

I also think so because by remaining anonymous, Satoshi can keep an eye on bitcoin from a distance and make sure everything is running smoothly. He can also stay away from the media that will continue to chase him. With the achievements of bitcoin so far that can make many people start adopting it and making it a new investment tool, Satoshi Nakamoto is happy because what he has made can start to become global. Many people have already felt the benefits of bitcoin itself. And we better focus on collecting more bitcoins.
Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.
The government will bring Satoshi to explain in more detail about his project and maybe the government will force him to give his wallet containing lots of bitcoins to the government. This will change everything because the government can easily interfere in the market because they have access to many bitcoins. Satoshi himself may experience unpleasant things while under government supervision because the government will make sure that Satoshi supports them.
Yes. i believe Satoshi will experience something even more than unpleasant if he dox himself and it's better he won't reveal himself for the safety of himself and the BTC ecosystem.
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October 16, 2022, 12:33:53 PM
#48
Right let him choose to be anonymous without anyone knowing who he is. He must have considered that being anonymous was better than having to go out with an identity. He had calculated this before he created bitcoin. Because we never know what will happen if he comes out with his identity, because maybe it will harm himself. We never knew such a thing.
Considering about the developer or programmer about Bitcoin with Satoshi Nakamoto still alive or not better for him keep hidden his identity and action behind only how proud right now looking Bitcoin become most popular digital currency and adopted by bigger companies. Surely if Satoshi Nakamoto want to publish him self I think give bad impact for Bitcoin reputation at the future and less people want to trust Bitcoin if have controlling by some one.

Keep safety with Blockchain network until right now with many other chain ever got hacked, I think this how trusted controlling or progress by Satoshi Nakamoto if keep hidden him self from public, maybe have chance get problem with Blockchain network like the other chain if try to publish him self.
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October 16, 2022, 05:20:08 AM
#47
One of the biggest mysteries in the technology world is the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto
No and no, I don't think it's the biggest mystery for bitcoin, but people continue to think of it as a mystery because they really want to know it. Maintaining privacy is not a mystery, but I think the biggest mystery of bitcoin is knowing when this currency was able to dominate world financial transactions and be adopted globally.

Satoshi should take very good care of his privacy, he doesn't need to reveal how many bitcoin he has, how many wallets he has and where he is now. That's the privacy you really have to think about when you have a bank in your hands.
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October 16, 2022, 05:04:43 AM
#46
I also think so because by remaining anonymous, Satoshi can keep an eye on bitcoin from a distance and make sure everything is running smoothly. He can also stay away from the media that will continue to chase him. With the achievements of bitcoin so far that can make many people start adopting it and making it a new investment tool, Satoshi Nakamoto is happy because what he has made can start to become global. Many people have already felt the benefits of bitcoin itself. And we better focus on collecting more bitcoins.
Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.
The government will bring Satoshi to explain in more detail about his project and maybe the government will force him to give his wallet containing lots of bitcoins to the government. This will change everything because the government can easily interfere in the market because they have access to many bitcoins. Satoshi himself may experience unpleasant things while under government supervision because the government will make sure that Satoshi supports them.
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October 15, 2022, 10:21:35 PM
#45
~snip~
Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.

Satoshi appearing in public wouldn't change how Bitcoin works. That means that it would still be almost impossible to confiscate. The only way would be to someone basically stealing your private keys. Also Bitcoin will continue generating blocks.


That may or may not happen as we don't know if satoshi holds any bitcoin secrets anymore, remember he's the one who made it so he'll know things we might not have seen them yet. If he comes out and gets government attention it is really not good for bitcoin and him, they will definitely extract all bitcoin information from him and will find a way to control it. Currently, bitcoin is sacrosanct but that doesn't mean it won't happen in the future, I think that's why he has a reason not to show up.
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October 15, 2022, 08:58:29 PM
#44
~snip~
Yes, Satoshi may keep an eye on Bitcoin from afar and supporting the dev team but I believe the number purpose I believe is the reason why he left is to make Bitcoin achieved total decentralization and no censorship.
If Satoshi identity is know when he create, by now is either Bitcoin will be died or confiscated by the goverment.

Satoshi appearing in public wouldn't change how Bitcoin works. That means that it would still be almost impossible to confiscate. The only way would be to someone basically stealing your private keys. Also Bitcoin will continue generating blocks.
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