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Topic: Bill Gates 3 problems with BTC - page 2. (Read 6695 times)

donator
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March 01, 2015, 06:23:15 AM
#87
I hate to admit it, but Gates is completely right.

There is no question Satoshi is a genius, many aspects of his innovation are really remarkable, however Gates (who is very good at the implementation level) correctly spots the biggest issue with Bitcoin: that without a regulated third party it's not fit for trade and hard to integrate it in the existing regulated legal and financial structures. No wonder large adopters like Paypal and Microsoft use Bitcoin in a strictly regulated environment where the third parties can verify who is paying for who. In modern societies where drug traders, money launderers and terrorist organizations pose security risk from the state viewpoint only regulated financial instruments will be allowed by law enforcement, and therefore Gates very correctly states that it seems Bitcoin cannot be such financial instrument. What Gates said (despite what the OP states) nothing to do with privacy, it is all about the ability to comply with regulations.

In the meantime ignorant Bitcoin fanboys state that the lack of regulation what Gates points out is the strength of Bitcoin. In fantasy land yes, but in reality it is not.  The reality is that without regulated third parties Bitcoin won't be able to succeed. Only regulated third parties can take Bitcoin to the mainstream ... which completely defies the purpose of the decentralized aspect of Satoshi's great innovation.

The thing is fucked up from wider integration and regulation viewpoint, so it is better we the Bitcoin community and investors listen to smart people like Bill Gates.
You schmucks who want regulators to tell you how to live your life get very boring after a while.

Thankfully we had Satoshi to render you irrelevant.  Go live your life in your regulated taxed hell, and leave the rest of us enjoy the good things.
hero member
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March 01, 2015, 06:03:40 AM
#86
The first one is definitely a problem. Poor people can't rely on BitCoin.
Depends on the country. There are people from countries with high inflation, who benefited a lot from storing their wealth in Bitcoin, even if it is volatile.
People really need to learn, that there are other countries in the world than the USA.
newbie
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Merit: 0
March 01, 2015, 05:48:38 AM
#85
The first one is definitely a problem. Poor people can't rely on BitCoin.

They might not be able to rely on anything else. Fiat isn't immune from collapse or losing value either.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
March 01, 2015, 05:31:13 AM
#84
well despise the fact i do apreciate the intellegence and work of bill gates and even the money i dont think hes going to put like money into btc itsd unatural a centrelized money guy to invest in anonimouse money that can get hacked in blockchain need more safe coin
hero member
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February 13, 2015, 01:06:30 AM
#83
I bet Bill Gates will try to fix that "problems" with his fully centralised microsoftcoin. He is just full of shit.
full member
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February 12, 2015, 08:59:29 PM
#82
The first one is definitely a problem. Poor people can't rely on BitCoin.
legendary
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February 12, 2015, 08:22:42 PM
#81
I only see one problem here. Taking advice from someone that represent the current dominant financial paradigms.

This guy is the embodiment of the current financial system. Why would he want to lose power to bitcoin ? Of course he will gently tell you that bitcoin is shit.

Well, he did not say it literally. But he blatantly stated that there is no hope for bitcoin in its current form to be dominant form of currency. Why? Because bitcoin can't be traced easily, is anonymous and do not allow refund? Thats all great qualities of bitcoin! In the times when BiG Brother is watching your every move bitcoin is a light of hope. That also means bitcoin is no currency for fools and unfortunately majority of people are well... idiots.
hero member
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February 12, 2015, 07:52:24 PM
#80
I only see one problem here. Taking advice from someone that represent the current dominant financial paradigms.

This guy is the embodiment of the current financial system. Why would he want to lose power to bitcoin ? Of course he will gently tell you that bitcoin is shit.
legendary
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Merit: 1252
February 12, 2015, 07:50:04 PM
#79
For the first one. Gotta agree, normal people (non-technology) wont be investing in Bitcoin. Most of them are afraid for the rapid changes in the exchange rate. And.. some of them can't understand how Bitcoin work. Unless Bitcoin is value stable, else, people wont be investing in it.

Volatility, a heaven for the majority of traders.

It is, but its not for the average joe whose wants a steady currency that doesnt change a lot. Thats why I think Bitcoin is egold and not emoney.
legendary
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February 12, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
#78
i have 3 problems with Gates, too ...

1) Windows Me
2) Windows Vista
3) Windows 8

hero member
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February 12, 2015, 03:22:27 PM
#77
One of Bill Gates' mistaken ideas about bitcoin is in regards to transaction irreversibility.

The following video is THE best video response I've ever seen to the tiresome complaint that bitcoin transaction irreversibility is a problem. Andreas debunks this claim in a few minutes with finesse.

Bill Gates needs to watch this clip so he gets we're dealing with a flexible *protocol* which is programmable and can offer reversals if needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsW_bsFAWgw#t=245

This is why Bitcoin is more powerful than anything that has been seen before.

How do we get him to watch it?

He's not going to like Bitcoin because of the anonymity no matter what.

That's strange to me.. is he part of the government or something?
legendary
Activity: 868
Merit: 1006
February 12, 2015, 02:15:24 PM
#76
One of Bill Gates' mistaken ideas about bitcoin is in regards to transaction irreversibility.

The following video is THE best video response I've ever seen to the tiresome complaint that bitcoin transaction irreversibility is a problem. Andreas debunks this claim in a few minutes with finesse.

Bill Gates needs to watch this clip so he gets we're dealing with a flexible *protocol* which is programmable and can offer reversals if needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsW_bsFAWgw#t=245

This is why Bitcoin is more powerful than anything that has been seen before.

How do we get him to watch it?

He's not going to like Bitcoin because of the anonymity no matter what.
hero member
Activity: 907
Merit: 1003
February 12, 2015, 02:00:56 PM
#75
One of Bill Gates' mistaken ideas about bitcoin is in regards to transaction irreversibility.

The following video is THE best video response I've ever seen to the tiresome complaint that bitcoin transaction irreversibility is a problem. Andreas debunks this claim in a few minutes with finesse.

Bill Gates needs to watch this clip so he gets we're dealing with a flexible *protocol* which is programmable and can offer reversals if needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsW_bsFAWgw#t=245

This is why Bitcoin is more powerful than anything that has been seen before.

How do we get him to watch it?
newbie
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Merit: 0
February 03, 2015, 09:54:13 AM
#74
i know bill gates can create new amazing crypto if he want
but i think h doesn interest with money
legendary
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Merit: 1014
February 03, 2015, 09:34:27 AM
#73
For the first one. Gotta agree, normal people (non-technology) wont be investing in Bitcoin. Most of them are afraid for the rapid changes in the exchange rate. And.. some of them can't understand how Bitcoin work. Unless Bitcoin is value stable, else, people wont be investing in it.

yes true, especially the unemployed, will only look for bitcoin for free every day, without ever buy bitcoin to invest
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
February 03, 2015, 06:27:46 AM
#72
btc its not that depreicatible as terrorism its just a bit of crime and left wing crime associated in east but theress lots of good people using it bill gates and other capital economy could do a bit of btc aproval for it to go as fast trasnactions in money.
newbie
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Merit: 0
February 02, 2015, 10:00:03 AM
#71
For the first one. Gotta agree, normal people (non-technology) wont be investing in Bitcoin. Most of them are afraid for the rapid changes in the exchange rate. And.. some of them can't understand how Bitcoin work. Unless Bitcoin is value stable, else, people wont be investing in it.

Volatility, a heaven for the majority of traders.

Exactly, it';s this volatility that makes it possible to profit, only people obviously don't like it when it doesnt go the way they want it to but that's part of the game that they need to understand. The hodlers and long term believers don't really care about minor fluctuations.
Yup but we eventually need the price to stabilize otherwise we can never use it on daily shopping.

Why not? It's not idea but people are still using the currency now even despite it's fluctuations. Merchants will be protected by using a payment processor so there's no excuses there.
full member
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Merit: 100
February 02, 2015, 09:52:38 AM
#70
At least he's not toting it as a ponzi scheme with fake magic money...

He's saying it fuels the terrorist economy. Much better?
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1014
February 02, 2015, 09:50:49 AM
#69
For the first one. Gotta agree, normal people (non-technology) wont be investing in Bitcoin. Most of them are afraid for the rapid changes in the exchange rate. And.. some of them can't understand how Bitcoin work. Unless Bitcoin is value stable, else, people wont be investing in it.

Volatility, a heaven for the majority of traders.

Exactly, it';s this volatility that makes it possible to profit, only people obviously don't like it when it doesnt go the way they want it to but that's part of the game that they need to understand. The hodlers and long term believers don't really care about minor fluctuations.
Yup but we eventually need the price to stabilize otherwise we can never use it on daily shopping.
member
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
February 02, 2015, 06:25:13 AM
#68
For the first one. Gotta agree, normal people (non-technology) wont be investing in Bitcoin. Most of them are afraid for the rapid changes in the exchange rate. And.. some of them can't understand how Bitcoin work. Unless Bitcoin is value stable, else, people wont be investing in it.

Volatility, a heaven for the majority of traders.

Exactly, it';s this volatility that makes it possible to profit, only people obviously don't like it when it doesnt go the way they want it to but that's part of the game that they need to understand. The hodlers and long term believers don't really care about minor fluctuations.
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