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Topic: Bill Gates 3 problems with BTC - page 6. (Read 6695 times)

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January 23, 2015, 09:36:40 PM
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+ Exactly, he does not understand bitcoin hence the 2nd and 3rd points are totally moot.

You cant have a trustless system with reversals.... lol thats like he wants to sell windows with opensource code.

2 - it is an advantage, but can be solved(?) if you use escrow or a 3rd part processor.

Exactly. You could optionally select to use some kind of 3rd party escrow type entity in a bitcoin transaction if you wanted to. It just isn't mandatory. It's one of those higher level layers that CAN be programmed on top of the Bitcoin network. So even that is a POSSIBILITY.
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January 23, 2015, 09:35:56 PM
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I can see why the 1 and 2 are bad but the 3 is ludicrous.
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January 23, 2015, 09:33:05 PM
#6
1 - he meant people can't rely on Bitcoin price. Don't trust price and the protocol are two different things. And the same thing can be applied to most investment, if not all. Poor people can't invest much, if at all, by definition.

2 - it is an advantage, but can be solved(?) if you use escrow or a 3rd part processor.

3 - there are clear advantages of not giving away info for some people(they won't steal your identity or clone your cards, for example)
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January 23, 2015, 09:32:34 PM
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I feel like when Bill Gates says these things it shows he doesn't have a very deep understanding of Bitcoin as a protocol. But to give him some credit, he has come a long ways in the past month or two, so I just tell myself that he is still in the learning curve. I think he will get it more and more, including the answers to his concerns.

On the other hand, I feel like for him to be the richest man on Earth and such a huge visionary and pioneer, his complaints are incredibly short-sighted for him not to see the full potential.

He seems to think of Bitcoin as only a high level layer when he names these issues, when in fact it's a protocol which is programmable. All three of those complaints can be resolved by software being implemented to address these points.

 His complaints are what the uninformed complain about. Yes they are legitimate issues presently, but they can easily be overcome. He seems to think they are complete stops when they are not at all.

As one example, think of all the possible choices of financial intermediaries that will be developed to enable customer safety for transactions reversals. This CAN be implemented and will be. It doesn't have to be also. That's the beauty of Bitcoin. You have the power to do whatever you want with it. Why can't he see this?

+ Exactly, he does not understand bitcoin hence the 2nd and 3rd points are totally moot.

You cant have a trustless system with reversals.... lol thats like he wants to sell windows with opensource code.
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January 23, 2015, 09:30:47 PM
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For the first one. Gotta agree, normal people (non-technology) wont be investing in Bitcoin. Most of them are afraid for the rapid changes in the exchange rate. And.. some of them can't understand how Bitcoin work. Unless Bitcoin is value stable, else, people wont be investing in it.

Chicken and egg problem my friend,

To have stable exchange the market cap of bitcoin must be ALOT higher with many more tx (fiat to BTC and vice versa).

It will get there slowly i'm sure. Ppl who look at bitcoin long term can happily hold btc without worrying about short term fluctuation.

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January 23, 2015, 09:28:08 PM
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When Bill Gates says these things it shows he doesn't have a very deep understanding of Bitcoin as a protocol. But to give him some credit, he has come a long ways in the past month or two, so I just tell myself that he is still in the learning curve. I think he will get it more and more as time goes on, including the answers to his concerns. At least I sure hope so.

On the other hand, I feel like for him to be such a huge visionary and pioneer, his concerns are pretty short-sighted of him. Solutions to these issues can and will be programmed and developed. It's only a matter of time.

It appears that he only currently thinks with Bitcoin as being a high level layer when he names off these concerns, when in fact Bitcoin is a protocol which is programmable.

As one example, think of all the possible choices of financial intermediaries that will be developed to enable customer safety for transactions reversals. This CAN be implemented and will be. Things like PayPal for Bitcoin. It doesn't mean that will be required, but that's the beauty of Bitcoin, the protocol: You have the power to do whatever you want with it. Why doesn't he see this? I think more education needed on his part.
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January 23, 2015, 09:19:31 PM
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For the first one. Gotta agree, normal people (non-technology) wont be investing in Bitcoin. Most of them are afraid for the rapid changes in the exchange rate. And.. some of them can't understand how Bitcoin work. Unless Bitcoin is value stable, else, people wont be investing in it.
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January 23, 2015, 09:14:04 PM
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Poor people cannot currently rely on bitcoin

“The effort to make sure your bitcoin provider isn’t going to lose your money and your understanding of the volatility of bitcoin — I’d hardly say that it’s ready for, you know, poor people to have it go up and down by a factor of two and, you know — ‘Oops, I was at Mt. Gox. Now that’s not good. Now I’m at Bit-whatever.’”

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Lack of transaction reversals

“So that basic technology shows that digital can do these things very cheaply, and the fees that have been building up over time won’t stand up even for small transactions. Now making sure that the thing is fraud-resistant and that money can be refunded – there’s somebody that you call up if you think you transferred to the wrong account or your account balance is not what you’d expect.”

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Potential Anonymity

“Also governments, for most transactions, will want attribution, that is, the idea of a system where you can’t see — is that drug money, is it terrorist money? Should that be taxed? You’re going to have some tension between the attributed systems like credit card [or] debit card systems where there’s actually a record of who’s engaging and the purely anonymous ones. The one where I see it getting to critical mass, along with the government regulatory support we need is where it’s attributed; where we can see who actually did this transaction.”

http://insidebitcoins.com/news/bill-gates-3-criticisms-of-bitcoin

The last one isn't a problem for me but the first two are. The bigger problem is having no incentive to adopt BTC for ordinary people.
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