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November 20, 2021, 09:09:25 AM
#27
It occurred to me that Binance may be playing hard now hoping to encourage users to pay back the money if they still have access to the withdrawal address, with a premeditated plan to take their own losses later. It could be they don't want to risk giving people the feeling they can keep the money.
If that's the case, they may release funds later. But that's just me speculating on some sort of twisted decency.

I tried to find if there's already a lawsuit about this, but all I found was this:
Binance CEO Changpeng “CZ” Zhao ~ said, “to be honest, I don’t get dogecoin.”
Well, that's an understatement!

I agree with you. Suppose I have access to the wallet that used before and I received that amount from Binance. If I have a bad intention to not return them, it will be hard for them to get back money from me.

Most people won't return the Doge amount if they have less amount on Binance that they receive.

Suppose I have $500 on my Binance account, But I received $1000 worth of Doge. If I have bad intentions, I might run away from Binance.

At the same point, Suppose I have $500 on Binance and They send $100 worth of Dogecoin to the wallet where I don't have access anymore, if they force me, I have to return the $100 so I can get my $500.

It would be good if Binance do what you've said.
We wish if Binance do that. 🙏
legendary
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November 20, 2021, 04:56:30 AM
#26
It occurred to me that Binance may be playing hard now hoping to encourage users to pay back the money if they still have access to the withdrawal address, with a premeditated plan to take their own losses later. It could be they don't want to risk giving people the feeling they can keep the money.
If that's the case, they may release funds later. But that's just me speculating on some sort of twisted decency.

I tried to find if there's already a lawsuit about this, but all I found was this:
Binance CEO Changpeng “CZ” Zhao ~ said “to be honest, I don’t get dogecoin.”
Well, that's an understatement!
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Heisenberg
November 19, 2021, 05:35:50 PM
#25
I have 5000$ balance in Spot, and I have 12000 Dogecoin frozen (3000$), but I can't withdraw 100$, Should I buy Dogecoin?
How much doge coins do they want you to pay back. If the amount is so little and urgently need the money, maybe you can buy, but if the amount is huge, I would say you wait and see how the whole thing unfolds.

It's Binance who fucked up, not you.
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November 19, 2021, 12:59:57 PM
#24
Well, I assume they are not going to unlock your account till you did not deposit.

They ruined a few people's dreams and life.

There is another scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371666.new
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November 19, 2021, 12:44:17 PM
#23
I have 5000$ balance in Spot, and I have 12000 Dogecoin frozen (3000$), but I can't withdraw 100$, Should I buy Dogecoin?

Why would you buy more dogecoin? If your account is stuck with Dogecoin's recent problem, you will not be able to withdraw more funds than USD equivalent to that amount of dogecoin. You cannot solve this problem by buying more dogecoin. Many binance traders are currently facing this problem, which is a big problem for traders. This is because binance wants to back an amount of money from all the victims, which is a very large amount at the current market price.
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November 19, 2021, 08:24:06 AM
#22
Update:
They have just informed that I would be able to withdraw fund if I have more then the fund which has been withdrawn to doge. So, if my holdings is 80k and the price of doge is 70k then I will be able to withdraw 10k. but if my spot balance is lower than the doge then I will not be able to withdraw.

I have 5000$ balance in Spot, and I have 12000 Dogecoin frozen (3000$), but I can't withdraw 100$, Should I buy Dogecoin?
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November 16, 2021, 03:23:21 AM
#21
So, if my holdings is 80k and the price of doge is 70k then I will be able to withdraw 10k.
Any reason why they're counting their scam in dollars and not in Doge?

Isn't it the same exchange whose CEO wanted to Re-Org the Bitcoin Blockchain after a hack 0f 7000 BTC from their exchange, but everything backfired on them?
They say Binance is actively working with the DOGE project team to resolve the issue. This sounds like they're once again trying to reverse transactions.

Nice to see they (ab)use their fuckup to pretend their made-up centralized tokens are real Doge:
users are still able to withdraw DOGE on other networks during this time.

I can't find any of this on Binance's own site, only external sites mention that Binance is blaming their users for their own problems.



Providing some clarification the Binance situation: 1) A bit over a year ago, Binance notified us that they had stuck transactions. We were not shown these transactions, but it was suggested that they were 'stuck' due to insufficient fees...

2) Binance opted to resend/reissue these transactions. We instructed Binance to use the inputs to the stuck transactions to force them to be invalidated by the replacement transactions. We were not notified as to whether or not they followed these instructions...

3) Binance later notified us that they had account reconciliation issues. We were unable to reproduce those issues with the data we were given by Binance, but we suggested (months ago, now) issuing -zapwallettxes to mitigate the issue...

4) Yesterday we were notified that previously stuck transactions (insufficient fee) had suddenly relayed successfully, post 1.14.5 update - likely because minfees have been lowered in 1.14.5...

5) The sole example we have, from Binance, is a transaction with fees which are valid as of v1.14.5, but were invalid (too low) in 1.14.3 and before. Note, Binance updated directly from v1.14.3 to 1.14.5, in the past few days...

6) Currently what we believe has happened is the previously stuck transactions have been retried automatically, as would happen on each node restart after upgrade - and went through, since now the minfee is lower....

7) Takeaways: Invalid transactions don't have a defined timeout limit, but are typically disposed of due to memory limits. However they can hang around if mempool isn't maintained...

8) Correct handling to cancel a transaction is to spend the to-be-cancelled transaction's inputs to a different transaction, which invalidates the first...

9) For any providers with concerns about stagnant invalid transactions, we recommend stopping the nodes, removing the mempool.dat file just in case, and then starting the node with -zapwallettxes....

10) Moreover, this should likely be done as a routine maintenance practice; especially if you know that a number of invalid transactions have been reissued.
TL;DR: Binance messed up and blames someone else.



Imagine you go to an ATM and take out $500. A year later, the same ATM spits out $100,000 when you're not around and the bank wants you to pay it back! That's basically what Binance is doing now.



Suggestion: fix "Binance" in the title.
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November 15, 2021, 10:58:48 PM
#20
Update:
They have just informed that I would be able to withdraw fund if I have more then the fund which has been withdrawn to doge. So, if my holdings is 80k and the price of doge is 70k then I will be able to withdraw 10k. but if my spot balance is lower than the doge then I will not be able to withdraw.
legendary
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Heisenberg
November 14, 2021, 04:50:02 PM
#19
Do they even know how crypto works there at Binance?
It seems they don't.

Isn't it the same exchange whose CEO wanted to Re-Org the Bitcoin Blockchain after a hack 0f 7000 BTC from their exchange, but everything backfired on them?

Those jerks are too greedy to count simple losses they make compared to the profits they rake daily, and think everything in the crypto world rotates around them.
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November 14, 2021, 02:01:00 PM
#18
Do they even know how crypto works there at Binance?
They know very well how crypto works and also know the functionality of bank but they are just trying to lower their loss and for that reason they are locking the fund for those from whom dogecoin has been resent. It is okay if they keep it until verification but if they finally do not enable withdrawal option then many a user like me will be losser and many users even suicide for their huge loss.
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November 14, 2021, 01:55:37 PM
#17
Excuse me, maybe I put it wrong because I use a translator.
It was quite clear what you meant, and I agree completely. I added a clarification:
That's BS (from Binance, not from you)!
newbie
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November 14, 2021, 01:44:46 PM
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That's BS! Binance (as far as I know) doesn't require users to withdraw only to their own addresses. That would for instance make it impossible to transfer funds directly to another exchange. It's quite common practice for users to make a payment directly from an exchange or to another person. And on top of that, even if you owned the address, Binance doesn't require you to keep having access to the address you used 19 months ago.

Excuse me, maybe I put it wrong because I use a translator. I meant that binance believes that I have access to the address to which I once send DOGE. Regardless of where the transfer was made. Whether it's an exchanger, another user, another exchange, your wallet or not yours, and so on, there are many options.
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November 14, 2021, 01:01:16 PM
#15
They explain this by the fact that due to the fact that they duplicated the transaction, which was carried out by me at the beginning of 2020, I must return this amount now.
Do they even know how crypto works there at Binance?
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And the fact that they mistakenly sent to this address is the basis for binance to consider this address as mine, regardless of whether I have access to it or not.
That's BS (from Binance, not from you)! Binance (as far as I know) doesn't require users to withdraw only to their own addresses. That would for instance make it impossible to transfer funds directly to another exchange. It's quite common practice for users to make a payment directly from an exchange or to another person. And on top of that, even if you owned the address, Binance doesn't require you to keep having access to the address you used 19 months ago.

Binance is acting like a bank here, and in this case you told your bank to pay a certain amount. If they repeat that same payment 19 months later, they can't hold you liable for it. What they should do is a big walk of shame for their own mistakes, and man up! They charge users 10 to 100 times more to withdraw than they pay on-chain, so it feels like karma if they now pay the price for being cheap on transaction fees.

They're now just trying to grab funds from customers to limit their own losses. I assume they'll get lawsuits over this.
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November 14, 2021, 12:48:38 PM
#14
I have the same problem. My account has been blocked for withdrawal on this exchange. Support requires the return of coins. I was told that only in this case they will unblock the account. They explain this by the fact that due to the fact that they duplicated the transaction, which was carried out by me at the beginning of 2020, I must return this amount now. And the fact that they mistakenly sent to this address is the basis for binance to consider this address as mine, regardless of whether I have access to it or not.
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November 14, 2021, 12:45:43 PM
#13
There is no way I would accept to pay that amount. Best thing to do is abandon depositing in Binance for now.
For now the main problem is that I cant withdraw fund and I think many people facing same issue. Also those who has no problem but dogecoin balance on their account are unable to withdraw dogecoin from there.

Imagine how they are feeling those who received the fund 😳
I think many people received more than this amount and they will never repay that. But the problem will happen if user has lower balance and no balance. And on the contrary user will face problem if dogecoin sent to the wallet which is out of the user's control.
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November 14, 2021, 08:31:23 AM
#12
It's taking me half hour to understand the case (LOL). The fault didn't happen from the user end. It was done by Binance and they should carry the compensation as well. What is the user with the same issue who has no balance and has not been using? Definitely, Binance has to carry the compensation there. Its looks like scamming user. Since Binance cares about reputation, just continue to contact support and social media as well. They are the ones who could help you here.

Imagine how they are feeling those who received the fund 😳
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November 14, 2021, 08:14:10 AM
#11
Did I get this right? Is this what happened: 19 months ago you withdrew 300,000 Doge ($600) to someone else's address. Binance sent the transaction with a low fee, which didn't confirm. Then they made a new transaction with a higher fee, and you thought it was done. But the original transaction was kept in mempool, and the original inputs where never moved, so when the Doge network lowered it's minimum fee, the 300,000 Doge ($80,000 by now) transaction went through?

If that's the case, Binance did a royal f*ckup not moving the original inputs before replacing the transaction.
Yes you are on the right way. The did the same as you have mentioned. But base on the price of that time is nothing to binance. But if they charge users like me then it will be a burden for us. They may not do anything if the price was same or lower. But now they are trying to blame as now it is too much.
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November 14, 2021, 05:42:48 AM
#10
Binance sent the transaction with a low fee, which didn't confirm. Then they made a new transaction b with a higher fee, and you thought it was done. [...]

If that's the case, Binance did a royal f*ckup not moving the original inputs before replacing the transaction.
Yes, this might the case, as what the binance team trying to contact the doge dev a year ago base on the twitter thread I have linked above.
And now, it seems like they totally blamed their users for their fault and want some compensation as they required those affected users to send the doge back. Lmao. They should be ashamed for themselves.
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November 13, 2021, 05:06:05 PM
#9
I have contacted with them and they told me that dogecoin had withdrawn from my account.
I haven't read about this in detail but I have seen such a piece of news on another platform. Did you try to contact them through their telegram support? They respond faster the
there & I guess you would have gotten a reply and solution. It should be a bug but should have fixed it by now. I can't see any problem so far with my account.

I owe about 80k dollars according to current rate.
That's hell lot of money. Why would you owe that in the first place LOL?
I have tried to contact with them via telegram and no responded me but several scammer tried to scam by impersonating. But they replied me on support on their website and asked me to wait. Yes the amount of money is too high and cant give that as i am not the owner of that account. I sold that only for few hundreed dollars and now it is.......
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Heisenberg
November 13, 2021, 04:49:44 PM
#8
If I understand the story well. This is their fault and not yours. It was their mistake to send allow fee transaction in the first place, and it was their second mistake not working on cancelling the unconfirmed transaction or trying to double spend it since they have the private keys, and they had already processed another withdrawal for you.

Yes i have depositted and withdrawn to another persons wallet. I have not acces those as i am not the owner of those account. Also the owner might have no access as 8 have seen the id was used too long ago. Those id was from dogechain so no chance to change the wallet id. But they may loss access those account. And more important thing is that account holder will not returned those amount as it is big now. I owe about 80k dollars according to current rate. Sorry the transaction I made was atleast 19th months ago. I thought it is 2021 but i noticed it was 2020.

If I was in your shoes. There is no way I would accept to pay that amount. Best thing to do is abandon depositing in Binance for now.
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