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Topic: [BitAffNet] How we're the #1 Bitcoin Mining Pool In The World (or so we thought) - page 33. (Read 99088 times)

legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1000
Is it a good idea to mine here or not?  So much fighting.

I tried this pool out when it first started but stopped because of the late/missing/short payments. That was 6 months ago before they got caught scamming & creaming the top off of miners payouts - reading through this "New" thread (s0br locked the first one when the scam was exposed), it seems that nothing has changed. Getting support is impossible as the pool OP never posts here, although there are many shills/fake accounts who like to post on his behalf...... Roll Eyes

If I were you, I'd use a pool that has a cleaner reputation - it's just not worth the risk or hassle  Wink

Thats funny IYFTech as I didn't remember you leaving the pool due to payments so I went and checked...

    
Re: mining.BitcoinAffiliatenetwork.com - we're giving away 1 Antminer S3 every day!
August 06, 2014, 03:24:40 PM
 #48
Are you having any issues with your east1 server? I just added an S2 to it (lowest ping) & I'm seeing massive hash swings poolside with terrible efficiency/discard/invalid rates....

   
Re: mining.BitcoinAffiliatenetwork.com - we're giving away 1 Antminer S3 every day!
August 06, 2014, 03:51:01 PM
 #51
I changed to west1 as soon as I posted - is there any way to reset the stats page so I can start monitoring from scratch?


   
Re: mining.BitcoinAffiliatenetwork.com - we're giving away 1 Antminer S3 every day!
August 06, 2014, 04:07:08 PM
 #53
Quote from: s0br on August 06, 2014, 03:53:02 PM
Quote from: IYFTech on August 06, 2014, 03:51:01 PM
I changed to west1 as soon as I posted - is there any way to reset the stats page so I can start monitoring from scratch?

Yes, I can reset your system.. just PM me your username over...

PM'd.  I got problems there too - disconnects & the diff starts off at 64 then shoots up to over 11K! I've used this S2 on other pools without issue, so I know it's not a miner problem....

Sorry, but there seems to be too many stability problems here ATM - I'll give it another try later when the problems have been ironed out.

Good luck  Smiley



full member
Activity: 237
Merit: 100
I'm no hater - I just think it's scandalous that people let s0br get away with stealing, lying & scamming miners. As should everyone. Speaking of scamming, here's another classic from their first thread:



Of course, if you're OK with losing over 7% of your earnings, zero support, lies, fake accounts, fake givaways, fake pictures, late payments, missing payments, etc, etc with no explanation whatsoever on a pool that is using stolen hardware - then by all means knock yourself out and mine here  Wink

Miners need to know what they are letting themselves in for here, especially noobs who don't know any better.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Big Bit Mine
Well I'm mining with them and all seems ok so far.  Will keep a close eye on it.

Very nice dashboard though.  Site is excellent.  All pools are like Marmite though.  If you find something you like then good for you.  If you're a hater that's your issue.
full member
Activity: 237
Merit: 100
Is it a good idea to mine here or not?  So much fighting.

I tried this pool out when it first started but stopped because of the late/missing/short payments. That was 6 months ago before they got caught scamming & creaming the top off of miners payouts - reading through this "New" thread (s0br locked the first one when the scam was exposed), it seems that nothing has changed. Getting support is impossible as the pool OP never posts here, although there are many shills/fake accounts who like to post on his behalf...... Roll Eyes

If I were you, I'd use a pool that has a cleaner reputation - it's just not worth the risk or hassle  Wink

Exactly. This is taken from their first locked thread, note the date:



If you browse through the first BAN thread, you will see many, many complaints like this. s0br has been ripping off miners since the start - that is why he doesn't post & is why he disappeared for 2 months before opening this "new" BAN thread, hoping the community had forgotten about his rip-off pool. You can read more about it here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8588793

Edit: At least they're only creaming 7.7 % off your earnings now - about half of what they were stealing..... Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
WANTED: Active dev to fix & re-write p2pool in C
Is it a good idea to mine here or not?  So much fighting.

I tried this pool out when it first started but stopped because of the late/missing/short payments. That was 6 months ago before they got caught scamming & creaming the top off of miners payouts - reading through this "New" thread (s0br locked the first one when the scam was exposed), it seems that nothing has changed. Getting support is impossible as the pool OP never posts here, although there are many shills/fake accounts who like to post on his behalf...... Roll Eyes

If I were you, I'd use a pool that has a cleaner reputation - it's just not worth the risk or hassle  Wink
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
Big Bit Mine
Is it a good idea to mine here or not?  So much fighting.
sr. member
Activity: 290
Merit: 262
Is maith liom bitcoin
rkinnin,

I'm not sure if that was for me or kano. I don't run a pool, I run a site which among other things reviews mining pools at http://bitcoinsinireland.com/category/bitcoin-mining-pools/ and that's how I came across BAN via the mining thing on blocktrail. And also, there's been edits to this review as things have gone (just like to BTC Guild when they made changes), so the most recent edit when I got back from my holidays (after a reader had mentioned it), did say that there were delays to some payments, although in my experience they caught up to date. Mind you, I was away 24 jan - 9 feb, and my miners http://bitcoinsinireland.com/the-bitcoinsinireland-review-mining-rig/ were offline while I was away getting serviced, cleaned out, and pencil modded. And I thought it was standard practice that most pools hold a chunk of funds outside of the hot wallet that their pool software uses for managing payouts.  

At the moment, doing up reviews for Slush, Antpool, CKPool, Eclipse MC, Bitminter, MMPool and Triple Mining, and then will continue to go through all of the other publically joinable pools in the 1 year, pool distribution list at https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC

And for context, ...Really and an organised group of people/accounts jumped on my review when I had done my first 4 at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=837551.0;wap2, which blitzed nearly half a dozen very insulting comments - at 3am my time - which set my phone ringing like a mad thing, waking my wife and me. Which were trigged by this post -
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9375692

...Really was pissed off well before this came on, and I think most people will make up their own judgement on his continual trolling. I don't tolerate anonymous abuse. Constructive criticism, always, and if I'm pointed out wrong/incorrect on something, I amend it.

legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1077
Good run of blocks found lately about time we had some luck Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 316
Merit: 250
So ... what happened with this?
Someone earlier posted that they get transparent emails ... so I guess the emails explained it also?

Kano, no offence. But I'm mining on your pool right now, and your interface is shocking. You don't even show people how much they've earned, your stats is the wallet address with no basic information that i'm supposed to search for my wallet address, and manually add up the payments. So it's a bit rich for you to be talking. i see everything on BAN, and my wallet matches up

And if s0br made a mistake with the way the difficulty change was calculated, he's human ffs. noone was put out and it was fixed.

seems odd to me that someone who runs their own pool is also on another pool.  I am really not sure what to make of this.
sr. member
Activity: 305
Merit: 250
noone was put out and it was fixed.

From BAN:

Code:
Time: 2015-02-12 00:59:27 Total Amount: 0.37029366 (Payout: 0.36662739 + Bonus: 0.00366627) Donation: 0 Shares: 651942897 Avg Hashrate from last payment: 2,937.76 GH/s

The math on that comes out 5.623612002 E-10.  That is almost exactly the new share rate, not the rate that the shares were mined at.

Fixed?  Huh

legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
So ... what happened with this?
Someone earlier posted that they get transparent emails ... so I guess the emails explained it also?

Kano, no offence. But I'm mining on your pool right now, and your interface is shocking. You don't even show people how much they've earned, your stats is the wallet address with no basic information that i'm supposed to search for my wallet address, and manually add up the payments. So it's a bit rich for you to be talking. i see everything on BAN, and my wallet matches up
Well ... I read my post ... then read the first part of your reply ... and see no association at all to my question.

If you don't like that I still haven't added the payout details to the web site yet on my site, by all means don't mine there until I do.

But that has nothing to do with the rather simple question I asked regarding what tlhIlwI said ...

And if s0br made a mistake with the way the difficulty change was calculated, he's human ffs. noone was put out and it was fixed.
You start by saying "if" then end with saying "was fixed"
It's one or the other ... it happened and was fixed, or it didn't happen and didn't need fixing (or it happened and wasn't fixed Tongue)
... and you are suggesting that tlhIlwI is lying ...
sr. member
Activity: 290
Merit: 262
Is maith liom bitcoin
So ... what happened with this?
Someone earlier posted that they get transparent emails ... so I guess the emails explained it also?

Give you one guess....... Roll Eyes

That was jammers who posted earlier - he's a paid spiv of s0brs. Click ignore  Wink

...Really, it's nice to know that an anonymous person who's happy to spew shit and abuse will cry. I don't hide who I am anywhere unlike you. You hide behind a name, and I couldn't give a crap what you say.
sr. member
Activity: 290
Merit: 262
Is maith liom bitcoin
So ... what happened with this?
Someone earlier posted that they get transparent emails ... so I guess the emails explained it also?

Kano, no offence. But I'm mining on your pool right now, and your interface is shocking. You don't even show people how much they've earned, your stats is the wallet address with no basic information that i'm supposed to search for my wallet address, and manually add up the payments. So it's a bit rich for you to be talking. i see everything on BAN, and my wallet matches up

And if s0br made a mistake with the way the difficulty change was calculated, he's human ffs. noone was put out and it was fixed.
full member
Activity: 237
Merit: 100
According to their site, there are currently 1356 miners on BAN - so, 7.7% of all those miners income is stolen & goes where? That's a lot of btc to go missing every payday eh?
sr. member
Activity: 305
Merit: 250
So ... what happened with this?
Someone earlier posted that they get transparent emails ... so I guess the emails explained it also?

I never got emails explaining anything.  I did finally get my payout yesterday (after 11 days without payouts).  It did indeed have 7.71% missing due to the difficulty adjustment near the end of those 11 days.  BAN wasn't doing partial payments during those 11 days but instead was picking and choosing who was paid, so not everyone took the 7.71% hit on as many days worth.

IMO, handling difficulty changes in PPS the way BAN does is not the brightest idea.  If there is another difficulty drop, before the drop anyone could set their payout for 24 hours and earn extra for nearly a day at the expense of the pool.  Likewise, always hop off and never let a payout cross an increase!  The pool can probably handle it though-- there are far more increases available to skim from those who do not know any better!
full member
Activity: 237
Merit: 100
So ... what happened with this?
Someone earlier posted that they get transparent emails ... so I guess the emails explained it also?

Give you one guess....... Roll Eyes

That was jammers who posted earlier - he's a paid spiv of s0brs. Click ignore  Wink
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
If this pool has handled payouts like this since the beginning, that's just plain old sloppy coding.  Of course, the opposite of what's happening now should have happened during the last difficulty change.  Can anyone confirm if their pending payouts actually went up by 6.14% on 1/27?

How you can code a pool and not account for changes in share values due to network difficulty adjustments is rank amateurism.

Confirmed...
No payouts from 1/22 to 1/29, then payment on 1/29 at the 6.05724720410961E-010 rate.  Too bad I didn't have as many miners pointed to BAN at that time (I only had one miner pointed here part time).  This time though I'm looking at a much bigger loss.
Hahaha... oh that's just pathetic.  I'm not laughing at you, so please don't take my laughter that way.  I'm laughing because of the exceptionally poorly implemented payout logic code that doesn't bother to handle network difficulty adjustments.  Looks like somebody forgot to QA their code...

OR, s0br is adjusting the payouts manually in line with the diff change in the vain hope that his miners won't notice - & if they do, put it down to diff change & say nothing....... Wink
LOL...

update miner_shares set share_value='0.00000000056236';
commit;

He would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those meddling kids!
So ... what happened with this?
Someone earlier posted that they get transparent emails ... so I guess the emails explained it also?
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
Jeez you really hate BAN don't you?

No, just liars, scammers & thieves. Doesn't everyone?

Seems to me that you are the only one over here...

Anyway, today we already found 3 blocks so things are looking good.
full member
Activity: 237
Merit: 100
Jeez you really hate BAN don't you?

No, just liars, scammers & thieves. Doesn't everyone?
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
Jeez you really hate BAN don't you?

https://osticket.bitcoinaffiliatenetwork.com/payments.pl?global=true

There are 3BTC pending to be paid and 2 unconfirmed blocks.
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