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September 16, 2018, 03:57:07 AM
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September 16, 2018, 03:14:47 AM
It looks like you were not connected to the internet intermittently. Because you said it was saying only 6%. Please go to your history tab and let me know
if it says it see if it thinks it's connected. Also what country are you from? Some countries have firewall.
Hi, Qt wallet works without problems. In version 1.34 there are no problems. I only have a problem, I think it's in my computer, I'll try to figure it out. Thanks for the help! I'm from Russia.
Did as you requested c:\bitbay\ debug.txt
https://drive.google.com/open?id=19LWi16KnXR6Bs6mg3aIUiQMaL38abKf1
Hmm there doesn't seem to be much about this on github for requests. Well actually the newer release we check urllib2 first like in previous builds. So when I release the update in a couple days will let you know.
So are you running TOR or a proxy or anything that interferes with some web requests?
Hi,! It seems the problem was hiding in the assembly of windows 10 installed on my computer. I installed windows 7 and BitBay Client earned properly. Sorry, What distracted you in vain!
debug.txt:
Connection attempt: 0
Object::connect: No such slot HowManyOfYourBeliefsArePropagatedBlackAlways::timeoutSlot()
Connection attempt: 1
Connection attempt: 2
Connection attempt: 3
connection to network successful
https://postimg.cc/image/dmx3rz3q9/
https://postimg.cc/image/l2wddvu1d/
Yes it was a very strange problem. Honestly I had not seen this one before and found very little help for requests package on github. Either way, two different libraries are usually used for that request it's only to check for connectivity. Some requests are only made with one library because they require it. And all of them can be routed through TOR or a proxy upon request. Except maybe one or two that use cloudflare so those don't like TOR. I think TOR + proxy bypasses that restriction.
September 15, 2018, 04:40:07 PM
It looks like you were not connected to the internet intermittently. Because you said it was saying only 6%. Please go to your history tab and let me know
if it says it see if it thinks it's connected. Also what country are you from? Some countries have firewall.
Hi, Qt wallet works without problems. In version 1.34 there are no problems. I only have a problem, I think it's in my computer, I'll try to figure it out. Thanks for the help! I'm from Russia.
Did as you requested c:\bitbay\ debug.txt
https://drive.google.com/open?id=19LWi16KnXR6Bs6mg3aIUiQMaL38abKf1
Hmm there doesn't seem to be much about this on github for requests. Well actually the newer release we check urllib2 first like in previous builds. So when I release the update in a couple days will let you know.
So are you running TOR or a proxy or anything that interferes with some web requests?
Hi,! It seems the problem was hiding in the assembly of windows 10 installed on my computer. I installed windows 7 and BitBay Client earned properly. Sorry, What distracted you in vain!
debug.txt:
Connection attempt: 0
Object::connect: No such slot HowManyOfYourBeliefsArePropagatedBlackAlways::timeoutSlot()
Connection attempt: 1
Connection attempt: 2
Connection attempt: 3
connection to network successful
https://postimg.cc/image/dmx3rz3q9/
https://postimg.cc/image/l2wddvu1d/
September 15, 2018, 12:51:35 AM
It looks like you were not connected to the internet intermittently. Because you said it was saying only 6%. Please go to your history tab and let me know
if it says it see if it thinks it's connected. Also what country are you from? Some countries have firewall.
Hi, Qt wallet works without problems. In version 1.34 there are no problems. I only have a problem, I think it's in my computer, I'll try to figure it out. Thanks for the help! I'm from Russia.
Did as you requested c:\bitbay\ debug.txt
https://drive.google.com/open?id=19LWi16KnXR6Bs6mg3aIUiQMaL38abKf1
Hmm there doesn't seem to be much about this on github for requests. Well actually the newer release we check urllib2 first like in previous builds. So when I release the update in a couple days will let you know.
So are you running TOR or a proxy or anything that interferes with some web requests?
September 14, 2018, 11:25:24 AM
It looks like you were not connected to the internet intermittently. Because you said it was saying only 6%. Please go to your history tab and let me know
if it says it see if it thinks it's connected. Also what country are you from? Some countries have firewall.
Hi, Qt wallet works without problems. In version 1.34 there are no problems. I only have a problem, I think it's in my computer, I'll try to figure it out. Thanks for the help! I'm from Russia.
Did as you requested c:\bitbay\ debug.txt
https://drive.google.com/open?id=19LWi16KnXR6Bs6mg3aIUiQMaL38abKf1
September 14, 2018, 01:29:07 AM
It looks like you were not connected to the internet intermittently. Because you said it was saying only 6%. Please go to your history tab and let me know
if it says it see if it thinks it's connected. Also what country are you from? Some countries have firewall.
Hi, Qt wallet works without problems. In version 1.34 there are no problems. I only have a problem, I think it's in my computer, I'll try to figure it out. Thanks for the help! I'm from Russia.
September 13, 2018, 08:24:16 AM
It looks like you were not connected to the internet intermittently. Because you said it was saying only 6%. Please go to your history tab and let me know
if it says it see if it thinks it's connected. Also what country are you from? Some countries have firewall.
Hi, Qt wallet works without problems. In version 1.34 there are no problems. I only have a problem, I think it's in my computer, I'll try to figure it out. Thanks for the help! I'm from Russia.
September 13, 2018, 12:01:25 AM
It looks like you were not connected to the internet intermittently. Because you said it was saying only 6%. Please go to your history tab and let me know
if it says it see if it thinks it's connected. Also what country are you from? Some countries have firewall.
September 12, 2018, 05:29:26 AM
windows 10 I'm using
https://s8.postimg.cc/flhyr92b9/image.jpg
https://s8.postimg.cc/e7qbve5gl/image.jpg
all the blocks 1817402
https://s8.postimg.cc/flhyr92b9/image.jpg
https://s8.postimg.cc/e7qbve5gl/image.jpg
all the blocks 1817402
Please PM me debug.log in c:\bitbay\bitbaydata
https://drive.google.com/open?id=18kJUyEanPsVPe2v7rnFgfoh_3cFzyKYt
September 12, 2018, 03:31:23 AM
windows 10 I'm using
all the blocks 1817402
all the blocks 1817402
Please PM me debug.log in c:\bitbay\bitbaydata
September 11, 2018, 09:52:11 PM
windows 10 I'm using
https://s8.postimg.cc/flhyr92b9/image.jpg
https://s8.postimg.cc/e7qbve5gl/image.jpg
all the blocks 1817402
https://s8.postimg.cc/flhyr92b9/image.jpg
https://s8.postimg.cc/e7qbve5gl/image.jpg
all the blocks 1817402
September 11, 2018, 02:21:09 PM
Hello! BitBay Client is synchronized by 6% and does not want to continue. (Client version 1.35) What's the problem, help.
Are you using the native Mac version client by any chance?
If you're still having troubles, please post the problem with details here: https://forum.bitbay.market/c/support, and one of the BitBay team members will follow up with you shortly.
September 11, 2018, 10:42:54 AM
Hello! BitBay Client is synchronized by 6% and does not want to continue. (Client version 1.35) What's the problem, help.
all seems fine with the network.,.. maybe just pausing and will start again after some time.
September 11, 2018, 09:24:33 AM
Hello! BitBay Client is synchronized by 6% and does not want to continue. (Client version 1.35) What's the problem, help.
September 07, 2018, 01:16:09 PM
yes a lot is happening with BitBay .Today a double deposit web market place demo is up and running and it looks great but more features will be add as time goes on.
This will be huge once it takes off and is much needed really.
I still think the totally decentralised market place relying on no central servers that David has created is amazing.
However I think the masses will appreciate a web browser based service in a big way.
Once it starts to take off and snowball it will be quite something to watch and be in on.
Well people want an easy button. It will allow for a super fast system and even mobile access.
The biggest factor is that we can actually keep transactions protected by DDE smart contracts. This will still allow our web marketplace to give merchants the ability to undercut the competition compared to 3rd party merchant service hosts like eBay, Amazon, or even other crypto marketplaces.
And yeah, if people still want to be decentralized all the way, they can still have it! The best of both worlds with a stable price.
That's the other aspect that people have yet to realize. We are way ahead of all the other stablecoins in regards to real world use. While they are busy trying to build their peg, they still have to come up with services that allow them to actually apply their currency to. Most won't bother trying, they will just use centralized 3rd party service hosts to do that for them.
But that equals fees.
They will never be able to undercut our marketplace services because we don't charge anything to use them!
September 07, 2018, 08:37:52 AM
yes a lot is happening with BitBay .Today a double deposit web market place demo is up and running and it looks great but more features will be add as time goes on.
This will be huge once it takes off and is much needed really.
I still think the totally decentralised market place relying on no central servers that David has created is amazing.
However I think the masses will appreciate a web browser based service in a big way.
Once it starts to take off and snowball it will be quite something to watch and be in on.
September 07, 2018, 08:32:34 AM
Update: So far over the last 2 days we've frozen the supply down to 87.7% liquid on our test Clients. 😀
The current idea is that when we actually enforce the peg on the entire network, we will be fair by starting at 0% frozen.
Currently the rate of change is limited to 1% per voting session with a max of 7 changes per day for a total of a max of 7% deflation or inflation every day.
This could change before the peg is finally reelased. We might even make it a range like 1-2% or 1-3% per voting session. The range would be determined by counting the majority of a particular direction. So for example, with a range of 1-2% in place. And for example, 1 vote session receives 100% deflate votes, then that session would freeze accounts' liquid supplies by 2%. And if the same vote was 60% deflate and 20% inflate, and the rest being 20% no change, then that vote session might only deflate 1%
So at 1-2% range we could get a max of 14% deflate or inflate in one day. And at 1-3% we could get a max of 21% either direction in one day.
Still toying around with the ideas.
However, being that we WILL start out at 100% liquid to be fair to the 'bears'. It will take a few days before we can really see a change in the market manipulators that have been destroying investor confidence for pretty much the entire altcoin industry. Unless of course, buy support starts catching wind of what we will accomplish here over the next 1-2 months.
We'll beat them though. I for one will be voting to deflate coin supply till we reach a much more realistic fair market value.
We are the only legacy altcoin in the entire industry working to remove the manipulation once and for all. That statistic alone make me believe we deserve to be over a dollar a coin and will be voting to fight for that price till we can get to it.
I hope you guys will agree!😂
But this is a democracy after all and you all can vote however you want!
What I love about the peg system is that you have to be active on the Client to vote and voice your opinion on price action.
A bear manipulator can't vote to inflate liquid coins and place sell orders at the same time! Or at least not without weakening his true power as if he had no sell orders at all!
Which means the voting system favors those that believe in the coin. And I'd think for the most part, people will want their investment equity protected.
This is going to make for one of the most interesting trading games on the planet!
____________________________________________
And now that the obfuscation error is fixed I will resume testing marketplace items and other features!
Cheers!
The current idea is that when we actually enforce the peg on the entire network, we will be fair by starting at 0% frozen.
Currently the rate of change is limited to 1% per voting session with a max of 7 changes per day for a total of a max of 7% deflation or inflation every day.
This could change before the peg is finally reelased. We might even make it a range like 1-2% or 1-3% per voting session. The range would be determined by counting the majority of a particular direction. So for example, with a range of 1-2% in place. And for example, 1 vote session receives 100% deflate votes, then that session would freeze accounts' liquid supplies by 2%. And if the same vote was 60% deflate and 20% inflate, and the rest being 20% no change, then that vote session might only deflate 1%
So at 1-2% range we could get a max of 14% deflate or inflate in one day. And at 1-3% we could get a max of 21% either direction in one day.
Still toying around with the ideas.
However, being that we WILL start out at 100% liquid to be fair to the 'bears'. It will take a few days before we can really see a change in the market manipulators that have been destroying investor confidence for pretty much the entire altcoin industry. Unless of course, buy support starts catching wind of what we will accomplish here over the next 1-2 months.
We'll beat them though. I for one will be voting to deflate coin supply till we reach a much more realistic fair market value.
We are the only legacy altcoin in the entire industry working to remove the manipulation once and for all. That statistic alone make me believe we deserve to be over a dollar a coin and will be voting to fight for that price till we can get to it.
I hope you guys will agree!😂
But this is a democracy after all and you all can vote however you want!
What I love about the peg system is that you have to be active on the Client to vote and voice your opinion on price action.
A bear manipulator can't vote to inflate liquid coins and place sell orders at the same time! Or at least not without weakening his true power as if he had no sell orders at all!
Which means the voting system favors those that believe in the coin. And I'd think for the most part, people will want their investment equity protected.
This is going to make for one of the most interesting trading games on the planet!
____________________________________________
And now that the obfuscation error is fixed I will resume testing marketplace items and other features!
Cheers!
I have still not really got to grips with the deeper working on this rolling peg.
However.... will there be options for people who are investors but do not watch the markets daily and be there to vote many times per day for them to select an auto pilot option that casts their vote for freeze unfreeze according to % moves in the market place. Or just an option of max deflate until x price like.... max deflate until 1 dollar.
I mean to really build a huge market place like ebay or even 5% of ebay we will need bitbay to really be like what 2-3 bucks or greater for enough liquid supply and the DD escrow to be active for all transactions.
I see a lot of precious metal sellers in the buy and sells but nobody will trust them with their btc.... with DDE then this would become viable.
If you are not actively voting on the Client, but you are actively staking coins. Then yes, each time you win a stake reward from a block, it's as if you are voting for the "Automated Pegging Vote" to decide to control supply and demand. Because your staked block reward takes away from others trying to vote to manually control supply. There is only 1 vote allowed per block.
There are 5 types of votes to choose from in the Client. It's very user friendly. No coding skills are required.
Automated Pegging Vote
Vote to Deflate/Freeze Supply
Vote to Inflate/Unfreeze Supply
Vote to Maintain Supply
Do not Vote on Supply
Ah that makes sense.
I only wonder if we can freeze up supply a little more quickly if we needed to. Then again I guess 21% frozen in one day is good going.
If the automated pegging algo could eventually say recognise a 10% or greater drop over x time and instantly implement a super freeze in a shorter time frame.
Then again David and you guys have obviously thought a lot about this and found the best model.
Can't wait to see how this works.
Perhaps the sec will allow bitbay before btc for an ETF
This together with Davids possible ideas for greater scaling puts bitbay in the primary position here in my opinion.
September 07, 2018, 08:25:50 AM
great job, bitbay has taken a big step to the cryptocurrency world ,i guess this will have a positive impact to the real world!
September 07, 2018, 07:49:36 AM
Sometimes the Client tries to attach coins to blockchain network and it fails.
Just try again.
It also could be because you might only have 1 key loaded. Goto your history tab and make sure the history tab is showing that you have 2 private keys connected.
If it's persistent then goto: Settings -> General Settings and make sure you turn on "Create Debug File on Exit"
Then close the Client and look in your C:/BitBay directory. There should be a debug text document.
And PM that file to David here. That file is designed for the sole purpose of bugs. So of course, David would not allow it to provide any info other than bugs (priv keys are safe, etc)
Just try again.
It also could be because you might only have 1 key loaded. Goto your history tab and make sure the history tab is showing that you have 2 private keys connected.
If it's persistent then goto: Settings -> General Settings and make sure you turn on "Create Debug File on Exit"
Then close the Client and look in your C:/BitBay directory. There should be a debug text document.
And PM that file to David here. That file is designed for the sole purpose of bugs. So of course, David would not allow it to provide any info other than bugs (priv keys are safe, etc)
Thank you so much! I'll try to fix it.
September 07, 2018, 06:29:43 AM
I'll try to explain how this is going to work for us once the exchanges incorporate it.
Let's say the current market manipulator, who bought up BitBay during 2017 and has been selling consistently since Jan 2018, only has 10 million Bay in his possession. He holds all his coins on the exchange so he has no voting power.
And once the exchanges incorporate peg QT wallets. The official start of the peg begins.
So we start at 100% liquid to be fair to the bears.
Over the course of 10 days the majority of voters decide to deflate supply down to only 10% liquid and 90% frozen.
Now just for the sake of example, during this time the manipulator hasn't been selling. He still has 10 million coins to play his stupid MM games.
So now with the peg ratio the way it is, he only has 1 million coins liquid to either sell down the price or place as resistance on the sell book.
After a few hours, the buyers buy him out. He now has all his remaining coins frozen. This causes price to increase too much so the algorithm takes over and inflate price by 2% in one voting session.
So now the manipulators 9 million coins he has frozen, he receives 2% of as liquid again. So now he can sell an additional 180,000 coins before he runs out - etc., etc., etc.
So now he's no longer a threat. His liquid coin supply is being regulated. He is not longer able to be a substantial Market Maker or Market Mover. He is just a flea that can be bought out with buyers actually appreciating his cheap coins.
And BitBay lived happily ever after.
The End
P.S. We actually help the jack ass make more money than his current index bot ever could!!!
Let's say the current market manipulator, who bought up BitBay during 2017 and has been selling consistently since Jan 2018, only has 10 million Bay in his possession. He holds all his coins on the exchange so he has no voting power.
And once the exchanges incorporate peg QT wallets. The official start of the peg begins.
So we start at 100% liquid to be fair to the bears.
Over the course of 10 days the majority of voters decide to deflate supply down to only 10% liquid and 90% frozen.
Now just for the sake of example, during this time the manipulator hasn't been selling. He still has 10 million coins to play his stupid MM games.
So now with the peg ratio the way it is, he only has 1 million coins liquid to either sell down the price or place as resistance on the sell book.
After a few hours, the buyers buy him out. He now has all his remaining coins frozen. This causes price to increase too much so the algorithm takes over and inflate price by 2% in one voting session.
So now the manipulators 9 million coins he has frozen, he receives 2% of as liquid again. So now he can sell an additional 180,000 coins before he runs out - etc., etc., etc.
So now he's no longer a threat. His liquid coin supply is being regulated. He is not longer able to be a substantial Market Maker or Market Mover. He is just a flea that can be bought out with buyers actually appreciating his cheap coins.
And BitBay lived happily ever after.
The End
P.S. We actually help the jack ass make more money than his current index bot ever could!!!
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