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Topic: Bitcoin-24.com matching engine seems broken, site down. - page 12. (Read 64416 times)

legendary
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For example, let's say the exchange is hacked and coins are stolen. I would find it unfair that if I have no coins there and only euro, that part of my euro would be used to cover that loss, since I have consciously been smart never to leave coins at the exchange.
That's exactly what happened at Bitfloor. Bitcoin holders lost funds but the dollar holders did not.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
This bull will try to shake you off. Hold tight!
Ok the impossibility to cash out, ok the impossibility to trade bitcoins, but AT LEAST should be given, and quickly, the possibility to transfer bitcoins elsewhere, I do not think all users have been affected by the trading engine bug, , wtf!

lol, you wont get back your bitcoins / withdrawal wont work until bank account not released  by authority ,
cos if eur bank account never be unlocked  , then you get back only 30-80% of your bitcoins , other coins will cover the fiat loss, will go those who lost their fiat money




Your lol shows little empathy.

How do you know? Has this been confirmed by Simon?

I send a request to them not to release the coins yet as I have no coins there but euro. And I thought it was not fair that all loses would be carried by the euro holders, and none by the coin holders.

However, upon further thinking I thought it was also not fair to the coin holders that they should share in the losses of euro holders, since we all chose ourselves whether to trust the exchange with our euro's or our coins.

For example, let's say the exchange is hacked and coins are stolen. I would find it unfair that if I have no coins there and only euro, that part of my euro would be used to cover that loss, since I have consciously been smart never to leave coins at the exchange.

So I have send another email, saying, for me the coins can be released.
hero member
Activity: 569
Merit: 500
Ok the impossibility to cash out, ok the impossibility to trade bitcoins, but AT LEAST should be given, and quickly, the possibility to transfer bitcoins elsewhere, I do not think all users have been affected by the trading engine bug, , wtf!

lol, you wont get back your bitcoins / withdrawal wont work until bank account not released  by authority ,
cos if eur bank account never be unlocked  , then you get back only 30-80% of your bitcoins , other coins will cover the fiat loss, will go those who lost their fiat money


legendary
Activity: 1001
Merit: 1005
Things will go very very bad for Simon very quickly if he does not refund the btc and communite about refunding the rest of our money. Unlike pirate he is also sitting on a large amount of Fiat, so not too long before Police and authorities are going to be involved.
legendary
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Merit: 1009
Newbie
Ok the impossibility to cash out, ok the impossibility to trade bitcoins, but AT LEAST should be given, and quickly, the possibility to transfer bitcoins elsewhere, I do not think all users have been affected by the trading engine bug, , wtf!

A bug? It's a well known trick!
member
Activity: 107
Merit: 10
Ok the impossibility to cash out, ok the impossibility to trade bitcoins, but AT LEAST should be given, and quickly, the possibility to transfer bitcoins elsewhere, I do not think all users have been affected by the trading engine bug, , wtf!
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 2106
The same old song. Does anyone believe they get the coins back?

when the kriminalpolizei says "money laundering" they mean DRUGS. when german authorities get involved be ready for an astonishing, unseen and unimaginable amount of incompetence and stubborness. also, they always think the worst of what people are up to. german authorities never trust their own citizens. so this may take a while.
 
when they believe its a money laundering setup for drug deals they will seize cash.

some german police officer might have googled "bitcoin" and found "silk road" and "bitcoin-24" and set off a stampede believing he´ll found something really big.

when german authorities get hold of the btc accounts at btc-24 they will surely try to put them in the garbage bin...  Grin Grin
donator
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Merit: 1079
Gerald Davis
Hmm no coins have been released to depositors ....
member
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Last but not least:
If - I say IF - the German authorities happen to realize the dimension of their action and decide to get Simon involved in a money laundering-trial, my urgent proposal would be for the bitcoin-24-users to unite and organize a coordinated defense. Otherwise it could take months if not longer to get the money back from the then closed accounts.

Stand by Simon, folks. I don't know him personally, but I'm finally convinced that he's a good guy, by far not a criminal. He's a young idealist facing a bunch of shit right now, and he's doing all day (and night) long what he can to clear things up.


You guys don't know how the german authorities work. Let me say it this way: Even if something they do is wrong, they do it right! Obey the rules, follow them, the spirit hasn't changed much in the last 75 years in some institutions!

Don't expect common sense from them! Prosecutors / state attorneys aren't really independent like in other countries, they might be bound to directives from ruling politicians! And the City of Bremen has about 16billions debt! I wouldn't wonder if they try to seizure as much as they can, dirty tricks included!
legendary
Activity: 1001
Merit: 1005
This time there is also lot of fiat involved. Maybe we get them back but I dont have much hope.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1009
Newbie
The same old song. Does anyone believe they get the coins back?
full member
Activity: 134
Merit: 100
Just curious: Have any of the involved other than Simon sufficiently confirmed Simon's story of parts of it?
Has for example, any of the lawyers confirmed that they are helping Simon and that his version of the story is correct?

Sorry if this has been done and I've missed it, but there's information on this issue all over the place and the only things I've seen so far is Simon himself giving out information.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
this is the only comment that has been made via the facebook

https://www.facebook.com/bitcoin.24/posts/622449231101962?comment_id=7172850&offset=0&total_comments=11


i think the OP of that thread possibly meant reddit instead of facebook. edit: there are apparently fb posts regarding this in german (which i can't read). he has been active(ish) there the last couple of days. i don't know why he doesn't post in this thread - he has an account on this forum.
sr. member
Activity: 349
Merit: 250
I don't see any activity on this Bitcoin24 Facebook page.  Is there another one?

No, This is the only one.
sr. member
Activity: 444
Merit: 250
I prefer evolution to revolution.
I don't see any activity on this Bitcoin24 Facebook page.  Is there another one?
newbie
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Merit: 0
member
Activity: 91
Merit: 10
FUCK THE SYSTEM!
anyone tried the site yet?   
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I'm too uneducated to click on in case my computer blows up

(I do have adblocker, is that enough?)

This site isn't a scam.
donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1079
Gerald Davis
anyone tried the site yet?   
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I'm too uneducated to click on in case my computer blows up

(I do have adblocker, is that enough?)

I didn't see anything malicious.  It is a very basic site.  Has some info on the situation but not much.

If you are paranoid you should get the chrome extension "noscript" and "flashblock".  Run chrome in incognito mode, with adblock plus, noscript, and flashblock.  If you don't have java installed there isn't much chance of an attack vector. 

Still doubt you need it for this site just don't do anything foolish like give them your username.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
"to be or not to be, that is the bitcoin"
anyone tried the site yet?   
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I'm too uneducated to click on in case my computer blows up

(I do have adblocker, is that enough?)
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Hey guys,
are there any updates yet?

In this reddit post:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c7utl/bitcoin24com_the_polish_authority_closed_your_our/c9fu5yd?context=3

He wrote that the lawyer of Mt. Gox in Poland supports him. Can anybody confirm this?
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