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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 08, 2017, 02:28:15 PM

Is it safe to say that? assuming that everything will go as planned, UASF will get activated and everyone will switch to it and support it. (both services and individuals with more nodes etc.)

It is supposed to be like that because without enough support segwit will not be activated by august this year.
The only danger we have right now is possible split of bitcoin network after activation of segwit.

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Quote from: pereira4 on July 08, 2017, 03:28:31 PM

Only if the hardfork is a failure as expected. In order for the bitcoin price to go up, the Bitmain/Roger Ver/Wright/anything that could lead to a hardfork/ must die and fail. XT, Classic, Buggy Unlimited, and segwit2x, they all have failed because it's retarded nonsense. This should not be any different. Im not even counting BitmainCoin's hardfork proposal.

After all these morons give up with the HF fud, we will go to $10,000. As long as the stupidity continues, we will stay as we are now or crash indefinitely.

We could go to $10,000 tomorrow, if miners acted accordingly and activated BIP141, or we can continue playing games.

There is no incentive for all miners to destroy the technology. People like Jihan wants his JihanCoin to succeed, so he will go all out to mess

around with Bitcoin Core. {Original Bitcoin} How will merchants and big companies support JihanCoin, if he was part of a group of people who

destroyed a Billion Dollar network? He has to re-think his strategy, because the current plan is going to explode in his face. Roll Eyes

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Bazinga!

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Quote from: stompix on July 12, 2017, 07:47:43 AM

What can shitcoins do other than bitcoin? Except bankrupting noobs?

to be fair there are a lot of good features in many of the altcoins (i won't name any because i will be accused of advertising it) but if you look around among them and look at their white papers and read the details of the good projects not just see the price you can see there are many innovations there too.
none of them have yet succeeded at anything though. and i believe th reason for it is because of their price and how it becomes a toy in the hands of pumpers.

You don't have to name the shitcoin.

Just tell us there things a certain x coin is doing far better then bitcoin. And cut the blocks time from the list as I already mentioned that as the only advantage.

if something were doing things far better than bitcoin, then it would have replaced bitcoin already. i'm afraid that thing does not exist.
but at the same time it doesn't mean all altcoins have nothing to offer.

example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed_acyclic_graph
and remember there is always advantages and disadvantages to any of these even bitcoin.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 08, 2017, 02:28:15 PM

Is it safe to say that? assuming that everything will go as planned, UASF will get activated and everyone will switch to it and support it. (both services and individuals with more nodes etc.)

We should not assume, look at the truth, people are still arguing, this will lead to the division of bitcoin, and the value of bitcoin will certainly decrease.

most of these people who are arguing are either idiots who don't understand what is going on and just love to argue and win an argument to feel good or they are shills doing this for some hidden agenda and in order to create chaos.
some are even altcoin pumpers who think they can gain some foothold if they harm bitcoin.

Maybe many of those who support the panic associated with bitcoin just want to take a moment and buy as many coins as possible? I kind of like it. Those who remain faithful bitcoin will become more resistant to stress and in the future, whales will be more difficult to destabilize the situation.

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Quote from: stompix on July 12, 2017, 08:40:08 AM

Quote from: RoommateAgreement on July 12, 2017, 08:32:56 AM

Quote from: stompix on July 12, 2017, 07:47:43 AM

What can shitcoins do other than bitcoin? Except bankrupting noobs?

to be fair there are a lot of good features in many of the altcoins (i won't name any because i will be accused of advertising it) but if you look around among them and look at their white papers and read the details of the good projects not just see the price you can see there are many innovations there too.
none of them have yet succeeded at anything though. and i believe th reason for it is because of their price and how it becomes a toy in the hands of pumpers.

You don't have to name the shitcoin.

Just tell us there things a certain x coin is doing far better then bitcoin. And cut the blocks time from the list as I already mentioned that as the only advantage.

Are you aware that if there will be a fork at August 1st, we will have a Bitcoin and a new altcoin?
Meaning, be careful, you may end up holding a shitcoin Grin

I agree with RoommateAgreement, some of the altcoins bring innovation. Bitcoin has a chance to learn from them.
Of course, there are also too many useless copycat altcoins...

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Quote from: RoommateAgreement on July 12, 2017, 08:32:56 AM

Quote from: stompix on July 12, 2017, 07:47:43 AM

What can shitcoins do other than bitcoin? Except bankrupting noobs?

to be fair there are a lot of good features in many of the altcoins (i won't name any because i will be accused of advertising it) but if you look around among them and look at their white papers and read the details of the good projects not just see the price you can see there are many innovations there too.
none of them have yet succeeded at anything though. and i believe th reason for it is because of their price and how it becomes a toy in the hands of pumpers.

You don't have to name the shitcoin.

Just tell us there things a certain x coin is doing far better then bitcoin. And cut the blocks time from the list as I already mentioned that as the only advantage.

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Bazinga!

Quote from: stompix on July 12, 2017, 07:47:43 AM

What can shitcoins do other than bitcoin? Except bankrupting noobs?

to be fair there are a lot of good features in many of the altcoins (i won't name any because i will be accused of advertising it) but if you look around among them and look at their white papers and read the details of the good projects not just see the price you can see there are many innovations there too.
none of them have yet succeeded at anything though. and i believe th reason for it is because of their price and how it becomes a toy in the hands of pumpers.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 08, 2017, 02:28:15 PM

Is it safe to say that? assuming that everything will go as planned, UASF will get activated and everyone will switch to it and support it. (both services and individuals with more nodes etc.)

Maybe for a few weeks, months or years but Altcoins will always do anything just to beat bitcoin in terms of price. they need to try harder because bitcoin is getting much popular nowadays so it will still be on top for a longer years

In terms of price?
What is that?

The shitcoins can get higher in price per coin can get higher in price as marketcap (see Mediterranean coin) but never ever have hey matched the acceptance and usage of bitcoin.

With bigger blockchain capacity the ltc advantage is reduced to the faster blocks.
Thing that can also be done with bitcoin, although I really doubt it.

What can shitcoins do other than bitcoin? Except bankrupting noobs?

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SegWit2x looks like won't ready before 1st August since SegWit2x testnet failure, so i UASF should have more support and will be activated and will become majority chain if block/chain split happen.
But i think we still need lots of upgrade which allow bitcoin network process hundred of transaction every second while still decentralized before bitcoin is really unstoppable.

Either through Segwit2x or UASF, bitcoin would have Segwit activated by August 1. The glitch in Segwit2x testing was attributed to mempool being empty due to testnet and someone intentionally messing up with the chain before the developers intended to start the test, but yeah the concern over how the mainnet deployment plays out is real. The whole coding process of Segwit2x has been a rushed affair, if some serious bugs pop up when it is added into the main network then there would be serious implications for the whole bitcoin community.

UASF is a much safer option than Segwit2x, but it looks it would be Segwit2x activating Segwit, the hard fork isn't a matter of concern right now, most probably it wouldn't even happen.

Yeah once Segwit gets activated further side solutions can be implemented to make bitcoin unstoppable. Segwit is the stepping stone.

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Quote from: soul-impact on July 12, 2017, 04:28:58 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 08, 2017, 02:28:15 PM

Is it safe to say that? assuming that everything will go as planned, UASF will get activated and everyone will switch to it and support it. (both services and individuals with more nodes etc.)

We should not assume, look at the truth, people are still arguing, this will lead to the division of bitcoin, and the value of bitcoin will certainly decrease.

most of these people who are arguing are either idiots who don't understand what is going on and just love to argue and win an argument to feel good or they are shills doing this for some hidden agenda and in order to create chaos.
some are even altcoin pumpers who think they can gain some foothold if they harm bitcoin.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 08, 2017, 02:28:15 PM

Is it safe to say that? assuming that everything will go as planned, UASF will get activated and everyone will switch to it and support it. (both services and individuals with more nodes etc.)

We should not assume, look at the truth, people are still arguing, this will lead to the division of bitcoin, and the value of bitcoin will certainly decrease.

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Quote from: Amph on July 12, 2017, 04:02:43 AM

if the exchange and merchants that are currently accepting bitcoin, don't switch to it(segwit), then it's all lost, we remain with 1mb like we are now, which is what miners want i think

but anyway bitcoin have experienced a bad crash in the past already, even if it crash heavy now it's not something out of the ordinary, and will not be worse than 2014 dump

Miners want to stay at 1mb? If that's the case then why they are proposing SegWit2X in order to get both SegWit and block size increase, and according to coin.dance, they have the needed hashing power.

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if the exchange and merchants that are currently accepting bitcoin, don't switch to it(segwit), then it's all lost, we remain with 1mb like we are now, which is what miners want i think

but anyway bitcoin have experienced a bad crash in the past already, even if it crash heavy now it's not something out of the ordinary, and will not be worse than 2014 dump

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A big yes, mate!

After this temporary hiatus which is basically to improve everything there is in bitcoin, the price will soar like an eagle. Wink

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hopefully everything goes well, for the sake of my bags.. but nobody really knows, theres always that one bastard who has to screw evreything for everyone Tongue

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 08, 2017, 02:28:15 PM

Is it safe to say that? assuming that everything will go as planned, UASF will get activated and everyone will switch to it and support it. (both services and individuals with more nodes etc.)

There is only a chance of this happening if the hard fork/segwit goes as planned and doesn't flop. There is a chance of the total opposite happening, and bitcoin failing miserably after august the first. Right now, bitcoin is dropping in price as due to pre segwit panic, and how people are thinking that segwit will kill bitcoin, while in my opinion it will do the exact opposite. The hype that is related to segwit is a bit annoying, since there is a high chance of nothing happening to bitcoin, except a small price change. I would recommend not selling right now, and holding your bitcoin, since there is a chance of bitcoin rising super high after segwit, and I would take that chance.

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Quote from: Russlenat on July 12, 2017, 02:28:36 AM

Quote from: digitalgame4life on July 10, 2017, 06:08:20 PM

I think all the hype around it is not needed, bitcoin will stay the same and nothing will happen, maybe a slight decrease of value but nothing else

I think bitcoin will stay forever, bitcoin now have slightly decrees its market value, I think more people are afraid of these August 1 bitcoin split!

a little bit uncertainty it s there but i do no think that people still too much confident about the price of bitcoin. and therefore the price of bitcoin is still trading above 2300$ level. hope everything will become normal very soon.

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Quote from: Superways on July 10, 2017, 05:57:36 PM

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Quote from: zarados on July 09, 2017, 07:48:02 AM

Is it possible, the issue of August is deliberately made to keep balance the bitcoin, so that the purchase price is not too over the selling point. So the bitcoin value will rise steadily.

If it is gonna be just like the bitcoin we can really rely on then I think It will be unstoppable, if we are not gonna rely on miners and fees would become lesser but I have a doubt with it because of the risk that is involve, but I am still looking forward that even if bitcoin would split I only wish that it can still be the same bitcoin as of now, the bitcoin you can surely trust and can surely earn a lot from it!

well it’s another thing that bitcoin has changed the whole theory of its use and of the user that bitcoin is increasing its space and time each and every day so we cannot say that we are afraid of august it will be a good day as others were .

we an also conclude from the price of bitcoin that there will no such bad think happen about bitcoin, because the investors are still confident and they are still investing money in bitcoin, while those people who already have bitcoin they are saving it and holding for the future.

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Quote from: digitalgame4life on July 10, 2017, 06:08:20 PM

I think all the hype around it is not needed, bitcoin will stay the same and nothing will happen, maybe a slight decrease of value but nothing else

I think bitcoin will stay forever, bitcoin now have slightly decrees its market value, I think more people are afraid of these August 1 bitcoin split!

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I think all the hype around it is not needed, bitcoin will stay the same and nothing will happen, maybe a slight decrease of value but nothing else

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