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Quote from: jevee on November 27, 2017, 10:31:21 AM

Hello!

so i recently heard about the deep web, how it uses bitcoin and how the transactions made there are anonymus. to my current understanding of bitcoin every transaction is written in the blockchain and is known and can be seen by anyone. so my question is where is the anonymus transaction written? and why can't you see it?

All transactions are public, they go to the blockchain.

You can connect anonymously to the blockchain, by using a node running as a Tor Hidden service. If you don't reveal your address to nobody, no one can tell it is yours. If you use Tor to connect to Bitcoin network, for broadcasting transactions etc, no one can tell you are using Bitcoin. They can only tell you are using Tor or just an encrypted connection when properly obfuscated (obfs4 bridges).

Download and boot Tails, install/open Electrum and configure it to use Tor (if not already), done.

Don't call it "deep web" (i hate when they invent those stupid terms), because what i described does not involve "the web" at all.

If your country has banned Bitcoin, this is the way to go. And don't de-anonymize yourself by making it possible for others to correlate your address to your real person identity.

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If you bought your bitcoin from a party that implements KYC/AML, that party and anyone they share information with knows your identity in relationship to the original receiving address. If the address you send to is known in this way, it is safe to say that your transaction is known but perhaps they may not know what was exchanged beyond BTC value. Coin joining is common practice for darknet users to further obfuscate ownership identity tied to coins. True Privacy is difficult in BTC. Take for example the large sex traffic ring that was busted in Poland recently. They were caught because they used BTC and their transactions were followed and proven.

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Quote from: jevee on November 27, 2017, 10:31:21 AM

Hello!

so i recently heard about the deep web, how it uses bitcoin and how the transactions made there are anonymus. to my current understanding of bitcoin every transaction is written in the blockchain and is known and can be seen by anyone. so my question is where is the anonymus transaction written? and why can't you see it?

The Deep Web ...
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_web

"This article is about the part of the World Wide Web not indexed by traditional search engines.

For other uses, see Deep web (disambiguation).
Not to be confused with Dark web."

e.g. your 'offline' Windows 2000 dial-up PC is also technically on the 'Deep Web'.

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Every Bitcoin transaction is written to the blockchain which can easily be explored and can potentially be linked to your identity and/or it's origin.

Anonymity, privacy, obfuscation and internet circumvention are all very different things indeed ...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymity
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_privacy
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obfuscation
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_circumvention

Blockchains providing better anonymity than Bitcoin include Monero (XMR) and Zcash (ZEC).

Bitcoin transactions are not anonymous, they only provide Pseudonymity ...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonymity

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Using 3rd party Bitcoin mixers can provide increased obfuscation, but these are generally risky, only really provide plausible deniability and would therefore be mostly inadvisable.

CoinJoin methods are perhaps the better option ...

- https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CoinJoin

The most 'trusted' and open source Bitcoin (BTC) wallet (with CoinJoin and Tor built-in) would currently be Wasabi ...

- https://www.wasabiwallet.io/

Cheers!

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The Deep Web - everything that google cannot index ?

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Quote from: jevee on November 27, 2017, 10:31:21 AM

Hello!

so i recently heard about the deep web, how it uses bitcoin and how the transactions made there are anonymus. to my current understanding of bitcoin every transaction is written in the blockchain and is known and can be seen by anyone. so my question is where is the anonymus transaction written? and why can't you see it?

Bitcoin transaction are visible to everyone and saved in the network. However everyone can own a wallet without providing their personal information so it is hard to track who is behind it.

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Quote from: jevee on November 27, 2017, 10:31:21 AM

Hello!

so i recently heard about the deep web, how it uses bitcoin and how the transactions made there are anonymus. to my current understanding of bitcoin every transaction is written in the blockchain and is known and can be seen by anyone. so my question is where is the anonymus transaction written? and why can't you see it?

The transaction made can be seen in blockchain as in the form of bitcoin address and when it was sent. But it was anonymous since there is no trace of identity in the address when the transaction is made i think the fault was in the bitcoin wallet if your identity was not hidden connected to your address but I doubt that it was public.

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Quote from: birra guzez on November 27, 2017, 11:07:59 AM

Transactions with bitcoin leaves no mark behind it. That's the biggest advantage of bitcoin. But unfortunatelly, people too that advantage and used it in the wrong ways. Deep web business is now done with bitcoin because they are totally safe and no one can track them. It's very unfortunate to see these kind of criminal activities affect people's opinion towards bitcoin. This needs to change by spreading knowledge about bitcoin.

What do you mean by "Transactions with bitcoin leaves no mark behind it"? As far as I know, every transactions in Bitcoin is recorded and can be traced since it was written on a ledger. The only thing that cannot be traced is whom the Bitcoin wallet or account is connected since the identity of the owner of the wallet is anonymous except those who declared it through local bitcoin wallet or exchange.

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Quote from: jevee on November 27, 2017, 10:31:21 AM

Hello!

so i recently heard about the deep web, how it uses bitcoin and how the transactions made there are anonymus. to my current understanding of bitcoin every transaction is written in the blockchain and is known and can be seen by anyone. so my question is where is the anonymus transaction written? and why can't you see it?

Main concept of anonymity in bitcoin transaction is that there is no way you can know which address belongs to whom. Like I have a bitcoin address if I dont disclose that I m behind that address no one will get to know that I am using this address. This is very helpful for people like me who dont wanna disclose there ID

Yes you are right. Nobody knows who you really are when you use cryptocurrency transactions because of its anonymity most especially when you use it from the deep web in this is one of the advantages of using crypto currencies. In the deep web they are using crypto currencies most especially in crimes like online streaming of torturing a human. And one of the best example for this is the ICIS terrorism attack I thought they are using crytocurrency for their transactions to stay hidden and to transfer money to their fellow members because we all know that their members can be found around the globe.

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Quote from: jevee on November 27, 2017, 10:31:21 AM

Hello!

so i recently heard about the deep web, how it uses bitcoin and how the transactions made there are anonymus. to my current understanding of bitcoin every transaction is written in the blockchain and is known and can be seen by anyone. so my question is where is the anonymus transaction written? and why can't you see it?

Main concept of anonymity in bitcoin transaction is that there is no way you can know which address belongs to whom. Like I have a bitcoin address if I dont disclose that I m behind that address no one will get to know that I am using this address. This is very helpful for people like me who dont wanna disclose there ID

One way for you to be identified is when your coin get into an exchange, you are a user will have to comply to KYC law before you can withdraw your funds. You can stay anonymous behind a wallet address until you need a fiat as well because banks or any other gateway will ask mandatory KYC again.

One way they do it is to use the mixers but I'm not sure this time because exchanges today are going freeze your account when they find out the BTC you sent has history. If you are going to deep web I think using the privacy coin like XMR will be safer for you.

The most common questions of the people now are what is deep web, how can we use the deep web and what kind of transaction happenings in the deep web. First, we are looking at what deep web is this a portal use to connect more in-depth into the internet world and on 9-10% of the information we are searching today. Still, the other percentage is we can seek inside the deep and dark web; this platform can only access by a different browser or application. Many people say this website Includes a lot of illegal things that we called now as a black market like anything you want to do is possible if you have a bitcoin. Bitcoin is the first coin of the deep and dark web; this is the commonly used currency as a payment for every transaction.

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Quote from: jevee on November 27, 2017, 10:31:21 AM

Hello!

so i recently heard about the deep web, how it uses bitcoin and how the transactions made there are anonymus. to my current understanding of bitcoin every transaction is written in the blockchain and is known and can be seen by anyone. so my question is where is the anonymus transaction written? and why can't you see it?

Main concept of anonymity in bitcoin transaction is that there is no way you can know which address belongs to whom. Like I have a bitcoin address if I dont disclose that I m behind that address no one will get to know that I am using this address. This is very helpful for people like me who dont wanna disclose there ID

One way for you to be identified is when your coin get into an exchange, you are a user will have to comply to KYC law before you can withdraw your funds. You can stay anonymous behind a wallet address until you need a fiat as well because banks or any other gateway will ask mandatory KYC again.

One way they do it is to use the mixers but I'm not sure this time because exchanges today are going freeze your account when they find out the BTC you sent has history. If you are going to deep web I think using the privacy coin like XMR will be safer for you.

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Quote from: jevee on November 27, 2017, 10:31:21 AM

Hello!

so i recently heard about the deep web, how it uses bitcoin and how the transactions made there are anonymus. to my current understanding of bitcoin every transaction is written in the blockchain and is known and can be seen by anyone. so my question is where is the anonymus transaction written? and why can't you see it?

Main concept of anonymity in bitcoin transaction is that there is no way you can know which address belongs to whom. Like I have a bitcoin address if I dont disclose that I m behind that address no one will get to know that I am using this address. This is very helpful for people like me who dont wanna disclose there ID

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Quote from: jevee on November 27, 2017, 10:31:21 AM

Hello!

so i recently heard about the deep web, how it uses bitcoin and how the transactions made there are anonymus. to my current understanding of bitcoin every transaction is written in the blockchain and is known and can be seen by anyone. so my question is where is the anonymus transaction written? and why can't you see it?

Bitcoin's transaction is not really anonymous as everyone believe. With a good tracer, people who are involved in a transaction can be determined even if it is transacted at a deep web. Most people really need a security before accessing the deep web because with out it, they will be in danger.

And if you don't know, a lot of people we're arrested thinking that they can hide from what they have done in the deep web.

By the history of transaction you can easily determined each transaction when you check it so there is no possible that you can walk through especially when the last address they can track have some identities that can trace you easily.

You can surely trace the transaction the date, the time, and the address but the animosity is intact or the wellbeing of the person can not be known that is why many users like this kind of thing about blockchain transaction certainly you can trace it but the anonymous can not be gone, That is what many people like about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

I guess buying into the deep web can get you into trouble because there are many hackers that can access any accounts surfing around the unsafe zones of the deep web and even the anonymous capability of cryptocurrency is not safe from it.

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Bitcoin transactions are not really anonymous as they can be viewed on the blockchain via the network, however, some persons do employ other technological means to make it difficult to trace. Some persons think bitcoin transactions are completely anonymous but they will be caught when they try stupid things.

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Quote from: jevee on November 27, 2017, 10:31:21 AM

Hello!

so i recently heard about the deep web, how it uses bitcoin and how the transactions made there are anonymus. to my current understanding of bitcoin every transaction is written in the blockchain and is known and can be seen by anyone. so my question is where is the anonymus transaction written? and why can't you see it?

Bitcoin's transaction is not really anonymous as everyone believe. With a good tracer, people who are involved in a transaction can be determined even if it is transacted at a deep web. Most people really need a security before accessing the deep web because with out it, they will be in danger.

And if you don't know, a lot of people we're arrested thinking that they can hide from what they have done in the deep web.

By the history of transaction you can easily determined each transaction when you check it so there is no possible that you can walk through especially when the last address they can track have some identities that can trace you easily.

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It is indeed the BItcoin transaction is could be tracked since the nature of Bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous. The main relation between deep web and Bitcoin is anonymity and privacy. I believe most of us who use that really makes the privacy and anonymity to their first concern, and the deep web is fit perfectly with Bitcoin because both of its offer and untraceable identity if both things used right.

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Like others have shared - it's still used but it's not necessarily preferred as much as other privacy coins. I think with upcoming attempts at regulation, privacy coins (such as in my sig) will become much more mainstream in 2018.

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there is one huge missing point in every post in this topic about deep web, and that is it doesn't exist any form of indexes like search engine and robot to trace all the websites and list to a search engine.
Nohting can be searched in the deep web unless you have the web address (.onion), from the blockchain point of view, you can see the transaction but you can't really connect it to an illegal transaction.

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If the dark network trading, so most people should not use the bitcoin, because the currency is still can track, I think more and more people will use anonymous tokens, so it is hard to track record deal.

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The mainstream media are now cottoning on to the fact that the Dark Web doesn't like bitcoin, thanks to volatility, fees and lack of anonymity and prefers Monero and other anonymous coins.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2018/03/bitcoin-crash-dark-web/553190/

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To understand why, it helps to know a bit more about the mechanics of buying drugs on the dark web. A purchaser buys bitcoin, reviews vendors’ offers on a marketplace, and then pays for his goods. His money generally goes into escrow before it is released to his vendor. This introduces a number of financial choke points and transaction delays: between when the purchaser procures bitcoin and makes a purchase, when the vendor receives the order and receives payment from escrow, and when the vendor cashes out from the marketplace. Those are all moments when bitcoin’s volatility becomes problematic. For vendors, price drops while payments are in escrow might wipe out all the profits from a sale, for instance.

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Quote from: jevee on November 27, 2017, 10:31:21 AM

Hello!

so i recently heard about the deep web, how it uses bitcoin and how the transactions made there are anonymus. to my current understanding of bitcoin every transaction is written in the blockchain and is known and can be seen by anyone. so my question is where is the anonymus transaction written? and why can't you see it?

that is the issue, bitcoin is not anonymous!
there is an old mistake (that is fortunately disappearing these days) where people think bitcoin is anonymous and they can get away with everything.
bitcoin offers some anonymity but not as much as you hope for, specially if you do some illegal activity like going in deep web and ....

additionally these days other coins such as Monero which are truly anonymous and are designed to be just that, are being used in deep web for these kind of shady activity.

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Find a wallet that doesnt need any information about you.
Electrum can be an example. It is just a plain wallet. You send your bitcoin there or you can mix it first by sending it to a trading website then send it to your electrum. Voila! It is a hard to reach after that.
Trading website sends by groups so in one transaction it is not just you there. Who will have the patience to look that deep.

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