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October 18, 2019, 06:13:34 AM
#71

There's no way you could directly blame anything on Bitcoin, though. If these people couldn't use Bitcoin, they would just use something else.

The fact that being pseudonym had been taken advantage by these people. They see it as a gateway for criminal acts considering it took almost 4 years for authorities to caught these maniacs. Imagine of how many videos are being sold from their 8 terabyte storage.

I pity those children.  Cry
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October 18, 2019, 05:54:26 AM
#70
Yeah, we don't should compromise in any kind of sexual abuse. Always should give good direction to your kids. So that they never use that kind of components.
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October 18, 2019, 05:45:21 AM
#69
250k videos? I don't believe that.

I wish people would actually go on the deep web instead of talking rubbish. There is nothing really on the dark web. It is just unindexed files and a shitton of scams and a few weird forums. Buying drugs and a few other illegal medical things. To access kiddie porn on the dark web you have to actually know the address and be in the circle with the rest of these child abusing lunatics. You cannot accidentally stumble upon kiddie porn it doesn't work that way. It's not like they advertise it. Besides the clear web has everything the darkweb has. There is nothing new about the darkweb that has not already been done 100x before. People need to educate themselves about the darkweb seriously.

wait wait  Shocked
You are angry because that site is closed?
I hope I've misunderstood your post
There is no mercy for pedophilia!

Yes, you did misunderstand it.  I was implying that if you give people ways to pay anonymously and they will use it for bad things.  And there is no way of tracing the people doing bad things.  

What a load of crap. You pay anonymously by handing someone paper notes. So are you doing bad things? Am I doing bad things? If no then you talking crap because you just said people meaning if you give anyone the ability to be anonymous they will.

Your argument is just as ridiculous as blaming chat apps on child abductions. We give people a means to chat online and they abuse it? Sorry buy you are talking nonesense now.
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October 18, 2019, 04:11:20 AM
#68
Unfortunately, there are really something like this in the internet (dark web i mean) that do such crap things in exchange of money. And this digital paymeny have been made for anonymous transactions.

Called Welcome To Video, the website relied on the bitcoin cryptocurrency to sell access to 250,000 videos depicting child sexual abuse, authorities said, including footage of extreme abuse of young children. Its upload page specifically stated, ?Do not upload adult porn?.

That's how they ruined the cryptocurrency's reputation for the sake of high money returns. Glad that authorities have settled and arrest those who are responsible for this child abuse act.
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October 18, 2019, 02:43:19 AM
#67
I was thinking of a good title like this - "How Bitcoin help caught hundreds of pedophiles and disabled a child sexual abuse website!" or maybe you could suggest something more catchy?  Grin


and I'm almost not joking

Kids don't get taught to stand up for themselves, instead it's "go tell teacher if anyone does something bad", which is a fat lot of good once it's too late (or if the teacher is the pedophile Roll Eyes )

these pedos need to actually fear that the kid will bite their fucking face off

Lol! I must not be hearing this properly! Kids should be taught how to standup for themselves" as it ever occur to you that the people behind this terrible act normally move in group to adopt children? Even adults are rarely able to standup against 4-5 able bodied men and fight them off not to talk of a kid,
You can only wish not to encounter such people.
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October 18, 2019, 02:30:09 AM
#66

*Pseudo anonymity, that's why they were able to seize the bitcoin of the criminals.


From there, the IRS used technology to trace bitcoin transactions, which the dark web site used to profit from the child exploitation videos. Users would have to pay in bitcoin to download content or upload their own child exploitation videos. The government also launched a civil forfeiture case to seize the bitcoins allegedly used by 24 individuals in five countries who are accused of funding the site.

Imagine if they had somehow managed to pay in cash?

How do you find the location of that money?

At least with blockchain, you can track the funds publicly once the investigation is released and those involved arrested.

legendary
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October 17, 2019, 09:16:32 PM
#65

"Welcome To Video is one of the first websites to monetise child sexual abuse using bitcoin, which allows users to hide their identities during financial transactions.
Users were able to redeem the digital currency in return for “points” that they could spend downloading videos or buying all-you-can watch “VIP” accounts. Points could also be earned by uploading child sexual abuse images."

of course, its privacy when you nake transaction using crypto. but it cant be crypto fault, you cant blame crypto. i think, the owner cause the trouble, and for me it doesnt give effect on bitcoin, but for people that dont know about bitcoin will give negative think because they can cheated
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October 17, 2019, 09:02:08 PM
#64

This is the best example on how bitcoin will be negatively impacted. How bitcoin is not accepted by many institution, and how bitcoin might fall. So, if we wanted to continue utilizing bitcoin and to continue our plans with bitcoin, then we should always be responsible and do our business legally. Even if it is such a small percentage of illegalities, it can affect the reputation of bitcoin and might lead to higher damage.
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October 17, 2019, 08:21:16 PM
#63
I believe that any technology can be used for illegal activities, for example: a telephone, Internet and of course cryptocurrencies, however, the great benefits of a project or system should not be committed just because there are criminals, it is true that cryptocurrencies offer privacy, but before its existence, even if people carried out these illegal practices, then we must strengthen values ​​in society and apply the weight of the law.
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October 17, 2019, 07:51:47 PM
#62
I've found it like that, they use sex to get bitcoin, the more terrible is that many people follow it, we can't get rid of disgusting things like that, but we can only stay away and hate what they do, so we don't belong to a business that they made ..
legendary
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October 17, 2019, 07:29:58 PM
#61
It's not the fault of the technology that it is used for horrible things. Many privacy advocates lament the fact that Tor is used to hide illegal and depraved activities that take place online, but they understand that it is not the fault of the technology and that the technology still provides a net good for the world.

Yes, it sucks that when you give people privacy and anonymity, they use it for depravity, but that's not the fault of Bitcoin, cryptocurrencies, or Blockchain technology. Most likely if Bitcoin didn't come around they would have built their own alternative system by now for anonymous payments anyway. So realistically, the fact that Bitcoin is mentioned in this case is pretty irrelevant.
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October 17, 2019, 07:13:54 PM
#60
I was thinking of a good title like this - "How Bitcoin help caught hundreds of pedophiles and disabled a child sexual abuse website!" or maybe you could suggest something more catchy?  Grin

in the end, tech just keeps making it easier for these people to do this stuff, despite it also making it easier to catch the dumber ones


what we really need is kids like this:

(this is the nutty kid from the 80's movie Mad Max 2 with the razer-edged boomerang Cheesy )




and I'm almost not joking

Kids don't get taught to stand up for themselves, instead it's "go tell teacher if anyone does something bad", which is a fat lot of good once it's too late (or if the teacher is the pedophile Roll Eyes )

these pedos need to actually fear that the kid will bite their fucking face off
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October 17, 2019, 06:22:01 PM
#59
This is what I'm trying to say, that media outlets failed to emphasize the key role of Bitcoin in identifying those perpetrators yet none has ever surfaced discussing its importance!

well, they did report that transaction from exchanges were used to trace the money? I see what you mean, they could've made that an explicit positive aspect, but that's little different to if paypal or the banking   system was used. Arguably, they could have focused on people that were not caught, but maybe the FBI didn't release the full details. Not sure.

Well,  I think we'll just hope some content writers from the crypto-community would make a positive note about it and write some positive stuff about Bitcoin, at least to balance the public's perception about it.

I was thinking of a good title like this - "How Bitcoin help caught hundreds of pedophiles and disabled a child sexual abuse website!" or maybe you could suggest something more catchy?  Grin
legendary
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October 17, 2019, 05:16:54 PM
#58
This is what I'm trying to say, that media outlets failed to emphasize the key role of Bitcoin in identifying those perpetrators yet none has ever surfaced discussing its importance!

well, they did report that transaction from exchanges were used to trace the money? I see what you mean, they could've made that an explicit positive aspect, but that's little different to if paypal or the banking   system was used. Arguably, they could have focused on people that were not caught, but maybe the FBI didn't release the full details. Not sure.
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October 17, 2019, 04:42:01 PM
#57
Honestly this is one of the most neutral news I have seen related to the crypto industry more specifically towards Bitcoin. I've read the whole article hoping for some silent jabs against Bitcoin being the main tool for this crime to happen but I was surprised there was none found in the whole article.

this is the sort of subtle editorial-based slant that corporate media like The Guardian use.


they could have covered any number of positive stories about Bitcoin, especially in their technology section. But instead, they choose articles with a negative connotation, then report on it in a dry and dispassionate way. Readers are left to draw their own conclusion, but when they've heard another 20 crime based Bitcoin stories already in the last 5 years, they will come to the conclusion that The Guardian's financial firm clients (who buy advertising in The Guardian) want: Bitcoin bad ...

This is what I'm trying to say, that media outlets failed to emphasize the key role of Bitcoin in identifying those perpetrators yet none has ever surfaced discussing its importance!

Could it be there is a grand conspiracy to discredit Bitcoin and portray it as the ultimate villain and the cause of all evil? Or either they are just sensationalizing news that has Bitcoin involvement to sold their stories? Or this may be a product of subjective reporting which are often biased against Bitcoin! Imho. Sad
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October 17, 2019, 04:25:18 PM
#56
Carlton Banks has a decent point though - BTC is fairly easy to use for new customers, compared to XMR (where you can't see the transactions, need several things to send one, etc).

BTC might not be the safest or the most anonymous crypto-currency for criminals to use, but it offers benifits over fiat currency and there isn't need for the criminals to use Monero.

The Guardian is a shitty publisher that manipulates articles to support whatever cause they support, and this time they set their eye on BTC.

The hilarious part about Monero, is that you don't get the anonymous features unless you use a console only wallet with the specific options, ie. far far from user friendliness. But that's ok, people should know better. If the criminals ever get smart enough there, authorities would have to fall back to more classic approaches, such as infiltrating the thing, or often, making the thing themselves.

Ever heard that joke about the Communist party in the USA being all FBI? Same thing.
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October 17, 2019, 04:10:12 PM
#55
“Through the sophisticated tracing of bitcoin transactions, IRS-CI special agents were able to determine the location of the Darknet server, identify the administrator of the website and ultimately track down the website server’s physical location in South Korea.”

How does that work then?

How? We don't know exactly, but everyone know that :
1. Blockchain (which stores all Bitcoin transaction) can be seen seen by anyone
2. There are various blockchain analysis service such as Chainalysis
3. Tor isn't perfect and few government (such as FBI) could deanonymize Tor users. Example : https://security.stackexchange.com/q/119146
Carlton Banks has a decent point though - BTC is fairly easy to use for new customers, compared to XMR (where you can't see the transactions, need several things to send one, etc).

BTC might not be the safest or the most anonymous crypto-currency for criminals to use, but it offers benifits over fiat currency and there isn't need for the criminals to use Monero.

The Guardian is a shitty publisher that manipulates articles to support whatever cause they support, and this time they set their eye on BTC.
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October 17, 2019, 04:05:46 PM
#54
That's so sad to hear that bitcoin is now been mentioned to child sexual abuse. In this case bitcoins, popularity might get lost due to this news that will give bitcoin a bad image that it is being used in illegal transactions and it's against the law. It is very important to take good care of its image in order for bitcoin to get more investors.

But glad to know there are some authorities who were able to trace transactions in the blockchain and they will caught the bad guy who abuses those innocent children. We can't deny the fact that Bitcoin transactions are usually common on the dark web.
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October 17, 2019, 03:55:30 PM
#53
Honestly this is one of the most neutral news I have seen related to the crypto industry more specifically towards Bitcoin. I've read the whole article hoping for some silent jabs against Bitcoin being the main tool for this crime to happen but I was surprised there was none found in the whole article.

this is the sort of subtle editorial-based slant that corporate media like The Guardian use.


they could have covered any number of positive stories about Bitcoin, especially in their technology section. But instead, they choose articles with a negative connotation, then report on it in a dry and dispassionate way. Readers are left to draw their own conclusion, but when they've heard another 20 crime based Bitcoin stories already in the last 5 years, they will come to the conclusion that The Guardian's financial firm clients (who buy advertising in The Guardian) want: Bitcoin bad

no different when Bitcoin XT was covered in The Guardian, they used editorial bias to slant readers towards the corporate culture's preferences. They interviewed the attackers (who went on to work for Goldman Sachs invested firm Circle) and devoted a whole article to a dev-team takeover that the users (the normal everyday people The Guardian pretend to represent) did not want. And for the accomplished developers with decades of industry experience and contributions to open source software used all across the internet? They got no article, despite the fact that Bitcoin's users followed them. Guardian quietly kept it's mouth shut, that was their repetent response, disgusting behavior.


"The Guardian"? They only do one kind of guarding: their corporate buddies, whether they're attacking open source software projects (Bitcoin is not the only example), or whether they're deciding that Trump and Clinton (and Bill Gates, Katie Couric, Woody Allen etc etc) being connected to billionaire pedophile human-trafickers is too tabloid
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October 17, 2019, 03:54:52 PM
#52
Get on Tor, buy some bitcoin at an anonymous exchange, put it through a couple of mixers and hey presto.  It certainly makes life easier for the bad guys.  Freedom and privacy are a double edged sword.  Yes you can do great things with them but you can also do bad things as well.  Are we as a community OK with that?

Here's a more important question to ask: What could we do about it?

The answer is nothing. You can't stop people from spending and receiving money. You can't stop people from using anonymous payment methods, including cash if nothing else. You can't regulate every monetary transaction in existence, nor should you want to.

Child porn was being monetized long before Bitcoin existed. The internet and a broader digitization of money -- credit cards, VCCs, e-money services, online banks, and yes Bitcoin -- allowed this grisly industry to flourish.

There's no way you could directly blame anything on Bitcoin, though. If these people couldn't use Bitcoin, they would just use something else.
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