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October 17, 2019, 07:35:06 AM
#31
The core problem is not the medium of payment, but the people itself. Tools are just tools, sophisticated or not. Some will always find a way to use it for something wrong. What 'society' needs to do is to make sure people like that get caught or prevent somebody else from doing the same thing.

Education, inclusivity, and other social aspects must be good. Else, police will always have to work hard.
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October 17, 2019, 07:30:04 AM
#30
It's very disappointing at the side of bitcoin and cryptocurrency. These kind of illegal activities harm and give negative image to bitcoin. They're just making bitcoin bad at peoples' eyes by using crypto for their dirty deeds. People like them are very disgusting! They're sexually abusing minors and even selling it for money? It's on of the reason why some government oppose to crypto because of the people like them
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October 17, 2019, 07:25:11 AM
#29
It doesn't matter which currency exists, sick criminals will use whatever means they have in order to pursue their interests. It's sad but it happens. This is the same reason why you can find traces of drugs on all USD.
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October 17, 2019, 07:18:24 AM
#28
This is the bad side of bitcoin and what forces the government to go against it, they can't control the usage of bitcoin. Bitcoin is widely used in the deep web from buying drugs and this kind of child pornography. Sellers/merchants from deep web most prefer this kind of payment because it is anonymous and security are favoring their side.
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October 17, 2019, 07:11:11 AM
#27
wait wait  Shocked
You are angry because that site is closed?
I hope I've misunderstood your post
There is no mercy for pedophilia!

Yes, you did misunderstand it.  I was implying that if you give people ways to pay anonymously and they will use it for bad things.  And there is no way of tracing the people doing bad things.  
When there is something good there will be something bad relative to the same. This can be overcome only when the public realizes the real purpose for which bitcoin came into existence. When we get to pay anonymously, people easily take advantage of the same. With technology of artificial intelligence there needs to development of bots to restrict such websites from accepting bitcoin.
legendary
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October 17, 2019, 06:53:28 AM
#26
Child sexual abuse and child porn are abhorrent and I am glad that site and its users were busted, of course.  What I did not like about the article was that it seemed to put bitcoin front and center in all of that disgustingness, as if to paint bitcoin with the same vile brush as kiddie porn.  And this is just not fair.

oh The Guardian have been like this for years


Guardian.com always tries to appear as if they're liberal. They publish stories idealizing liberal values, as long as it's not actually happening in a real world example. The Guardian will tell you endlessly that bottom-up liberalism with people controlling their own lives is great, as long as we're just thinking about it.

But as soon as someone actually does something to let people control their lives, The Guardian switches into authoritarian mode, scolding their readers in advance for even considering making a choice that empowers them against the powerful by concentrating on how normal people abuse any power they do get (as in this case).

It's like a psychopathic cult leader personified in print.


And when the Goldman Sachs backed takeover of Bitcoin failed (which The Guardian published a very positive article about), suddenly they changed their editorial stance on Bitcoin and only ever published the worst stories they could find. Supposedly there are still a fair few commercials for banks in The Guardian's pages Roll Eyes


But people are going to read these stories and see bitcoin.  

and they can also read what I'm going to say now and see "The Guardian"


In the 1970's, The Guardian were part of the "sympathy for pedophiles" movement, along with a bunch of UK politicians. This went on for several years, until when the organisation (which was literally called Pedophile Information Exchange Roll Eyes) that was running this bullshit got busted for being, guess what, crammed full with child abusers using it's charity status to organise child abuse together.

The Guardian? Totally innocent of course, despite helping to popularise the sympathy.
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October 17, 2019, 06:42:25 AM
#25
Child sexual abuse and child porn are abhorrent and I am glad that site and its users were busted, of course.  What I did not like about the article was that it seemed to put bitcoin front and center in all of that disgustingness, as if to paint bitcoin with the same vile brush as kiddie porn.  And this is just not fair.

It isn't as if this stuff hasn't been around for long.  That kind of pornography has probably existed since the early days of photography, and before that it was probably done as paintings.  How did perverts pay for it then?  It most certainly was not with cryptocurrency, so that article should have mentioned bitcoin *maybe* one time if at all.  The payment method for such foul crap is irrelevant in my opinion.
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October 17, 2019, 06:38:06 AM
#24
But people are going to read these stories and see bitcoin.

This is how a smear works, but this does not point to any fundamental problem with bitcoin itself.
legendary
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October 17, 2019, 06:36:13 AM
#23
I definitely wouldn't trust Dash with proper anonymity. XMR is a better candidate. It's revealing that its use hasn't really exploded in that area. Just goes to show that even scum prize convenience above safety.

it's easy to forget how steep the learning curve is just to use Bitcoin. We were sufficiently motivated that it didn't feel like a chore, but a huge amount of people would feel lost from step 0. Working out XMR would feel like trying to hack into a military mainframe to those people (I think you've literally still got to run the full blockchain, and use the command line for everything with XMR).


You give people privacy, they use it.

it's like a gun, people can use powerful tools for good reasons and reprehensible ones


and then the most reprehensible people will say "only we should have the right to use guns" Roll Eyes
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October 17, 2019, 06:24:35 AM
#22
Also, I'm still under the impression that it would be much safer to use coins like XMR and Dash. Isn't it?

I definitely wouldn't trust Dash with proper anonymity. XMR is a better candidate. It's revealing that its use hasn't really exploded in that area. Just goes to show that even scum prize convenience above safety.
That's true - there's been some issues with dash's privacy in the past, XMR is definetly the safer option.

It's pretty weird with this current situation, there's a lot of easier options with privacy, that are also more secure but a lot of people are just oblivious to it.

There is an interesting statistic somewhere where it showed that the amount of fiat transactions on the darknet where more then the bitcoin ones.
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October 17, 2019, 06:04:31 AM
#21

The good news is that finally this cyber-criminals was arrested but the bad news is that they are using bitcoin as method of payment for their illegal activities. this kind of news will add another bad impression for bitcoin to anyone who reads it and does not have any knowledge about bitcoin. hopefully some organization could put a stop on this in the future and media should educate their readers that bitcoin is not only used in illegal activities.
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October 17, 2019, 05:49:52 AM
#20

You give people privacy, they use it.
And then they are getting caught by the authorities one by one. And then we have fiat being used by cyber criminals as well. So it's going to cyclical, but I wouldn't call it a flaw, in the first place it was not design by Satoshi to be exploited as such.

I guess this is just part and parcel of bitcoin, others might find in very useful as mode of payment, store of value and investments assets. But on the other hands, bad actors had bad intent. But we can't really blame it to bitcoin, blame the system that we have.
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October 17, 2019, 05:40:07 AM
#19
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There is no mercy for pedophilia!

I hate those people who uses children for the urge of their lust. This is not good and not forgiven. I hope they will never be a parent, they don't deserve it.
About this pornography! there are videos over the internet not just pedophiles must be stopped. there are unwanted videos (scandal) that must also be stopped.
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October 17, 2019, 05:30:50 AM
#18


There is no place for child pornography anywhere and those who profited from this business should be jailed and be not allowed to freely roam in the outside world again...until they are maybe 80 years and by then there is no more libido left to do anything unworthy like exploiting innocent children for the porn industry.

Sad that the main operator South Korean named Jong Woo Son is just a young guy at 23; had he chosen to just be involved with cryptocurrency he can't be facing the possibility of being incarcerated for many years.  I am sure he is also a very talented young man with a good future ahead if not for this child pornography business. Anyway, good luck to him and I hope he can be a changed man by the time he is back from prison.

Now, it must be emphasized that authorities actually got aided by the open Bitcoin transactions on the ledgers in finding out the culprit. So in this case, Bitcoin has become a tracking tool instead of just saying that it has been utilized for illegal transactions. This is to make the story fair and straight. Cryptocurrency (except maybe private coins) can be an ally to those working against illegal marketplace.

This is a better article for this news: https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-authorities-analyze-bitcoin-transactions-to-shut-down-child-porn-ring
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October 17, 2019, 05:18:48 AM
#17
Unfortunately, this was a big issue long before Bitcoin was created. These people will use anything at their disposal, be it BTC or USD. At least something is being done about it.
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October 17, 2019, 05:17:06 AM
#16
Even without bitcoin and digital currency these pronographic activity especially sexual eploitation among children are already rampant in the dark web. Its just so happen that they use cryptocurrency as a mode of payment and thus cryptocurrency is placed in negative spotlight. This sure will bring again bad image to the cryptocurrency community and will make non crypto users think that cryptocurrency is a dark web money. As long as people do not change whatever currency is available be it digital or fiat, pedophile cases and pornographic activity will still occur.
Clowns are very fast to blame bitcoin on any little thing that happens, when the bitcoin start that it's has become the major problem of the world we see all this problem even before the turn of this millennium that's far before bitcoin came in
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October 17, 2019, 05:16:13 AM
#15
wait wait  Shocked
You are angry because that site is closed?
I hope I've misunderstood your post
There is no mercy for pedophilia!

Yes, you did misunderstand it.  I was implying that if you give people ways to pay anonymously and they will use it for bad things.  And there is no way of tracing the people doing bad things.  

You know, I am absolutely outraged by the facts, where children are used in such a way... but you know, this topic is alive for a long-long period of time. Kiddie porn has not appeared with the anonymous way of payments, as well it has not appeared because of the creation of the cryptocurrency or blockchain. Such kind of people also use cash for this, or some other types of payments that are too hard to search or to prove. the problem is not in the anonymous coins, but in not health peoples' heads. I do not think that in case the crypto will be forbidden (just imagine), the kiddie porn will disappear at once. it is a pity, but it is a fact.

But people are going to read these stories and see bitcoin. 
sr. member
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October 17, 2019, 05:07:10 AM
#14
wait wait  Shocked
You are angry because that site is closed?
I hope I've misunderstood your post
There is no mercy for pedophilia!

Yes, you did misunderstand it.  I was implying that if you give people ways to pay anonymously and they will use it for bad things.  And there is no way of tracing the people doing bad things.  

You know, I am absolutely outraged by the facts, where children are used in such a way... but you know, this topic is alive for a long-long period of time. Kiddie porn has not appeared with the anonymous way of payments, as well it has not appeared because of the creation of the cryptocurrency or blockchain. Such kind of people also use cash for this, or some other types of payments that are too hard to search or to prove. the problem is not in the anonymous coins, but in not health peoples' heads. I do not think that in case the crypto will be forbidden (just imagine), the kiddie porn will disappear at once. it is a pity, but it is a fact.
legendary
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October 17, 2019, 05:06:10 AM
#13
Also, I'm still under the impression that it would be much safer to use coins like XMR and Dash. Isn't it?

I definitely wouldn't trust Dash with proper anonymity. XMR is a better candidate. It's revealing that its use hasn't really exploded in that area. Just goes to show that even scum prize convenience above safety.
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October 17, 2019, 05:03:55 AM
#12
I'm sorry. Are there no other ways to purchase these fucked up things, unless you use bitcoin?

They are simply painting Bitcoin, once again in a bad light, making the reference that these acts are only possible due to the services Bitcoin provides, but this is far from the truth...

Just look at the other crypto-currencies out there. Several privacy coins with better privacy then BTC, not to mention the numerous fiat untraceable payment options.

Get on Tor, buy some bitcoin at an anonymous exchange, put it through a couple of mixers and hey presto.  It certainly makes life easier for the bad guys.  Freedom and privacy are a double edged sword.  Yes you can do great things with them but you can also do bad things as well.  Are we as a community OK with that?
There's other ways to do this as well, just because something new has a way for other people to abuse it doesn't mean that it's necessary bad.

Look at stuff like fast food, new phones and technology, etc. They all have a bad side to them, and just because a small minority is able to utilise this side, does this mean phones, and laptops should be banned?

Also, I'm still under the impression that it would be much safer to use coins like XMR and Dash. Isn't it?
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