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bryant.coleman

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Quote from: jayce on June 10, 2015, 01:13:13 PM

seems the people around here like to spend their bitcoin to get some pleasure at porn website.

Don't think so. But right now, there is not much to do with my Bitcoins. In my country, none of the supermarkets accept BTC. I can neither buy pharmaceutical drugs with BTC, and nor get clothes with them. Other than buying electronics online, and using them in the two or three restaurants which accept BTC, I can't use my coins. Some people might get bored, and use them to buy porn.

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Quote from: ed_teech on June 10, 2015, 04:45:26 AM

Isn't there enough free porn on the internet ?

only the ordinary stuff, some more rare kind of porn are not easily finded in pornhub youporn ecc, you need to subscribe to those site tha offer the demo for free(there are plenty of those)

i tried with torrent, but there wasn't everything, not to mention that with torrent file, you can come across some virus, not advisable....

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Quote from: oblivi on June 10, 2015, 01:06:05 PM

1) This is like saying people will not use email because they aren't computer savyy back in the day
2) This is a good point, but you could need ID verification anyway
3) This could be solved by having a regulation that says business running under BTC must re-send money if the rebill request is legit
4) Again we are on the early ages, this gets solved itself with time and popularity
5) Same as 3)
6) Porn is all over the internet and producers have no idea who originally uploaded it lol, BTC is nothing new in this regard

I'm sorry, English isn't my native language, so i guess i must have used the wrong intonation. The point i wanted to convey was NOT that bitcoin and porn will NEVER mix, merely that there is a long road ahead before porn and bitcoin will actually work in most pornsites.

I'm in the adult business as an affiliate for 16 years now, and i can can honestly say that i believe all my points are 100% valid for the time being... I'm not talking about "in 5 years" or "after (self) regulation" or "after these extra services are invented to circumvent the current shortcomings"

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seems the people around here like to spend their bitcoin to get some pleasure at porn website.

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Quote from: altcoinhosting on June 10, 2015, 04:14:27 AM

There are some considerations on using BTC for adult related websites.

1) A lot of paying users are not to computer-savvy. I hardly doubt they would have a bitcoin wallet
2) BTC = no age verification
3) as being said before, no rebills when using BTC
4) A lot of $$$ for website owners is also coming from "upselling" (selling adult memberships from within the member area). This won't happen as long as BTC isn't accepted by the majority of adult paysites (it's a chicken or egg situation)
5) the user doesn't have the possibility of a chargeback, unless using an adult escrow service for the duration of the legal chargeback period. This might sound great for website owners, but i think visitors will be less interested in case they cannot chargeback their money if the adult site fails to deliver.
6) anonymity in case of abuse (you don't know who has acces to your copyrighted material, so you have no clue who's the culprit when your new movies pop up on the piratebay)

I'm afraid, for now, an adult membership payed in BTC would have to be twice the price as a membership payed with VISA or mastercard in order to be profitable Sad

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On the other hand, i would love it if some more adult affiliate programs (webmaster programs) would pay me in BTC, less fees, faster payouts Grin

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1) This is like saying people will not use email because they aren't computer savyy back in the day
2) This is a good point, but you could need ID verification anyway
3) This could be solved by having a regulation that says business running under BTC must re-send money if the rebill request is legit
4) Again we are on the early ages, this gets solved itself with time and popularity
5) Same as 3)
6) Porn is all over the internet and producers have no idea who originally uploaded it lol, BTC is nothing new in this regard

bryant.coleman

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Quote from: altcoinhosting on June 10, 2015, 04:14:27 AM

1) A lot of paying users are not to computer-savvy. I hardly doubt they would have a bitcoin wallet
2) BTC = no age verification
3) as being said before, no rebills when using BTC
4) A lot of $$$ for website owners is also coming from "upselling" (selling adult memberships from within the member area). This won't happen as long as BTC isn't accepted by the majority of adult paysites (it's a chicken or egg situation)
5) the user doesn't have the possibility of a chargeback, unless using an adult escrow service for the duration of the legal chargeback period. This might sound great for website owners, but i think visitors will be less interested in case they cannot chargeback their money if the adult site fails to deliver.
6) anonymity in case of abuse (you don't know who has acces to your copyrighted material, so you have no clue who's the culprit when your new movies pop up on the piratebay)

All the other points are OK. But #2 is the trouble-maker. As government requires porn sites to block anyone under the age of 18, these websites might make it mandatory for people using Bitcoins to identify themselves. The users might be forced to give their Social Security Number, or Passport Number, to prove that they are above 18 years of age.

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Quote from: dollarneed on June 10, 2015, 04:03:08 AM

with anonimity of the bitcoin people would like to paid with bitcoin especially for their needs which they wont people recognize them using porn site,and this is an advantage for porn site

And they want an happiness with their coins. And also they like watch a live and an 18 years old girl. hahaha Grin

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Jahaha

Isn't there enough free porn on the internet ?

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Quote from: Krang on June 10, 2015, 04:26:27 AM

Do you need to be tech savvy to use Paypal or a online banking? Using blockchain.info is as easy as Paypal and wallets aren't really any different to online banking.

I'm not saying it's hard, i'm just speaking from experience that the common pornsurfer will assume it's hard. I've succesfully setup several sites in the 3D niche, requiring a basic understanding of a 3D TV, colored glasses,... I know most pr0nsurfers will just lose intrest as soon as there is a basic level of knowledge or learning curve involved... I'm not going to argue that using blockchain.info is hard, it just seems hard for a guy who's just trying to see some pr0n.

Quote from: Krang on June 10, 2015, 04:26:27 AM

This could be an issue but I'm sure there's a way round it.

Sure, but as soon as you need to verify someone's age, you need some kind of proof, and lose the anonymity part (which is a great asset for BTC)

Quote from: Krang on June 10, 2015, 04:26:27 AM

A rebill system could easily be implemented, but you can just pay each month or upfront or you don't get the service.

Well, as soon as a rebill system exists (i don't know of any right now), this issue might dissapear. Paying each month upfront is not really the point of debate. The thing with rebilling is that most members will forget that they'll be rebilled, so when they actually wanted to stop using the paysite's service, they will be billed for one last time... It's just plain and simple cash in the pocket for paysite owners... This benefit dissapears when you expect users to pay each month upfront...

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Quote from: altcoinhosting on June 10, 2015, 04:14:27 AM

There are some considerations on using BTC for adult related websites.

1) A lot of paying users are not to computer-savvy. I hardly doubt they would have a bitcoin wallet

Do you need to be tech savvy to use Paypal or a online banking? Using blockchain.info is as easy as Paypal and wallets aren't really any different to online banking.

Quote from: altcoinhosting on June 10, 2015, 04:14:27 AM

2) BTC = no age verification

This could be an issue but I'm sure there's a way round it.

Quote from: altcoinhosting on June 10, 2015, 04:14:27 AM

3) as being said before, no rebills when using BTC

A rebill system could easily be implemented, but you can just pay each month or upfront or you don't get the service.

altcoinhosting

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There are some considerations on using BTC for adult related websites.

1) A lot of paying users are not to computer-savvy. I hardly doubt they would have a bitcoin wallet
2) BTC = no age verification
3) as being said before, no rebills when using BTC
4) A lot of $$$ for website owners is also coming from "upselling" (selling adult memberships from within the member area). This won't happen as long as BTC isn't accepted by the majority of adult paysites (it's a chicken or egg situation)
5) the user doesn't have the possibility of a chargeback, unless using an adult escrow service for the duration of the legal chargeback period. This might sound great for website owners, but i think visitors will be less interested in case they cannot chargeback their money if the adult site fails to deliver.
6) anonymity in case of abuse (you don't know who has acces to your copyrighted material, so you have no clue who's the culprit when your new movies pop up on the piratebay)

I'm afraid, for now, an adult membership payed in BTC would have to be twice the price as a membership payed with VISA or mastercard in order to be profitable Sad

Sad

On the other hand, i would love it if some more adult affiliate programs (webmaster programs) would pay me in BTC, less fees, faster payouts Grin

Grin

dollarneed

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with anonimity of the bitcoin people would like to paid with bitcoin especially for their needs which they wont people recognize them using porn site,and this is an advantage for porn site

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Quote from: Scream on June 10, 2015, 12:52:23 AM

This is the most mindless “piece” of yours yet. I’m so tired of the porn adoption = success trope. This is a lame attempt to tie a novel new technology to the nastiest possible garbage. And that image is disgraceful. I’m no prude, but it has no other purpose but to shock readers and further strengthen the author’s invented link of bitcoin to smut.

Any adoption = success no matter what it is. We need people using bitcoin for it to become a success regardless of how much you dislike whatever it is being used for.

Quote from: Dotakels on June 10, 2015, 01:50:59 AM

Quote from: Pursuer on June 07, 2015, 10:58:11 AM

I think the biggest problem here is that nowadays people who watch porn, don't pay for it. currently there are a lot of free porn video websites that have a couple of advertisements and offer you to watch videos for free, and they have everything one might want.

Yeah there so many site that you can watch for free. You don't need to pay or spend bitcoin for only a porn. You are actualy wasting your time when you are watching that ridiculous porn.

There might be plenty of places to watch porn for free but that doesn't mean people aren't still paying for it because they are. Billions of dollars so. Besides, bitcoin could be used for camsites which seem to be very popular now and that's something people have to pay for if they want a one on one session.

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Quote from: Pursuer on June 07, 2015, 10:58:11 AM

I think the biggest problem here is that nowadays people who watch porn, don't pay for it. currently there are a lot of free porn video websites that have a couple of advertisements and offer you to watch videos for free, and they have everything one might want.

Yeah there so many site that you can watch for free. You don't need to pay or spend bitcoin for only a porn. You are actualy wasting your time when you are watching that ridiculous porn.

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U will never know the true answer, before you try

This is the most mindless “piece” of yours yet. I’m so tired of the porn adoption = success trope. This is a lame attempt to tie a novel new technology to the nastiest possible garbage. And that image is disgraceful. I’m no prude, but it has no other purpose but to shock readers and further strengthen the author’s invented link of bitcoin to smut.

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Where is my ring of blades...

I think the biggest problem here is that nowadays people who watch porn, don't pay for it. currently there are a lot of free porn video websites that have a couple of advertisements and offer you to watch videos for free, and they have everything one might want.

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Quote from: jangloos on June 07, 2015, 07:16:47 AM

For some people BTC is good to pay for porn related activities.These payments will help them to hide their direct identity revelation.

Exactly, btc is an excellent payment method for porn (if people even pay for it nowadays). No more having to hide your credit card bills from the wife so she can't see the midget porn videos you've been watching.

Better yet, if you're in the UK you can pay for escorts to come round to your house: https://www.dailydot.com/business/british-escort-service-accepting-bitcoins/

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The porn reaches its maximum freedom with bitcoin, privacy, anonymous and fast payments.

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For some people BTC is good to pay for porn related activities.These payments will help them to hide their direct identity revelation.

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This is not Bitcoin which taking help of porn to be popular but is porn industry which is showing interest to receive payments even in Bitcoin.There is nothing strange if they provide Bitcoin payment facility because they would like get paid in any form of money ,no matter if it is fiat,credit card,Bitcoin or social help ticket which are in European countries.porn industry would accept everything which can be redeemed or used to spend for further things.

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