Bitcoin Can Gain 100% In 2020 - Halving Not Priced In, Says Fundstrat - page 2.

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Quote from: NathanJB on January 19, 2020, 11:20:01 PM

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In the end these whales will have their own huge share of gains once the btc price spikes and on the other side of the trade which compose mostly of smaller btc holders will just left behind with heavy losses. Unless, you have a knack of knowing these whales moves you will be rewarded.

Not necessarily. You don't have to know when these whales will move. Everything is right there in front of you. All you have to see is the chart and the prices. If there is a pump and you have bought your coin when the prices are cheaper, then you can sell. If you are seeing a dump and you have available money then buy. It does not mean that because you are not a whale and you cannot manipulate the prices you will not profit from it.

Otherwise, use these strategy. LOL.

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I think this year could bring more positive outcome since many people are anticipating the event that could potentially trigger another parabolic rise.

I'm also thinking the same, since the Bitcoin halving hype has been in a lot of discussions in 2018. But, inevitably there are still some doubts that this year would be different from the last halving events, thus causing the price slow to rise. Some even predicted that the halving may cause a worse price decrease. Currently, It seems that the chances of Bitcoin to reach the 5 digit figure again is somehow big, judging how the market behaves these past few days.

Everyone is expecting a five digit figure this year just because there is a halving but I don't think the halving might be the reason for this sudden increase of price lately. Although Bitcoin did break the $9k resistance but it suddenly dump after it reached a certain point of price. I can't tell yet if Bitcoin could reach a 100% gain this year because it is still blurry and uncertain to say.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on January 19, 2020, 11:36:31 AM

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No one knows for sure whether this will happen or not. However if that happens then it will be very difficult. Because when the media propagates everything positively, the market goes towards the negative. Because it is manipulation. In the case of market manipulation, media interference is huge. Media whale spreads news and creates fomo. In my opinion, market manipulation does not make any difference for long holders. If the price increases in 2020 or in 2021, both are good for me.

I stopped reading the media news. I now only look at Bitcoin Hold. I am a long term believer. Great changes do not last long.

A 100% gain is very reasonable in the halving year. It would still leave us below of the ATH, this way we have plenty of time and momentum in 2021 for the insane gains of the next ATH.

A 100% gain is reasonable? I don't think so. It's possible but it's not something that is so easily ahievable. Halving might bring the price rise but only on short breath and not so huge. Also, don't forget there is a possibility for price dump too, halving doesn't necessary briing only positive price trends.

We witnessed already so many 100% gains in the last bull runs. It is very reasonable to expect more of these gains, IF we are in the next bull run. Just look how easily we went x3 in the pump last year, while breaking every resistance like it was a wall out of paper. So guys, don't sell to early when the real next bull starts. You're going to bite your own ass when you're left behind while the train continues.

And until now, halving brought always positive price trends after it happened. So it is wise to assume that history will repeat itself again.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on January 15, 2020, 07:31:04 PM

I think this year could bring more positive outcome since many people are anticipating the event that could potentially trigger another parabolic rise.

I'm also thinking the same, since the Bitcoin halving hype has been in a lot of discussions in 2018. But, inevitably there are still some doubts that this year would be different from the last halving events, thus causing the price slow to rise. Some even predicted that the halving may cause a worse price decrease. Currently, It seems that the chances of Bitcoin to reach the 5 digit figure again is somehow big, judging how the market behaves these past few days.

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Quote from: iamMhew on January 19, 2020, 11:03:15 PM

In the end these whales will have their own huge share of gains once the btc price spikes and on the other side of the trade which compose mostly of smaller btc holders will just left behind with heavy losses. Unless, you have a knack of knowing these whales moves you will be rewarded.

Not necessarily. You don't have to know when these whales will move. Everything is right there in front of you. All you have to see is the chart and the prices. If there is a pump and you have bought your coin when the prices are cheaper, then you can sell. If you are seeing a dump and you have available money then buy. It does not mean that because you are not a whale and you cannot manipulate the prices you will not profit from it.

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In the end these whales will have their own huge share of gains once the btc price spikes and on the other side of the trade which compose mostly of smaller btc holders will just left behind with heavy losses. Unless, you have a knack of knowing these whales moves you will be rewarded.

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Quote from: bluebit25 on January 19, 2020, 01:10:59 PM

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Quote from: sovie on January 15, 2020, 04:42:07 AM

Don't get too excited because of current bull run, we have whole year ahead of us. Its Iran USA tension which stimulated current bull run and even tension is over, the bull run is still ON. Bitcoin is known for giving huge returns only to those who can buy at right time and HODL. Dont expect good from bitcoin if you start buying now.

But it’s better to buy now than buy later. Personally, I still buy bitcoin every month.

I totally agree with you, we should buy before it's too late in the future. In the future the price may drop compared to the present but it will certainly recover and continue to go up, this market grows constantly after each year so if we invest earlier in this market then we have the advantage. And also I personally buy bitcoins every month, I spend all my free money from my main job to buy bitcoins and hold

with inflation continuing to rise in fiat currencies, it will provide an opportunity for bitcoin to take over the role of fiat, although it still takes a long time. therefore investing in bitcoin will benefit when there is more adoption

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Quote from: squatz1 on January 19, 2020, 12:21:47 PM

Oh isn't that crazy, a guy who owns a lot of Bitcoin thinks that the price of bitcoin is going to go up? Oh, also his clients own a lot of bitcoin so it makes the most sense for them to want this coin to keep moving up.

This is like asking someone who owns a lot of a particular stock, if they think their stock is going to go up. Obviously they're going to say yes, that's what they own it. They can try to back it up with whatever kind of bullshit they want, but it doesn't do anything.

All of this can go up down or sideways, we don't know what way it's going to go and if someone did know the future they'd be all in at this point (or waiting for the time to strike)

As halving approaching, predictions are keep increasing. It is expected that they will say bitcoin will go up because they have positions. I keep ignoring people who keep saying that price will bw doubled after halving, for me it is just a mere opinions and I should not trust it. For those who keep believing to opinions of others are prone to losses.

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Quote from: josephsonand on January 19, 2020, 02:01:18 AM

Quote from: sovie on January 15, 2020, 04:42:07 AM

Don't get too excited because of current bull run, we have whole year ahead of us. Its Iran USA tension which stimulated current bull run and even tension is over, the bull run is still ON. Bitcoin is known for giving huge returns only to those who can buy at right time and HODL. Dont expect good from bitcoin if you start buying now.

But it’s better to buy now than buy later. Personally, I still buy bitcoin every month.

I totally agree with you, we should buy before it's too late in the future. In the future the price may drop compared to the present but it will certainly recover and continue to go up, this market grows constantly after each year so if we invest earlier in this market then we have the advantage. And also I personally buy bitcoins every month, I spend all my free money from my main job to buy bitcoins and hold

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Quote from: Wexlike on January 19, 2020, 11:05:47 AM

Quote from: ScamViruS on January 19, 2020, 10:11:22 AM

No one knows for sure whether this will happen or not. However if that happens then it will be very difficult. Because when the media propagates everything positively, the market goes towards the negative. Because it is manipulation. In the case of market manipulation, media interference is huge. Media whale spreads news and creates fomo. In my opinion, market manipulation does not make any difference for long holders. If the price increases in 2020 or in 2021, both are good for me.

I stopped reading the media news. I now only look at Bitcoin Hold. I am a long term believer. Great changes do not last long.

A 100% gain is very reasonable in the halving year. It would still leave us below of the ATH, this way we have plenty of time and momentum in 2021 for the insane gains of the next ATH.

According to me. If you are an investor then you must have a target. That's what I want to get in this profit. So 100% come this year or next year, I'll sell if I reach my goal. Professional investors never set huge profit targets in the short run. So I'll wait for my goal.

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If we check the previous halving, the price was skyrocket after a couple of months when the halving took place, this might happen in this halving. too. People right now are starting to collect bitcoin as much as they can and it's lead to the price goes up. We might see the price hit the 16K USD after the halving but I'm not sure it can hit the new ATH, at least something big happens so that it can touch the amount.

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Oh isn't that crazy, a guy who owns a lot of Bitcoin thinks that the price of bitcoin is going to go up? Oh, also his clients own a lot of bitcoin so it makes the most sense for them to want this coin to keep moving up.

This is like asking someone who owns a lot of a particular stock, if they think their stock is going to go up. Obviously they're going to say yes, that's what they own it. They can try to back it up with whatever kind of bullshit they want, but it doesn't do anything.

All of this can go up down or sideways, we don't know what way it's going to go and if someone did know the future they'd be all in at this point (or waiting for the time to strike)

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Until now, bitcoin has increased by nearly 40% compared to December 2019. So the goal of a 100% price increase in 2020 is workable, I also believe that in 2020 bitcoin price can go up and have could reach $ 12,000 or even more if halving had more impact on new investors. And in the long term, the price of BTC will always be higher than the present after every halving, buying Bitcoin whenever we can and investing them for the future.

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Anything is possible we have seen it happen before I am sure that it could happen again,
But let's not expect too much to avoid disappointment.
Many things could happen before 2020 we are still at the 1st quarter of the year so chill out.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on January 15, 2020, 12:08:35 AM

The motive behind suspect crypto news published in 2019 remains undetermined.

It is possible wealthy institutional investors had their media contacts publish news to depress the price of bitcoin. To create a lower buy in point. With the end goal of maximizing profits from bitcoin's 2020 halving.

Now whale media contacts may be publishing bullish news on bitcoin to maximize profits in the opposite direction.

News articles published by the media are by far one of the most underrated sources of market manipulation.

There's a simpler explanation - the journalists did their job - reported new events, and the community panicked because the market was already showing weakness. In reality we have news that can be interpreted as bullish or bearish all the time, but people choose to ignore the opposite news and pay closer attention to those that are aligned with the market. No need to come up with conspiraces when there's a simple explanation, especially since this conspiracy is so theoretical - no names are voiced, no evidence is presented, only an idea how it could have occurred.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on January 19, 2020, 11:36:31 AM

Quote from: Wexlike on January 19, 2020, 11:05:47 AM

Quote from: ScamViruS on January 19, 2020, 10:11:22 AM

No one knows for sure whether this will happen or not. However if that happens then it will be very difficult. Because when the media propagates everything positively, the market goes towards the negative. Because it is manipulation. In the case of market manipulation, media interference is huge. Media whale spreads news and creates fomo. In my opinion, market manipulation does not make any difference for long holders. If the price increases in 2020 or in 2021, both are good for me.

I stopped reading the media news. I now only look at Bitcoin Hold. I am a long term believer. Great changes do not last long.

A 100% gain is very reasonable in the halving year. It would still leave us below of the ATH, this way we have plenty of time and momentum in 2021 for the insane gains of the next ATH.

A 100% gain is reasonable? I don't think so. It's possible but it's not something that is so easily ahievable. Halving might bring the price rise but only on short breath and not so huge. Also, don't forget there is a possibility for price dump too, halving doesn't necessary briing only positive price trends.

They can predict what they want but we need to be realistic in things. They can call them experts but if you are a true investor, you will decide on what you seem is right. It is your money and not them. People can say one thing but when it comes to actual trading, you should follow your own instincts.

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Quote from: Wexlike on January 19, 2020, 11:05:47 AM

Quote from: ScamViruS on January 19, 2020, 10:11:22 AM

No one knows for sure whether this will happen or not. However if that happens then it will be very difficult. Because when the media propagates everything positively, the market goes towards the negative. Because it is manipulation. In the case of market manipulation, media interference is huge. Media whale spreads news and creates fomo. In my opinion, market manipulation does not make any difference for long holders. If the price increases in 2020 or in 2021, both are good for me.

I stopped reading the media news. I now only look at Bitcoin Hold. I am a long term believer. Great changes do not last long.

A 100% gain is very reasonable in the halving year. It would still leave us below of the ATH, this way we have plenty of time and momentum in 2021 for the insane gains of the next ATH.

A 100% gain is reasonable? I don't think so. It's possible but it's not something that is so easily ahievable. Halving might bring the price rise but only on short breath and not so huge. Also, don't forget there is a possibility for price dump too, halving doesn't necessary briing only positive price trends.

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Quote from: ScamViruS on January 19, 2020, 10:11:22 AM

No one knows for sure whether this will happen or not. However if that happens then it will be very difficult. Because when the media propagates everything positively, the market goes towards the negative. Because it is manipulation. In the case of market manipulation, media interference is huge. Media whale spreads news and creates fomo. In my opinion, market manipulation does not make any difference for long holders. If the price increases in 2020 or in 2021, both are good for me.

I stopped reading the media news. I now only look at Bitcoin Hold. I am a long term believer. Great changes do not last long.

A 100% gain is very reasonable in the halving year. It would still leave us below of the ATH, this way we have plenty of time and momentum in 2021 for the insane gains of the next ATH.

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No one knows for sure whether this will happen or not. However if that happens then it will be very difficult. Because when the media propagates everything positively, the market goes towards the negative. Because it is manipulation. In the case of market manipulation, media interference is huge. Media whale spreads news and creates fomo. In my opinion, market manipulation does not make any difference for long holders. If the price increases in 2020 or in 2021, both are good for me.

I stopped reading the media news. I now only look at Bitcoin Hold. I am a long term believer. Great changes do not last long.

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These are two different topics that is being discussed here. Bitcoin "could" become 100% higher in 2020 and bitcoins price doesn't have halving priced in are totally different topics. Normally, I wouldn't disagree with bitcoin going 100%, that is always possible, not just now but in the history of bitcoin at any time now, 5 years ago, 5 years later, we can have a 100% at any time all depending on public opinion of price and if there is a hype or bull run going on.

However, this doesn't justify that halving is not priced in, maybe it is not but we can never know if it is or it is not, which means there is absolutely no way to figure that out.

In order to find out if it was priced in or not we have to see if there will be increase up until halving and even after, if there is one that means it wasn't priced in, if there isn't one that means it was priced in, we will not learn about it until after the fact.

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