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Bitcoin Guy
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 04:27:30 PM
#25
Quote from: BitcoinBarrel on July 25, 2017, 01:23:11 PM
If they accomplish a fork, good for them.... that's great accomplishment and all.

But if Bitcoin was really flawed, and they had the magic solution, then why not create a brand new coin? The reason they don't is because Bitcoin isn't flawed, and they need the Bitcoin brand to make money off their new Alt-coin. That is all. Bitcoin Classic 4 Lyfe.

They have to stop capitalizing Bitcoin.  Using "Bitcoin" in their name creates confusion and fear that could depress the price of Bitcoin.

I am wondering how the price of Bitcoin will be affected?  If so unfortunately that BCC get more miners support than expected, there could be a decent price drop.

If Bitcoin forks on Aug 1st, what will happen to BTC?  Would the price get reduced by the value of the new BCC?  Do the current BTC holders who have their bitcoins in the hard wallets get two types of coins? 

A lot of questions, but only one hope - the hope that the Bitcoin price will go up and not get diluted by any forks. 
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 04:04:45 PM
#24
Quote from: gmaxwell on July 25, 2017, 03:18:21 PM
Anyone can create one of these stupid spinoff coins at any time, but they're not successful for obvious reasons.

Here is the last one of these: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annmain-bitcore-btx-datacarriersize-up-to-220-bytes-1883902
You are the great individual that everyone is targeting right  Cheesy i mean the people who are against the core,i have heard some things about you in some of the speeches i heard in the conferences and i guess you have collected a lot of enemies in the mean time. Grin I think there will be more spin offs by August and lets see who is going to be successful in the end.
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 03:59:29 PM
#23
Quote from: mayax on July 25, 2017, 03:47:50 PM
Quote from: crazyivan on July 25, 2017, 03:10:39 PM
Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 25, 2017, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: MadGamer on July 25, 2017, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: davidmccoy on July 25, 2017, 02:03:03 PM
How many chances of Forking? Any rough idea if we want to know the %? Thanks.

The chances of forking are 100%. You shouldn't give it much attention though, It's going to be dumped in a matter of seconds as every BTC holder will have BCC as well and almost everyone here is with SegWit, no one is going to use that BCC.

I have a feeling that we are over-estimating the support for SegWit. The BCC is supported by some of the big names, and they have the capability to swing at least some of the miners to their side. So I wouldn't confirm on overwhelming support for SegWit, before I see it for real on August 1. So all I am saying is that, don't put so much trust on the "intentions".

One have to really stupid not to see what those big names try to do. To make tons of money on crypto community. They can swing as many miners as they want if the community does not accept the coin.
Again, why would I hold a BTC copycat whose only purpose is to help Roger Ver and a few immensely rich guys to become even richer. No fucking way.

now, you are helping other rich guys too. you have to be blind if you don't see that 2 gangs are fighting for supremacy Smiley  

"the community"(sheep) will follow the miners and exchangers. there are some lunatics who are thinking that they can change the world with their slogans (no gov, no bank, bla bla).

in the end, money/cash talks. Smiley   the smart ones will keep their mouth shut and they will make money with this fork.

all day you can read on this forum " fork is good, fork is not good. that person is a shit, that person is a god" .

are you nuts?  LOL     this is a BUSINESS, it's MONEY. wake up ! Smiley

BTC is just an e-currency; sooner or later it will disappear. speculate as much as you can and talk less because it's useless anyway.



I don't think I m the one who s nuts. It s not about their money. It s about OUR money and the entire crypto community. If this fork would become so successful, guess how long it would take for another genius to attempt the same. Then again, then again.

Now tell me, why would I, as a long time crypto investor and supporter, want something like this? Why would I want to have 17 different variations of BTC? Isn't the whole purpose of blocking technology to provide immutability?

So, yes, I can say those who don't see this and would support BCC are nuts. You re obviously one of them.
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 03:57:14 PM
#22
Quote from: BitcoinBarrel on July 25, 2017, 01:23:11 PM
But if Bitcoin was really flawed, and they had the magic solution, then why not create a brand new coin? The reason they don't is because Bitcoin isn't flawed
This is a fallacious argument.  Bitcoin Cash is a 1:1 fork of Bitcoin because they believe that Bitcoin should have bigger blocks, and therefore they believe that Bitcoin holders should be able to use a Bitcoin fork that has bigger blocks.  Anyone could create a brand new coin with bigger blocks, but they need Bitcoin holders to access their BCC using the same private key.

Quote from: gmaxwell on July 25, 2017, 03:18:21 PM
Anyone can create one of these stupid spinoff coins at any time, but they're not successful for obvious reasons.
True.  All that matters is whether the coin has backing from the economic majority.  But I do think that one of these could be successful, if they had the right objectives - BCC does not.

Quote from: joebrook on July 25, 2017, 03:25:05 PM
It's shocking how people are quick to jump into what people say without doing a little bit of researching themselves,  being that  naive is not a good thing in the business world.
Who are you insulting here?


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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 03:50:08 PM
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Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
Or steal private keys and all bitcoins
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 03:47:50 PM
#20
Quote from: crazyivan on July 25, 2017, 03:10:39 PM
Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 25, 2017, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: MadGamer on July 25, 2017, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: davidmccoy on July 25, 2017, 02:03:03 PM
How many chances of Forking? Any rough idea if we want to know the %? Thanks.

The chances of forking are 100%. You shouldn't give it much attention though, It's going to be dumped in a matter of seconds as every BTC holder will have BCC as well and almost everyone here is with SegWit, no one is going to use that BCC.

I have a feeling that we are over-estimating the support for SegWit. The BCC is supported by some of the big names, and they have the capability to swing at least some of the miners to their side. So I wouldn't confirm on overwhelming support for SegWit, before I see it for real on August 1. So all I am saying is that, don't put so much trust on the "intentions".

One have to really stupid not to see what those big names try to do. To make tons of money on crypto community. They can swing as many miners as they want if the community does not accept the coin.
Again, why would I hold a BTC copycat whose only purpose is to help Roger Ver and a few immensely rich guys to become even richer. No fucking way.

now, you are helping other rich guys too. you have to be blind if you don't see that 2 gangs are fighting for supremacy Smiley  

"the community"(sheep) will follow the miners and exchangers. there are some lunatics who are thinking that they can change the world with their slogans (no gov, no bank, bla bla).

in the end, money/cash talks. Smiley   the smart ones will keep their mouth shut and they will make money with this fork.

all day you can read on this forum " fork is good, fork is not good. that person is a shit, that person is a god" .

are you nuts?  LOL     this is a BUSINESS, it's MONEY. wake up ! Smiley

BTC is just an e-currency; sooner or later it will disappear. speculate as much as you can and talk less because it's useless anyway.

Moneroman88
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 03:37:42 PM
#19
Quote from: Minecache on July 25, 2017, 02:49:46 PM
BCC will be known as the Bitcoin Criminal Coin.

YES INDEED.

This is exactly the way I feel and this is exactly what BCC is. It's a parasite that's trying to feed off BTC.

of course BCC is not 'a' genuine Bitcoin.
williamuk
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 03:35:40 PM
#18
Quote from: BitcoinBarrel on July 25, 2017, 01:23:11 PM
If they accomplish a fork, good for them.... that's great accomplishment and all.

But if Bitcoin was really flawed, and they had the magic solution, then why not create a brand new coin? The reason they don't is because Bitcoin isn't flawed, and they need the Bitcoin brand to make money off their new Alt-coin. That is all. Bitcoin Classic 4 Lyfe.

The most credible explanation I can come up with is that it is a publicity stunt by ViaBTC and no more
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 03:26:26 PM
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well you are not wrong in this regard.

The BCC will become an altcoin that is for sure. How much will it be worth? No one knows.
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 03:25:05 PM
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It's shocking how people are quick to jump into what people say without doing a little bit of researching themselves,  being that  naive is not a good thing in the business world.
gmaxwell
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 03:18:21 PM
#15
Anyone can create one of these stupid spinoff coins at any time, but they're not successful for obvious reasons.

Here is the last one of these: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annmain-bitcore-btx-datacarriersize-up-to-220-bytes-1883902

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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 03:10:39 PM
#14
Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 25, 2017, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: MadGamer on July 25, 2017, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: davidmccoy on July 25, 2017, 02:03:03 PM
How many chances of Forking? Any rough idea if we want to know the %? Thanks.

The chances of forking are 100%. You shouldn't give it much attention though, It's going to be dumped in a matter of seconds as every BTC holder will have BCC as well and almost everyone here is with SegWit, no one is going to use that BCC.

I have a feeling that we are over-estimating the support for SegWit. The BCC is supported by some of the big names, and they have the capability to swing at least some of the miners to their side. So I wouldn't confirm on overwhelming support for SegWit, before I see it for real on August 1. So all I am saying is that, don't put so much trust on the "intentions".

One have to really stupid not to see what those big names try to do. To make tons of money on crypto community. They can swing as many miners as they want if the community does not accept the coin.
Again, why would I hold a BTC copycat whose only purpose is to help Roger Ver and a few immensely rich guys to become even richer. No fucking way.
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 02:55:25 PM
#13
Quote from: MadGamer on July 25, 2017, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: davidmccoy on July 25, 2017, 02:03:03 PM
How many chances of Forking? Any rough idea if we want to know the %? Thanks.

The chances of forking are 100%. You shouldn't give it much attention though, It's going to be dumped in a matter of seconds as every BTC holder will have BCC as well and almost everyone here is with SegWit, no one is going to use that BCC.

I have a feeling that we are over-estimating the support for SegWit. The BCC is supported by some of the big names, and they have the capability to swing at least some of the miners to their side. So I wouldn't confirm on overwhelming support for SegWit, before I see it for real on August 1. So all I am saying is that, don't put so much trust on the "intentions".
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 02:49:46 PM
#12
Quote from: crazyivan on July 25, 2017, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: MadGamer on July 25, 2017, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: davidmccoy on July 25, 2017, 02:03:03 PM
How many chances of Forking? Any rough idea if we want to know the %? Thanks.

The chances of forking are 100%. You shouldn't give it much attention though, It's going to be dumped in a matter of seconds as every BTC holder will have BCC as well and almost everyone here is with SegWit, no one is going to use that BCC.

+1 to this. It s going to be a race who dumps it first. I know I ll have my finger on my BCCshit trigger.

There s no fucking way this can work. If it would, Roger Ver and the gang could remake a new Bitcoin every six months.

There needs to be a clear distinction between BTC and alts. Fuck BCC.

They are trying to do an ETC Criminal Coin. BCC will be known as the Bitcoin Criminal Coin.
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 02:47:25 PM
#11
Quote from: MadGamer on July 25, 2017, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: davidmccoy on July 25, 2017, 02:03:03 PM
How many chances of Forking? Any rough idea if we want to know the %? Thanks.

The chances of forking are 100%. You shouldn't give it much attention though, It's going to be dumped in a matter of seconds as every BTC holder will have BCC as well and almost everyone here is with SegWit, no one is going to use that BCC.

+1 to this. It s going to be a race who dumps it first. I know I ll have my finger on my BCCshit trigger.

There s no fucking way this can work. If it would, Roger Ver and the gang could remake a new Bitcoin every six months.

There needs to be a clear distinction between BTC and alts. Fuck BCC.
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 02:42:01 PM
#10
    BitcoinCash could be seen as a showcase of how big block works. This alt is channeling best efforts for big block fans. It's not just testing community support, it would be a perfect excuse to evade argueably coming 2MB HF due to any BCC failure. Let that sink.
   What makes things worse for bitcoin price for week or so is thin market. There is a wave of withdrowal bitcoin from exchanges. Anyway bitcoin will surge after all.
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 02:34:08 PM
#9
Quote from: Catmony on July 25, 2017, 01:25:56 PM
Yes it is true and they want to make money out of their old mining hardware which can't mine bitcoin so they will just use those old ones to mine there new shit coin and dump it in the market.

I am expecting big dump in price of BCC not bitcoin.

It's excellent to see the community also see the what's goin on with BCC and their bad purposes on bitcoin and blockchain community. They just want to keep using their trash mining equipments. This is the only reason.
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 02:10:57 PM
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Ok, thank you for the expert opinions and the insight.  Smiley
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 02:09:01 PM
#7
Quote from: davidmccoy on July 25, 2017, 02:03:03 PM
How many chances of Forking? Any rough idea if we want to know the %? Thanks.

50-50. Anyone could do a fork even you if you had the expertise to build a client and had some miners support you. But judging by the support that BitcoinCash project has gotten already in the likes of exchanges and miners I bet the chance of happening is close to 100% unless they budge in the last moment but I doubt it.
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Re: Bitcoin Cash (BCC) is an Alt-coin trying to profit off the Bitcoin Brand
July 25, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
#6
You know once one exchange decided to honor a split coin it's going to be a shit show for everybody because everyone is holding bitcoin in different locations and when they get a week coin they will not know what to do. Some people may end up losing money.
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