Topic: Bitcoin conspiracy theories - page 2. (Read 6915 times)

It has long been known that there's a turf war between the NSA and the CIA.

We also know that Satoshi left the Bitcoin project as soon as Gavin revealed he was visiting the CIA. Gavin even stated publically that this very fact probably was the reason Satoshi left. And Gavin's revelation came right after he received the alert keys from Satoshi.

So why did Satoshi seemingly become so angry that he apparently left the Bitcoin project for good? Was it perhaps because Satoshi worked for the NSA all along? And when Gavin revealed he was visiting the NSA's arch enemy, the CIA, Satoshi realized the Bitcoin protocol would be compromised in some way? Or maybe Satoshi just was a true cypherpunk all along. Either way, he didn't seem to like the fact that Gavin visited the CIA.


Edit: For some reason, the forum seems to break that link. So I'll try posting it like this instead: http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/06/13/did-the-cia-give-the-nsa-documents-to-ed-snowden/

This stuff is fun. Overall, a generally useful principle is that bitcoin is too useful to too many interests, not to be used for one strategy or another. Even institutions that are against it will have some members of the institution who are invested in it. Thus bitcoin will have 'double agents'. 

Institutions that are against it will probably use it once in a while for some smaller tactic in their broader strategy, even if to defeat it. That's a big part of why bitcoin is here to stay.

Also, even if the banksters get some states to throw BTC traders in jail, that itself will make it clear to people that their life savings are not safe in the banks. People will risk jail for their life savings, especially if it is more certain that they can end up in the poor house than the jail house. It can be hard to prove people trade BTC if you're careful about it.

Same really. I only occasionally watch a few of his youtube vids when something interests or appeals to me. I wanted to see how he'd react to Kieser, because Jones has said previously he thinks Bitcoins is created by the globalist agenda, but then again he says that about everything  .

I hardly watched it really, I was only interested in it because of Max Kaiser.

Haha, yeah saw that too. I like watching Alex Jones' youtube vids cos I find him entertaining, but obviously he about 95% full of shit.

I actually saw an interview with Alex Jones and Max Kaiser where he accused Max of being Satoshi Nakamoto and making Bitcoin to get back at people for something or other that happened to him back in the day, I lol'd

Probably started by Alex Jones.

I thought the dollar already was doing a good job at that

I find many conspiracy theorist's behaviour odd. I don't believe he believes half the bullshit he peddles, but who knows. Maybe he is actually nuts, but he's running a business at the end of the day, so it's in his interests to keep the paranoid paranoid.

I heard that Max Keiser might actually be Satoshi Nakamoto!

All those people who are jealous from newly popularized currency bitcoin are spreading false conspiracies to destroy bitcoin. But in actual bitcoin is a strong currency which shall not be impacted by the false conspiracies but shall keep on popularizing until it reaches in every person hand in the world.

Mikcik, what you are obviously missing here, is that any encryption is composed of multiple elements.

So for your idea:

SHA256: this hashes the data nothing more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-2#Pseudocode
Enigma machine simplification, the order you put the rotating encryption wheels.

secp256r1 & secp256k1: http://www.secg.org/collateral/sec2_final.pdf page 15 & 16
Uhm this is a hard one to explain, if you know a bit about crypto, you know that the more complex you make the encryption, the harder it to bruteforce it. What these curves are supposed to do, is give a map, where you only have to do one step and it shows you the whole path, but just by moving that step by a millimeter, you see a totally different path. Which results into the fact, that if you generate a very large random number, it will be impossible for anyone to figure out the path you take.
Enigma machine simplification, you have the rotating wheels for encrypting decrypting, see a curve as one of those wheels. (but instead of giving you number 1 to 27, it gives you a whole curve of numbers, almost stretching into infinity.)

ECDSA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic_Curve_DSA
You use this to get a conversion from private to public key.
Enigma machine simplification, this would be the full enigma machine.

Think this is as simple as I can put it.
One part breaks, it can affect the whole thing.
I could be wrong in some of this (I don't believe I am but still) so if I'm wrong please correct me. (with references please)

I locked all the doors and lowered all the lights so that I could reply to this post. I think... WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT NOISE? BRB...

Back! It was nothing. Nothing at all. Like I was saying, while enjoying a nice ice cold glass of Kool Aid...

Well if you want to talk about it... didnt you notice yet? His behavior etc. Just look on his face, he is a liar really NOT a good actor (he should work on it more), but thats just my impression. But other proofs- Just check the video where he debates on youtube with piers morgan (on gunt control issue) and with some british anchor on bilderberg group... Look at him, what impresion does he gave you... a CRAZY MAN, its a TOTAL overreaction... He doesnt behave this way when he is on his own program... He discredits with such behaviour the whole conspiracy "movement", which he says hes a part of... Seriously if you failed to realize that, then you are have been conned.

I started listenign to his youtube channel for a few days and immidiatelly canceled my subscription to his channel , because its obvious he belongs to the "crazy conspiracy" circles, and not by accident, i really belive that hes role is to divert any people who might be interested in conspiracies, when they sence that something isnt right, theyll will start to look into this issue a little but more, THEN they will find alex jones, and what will the be reaction of the stupid majority of them---- "OH MY GOD, its really not true, look at him, hes crazy, all the conspiracies are crazy, i will never pay attention to anything like this anymore", thats his role :-). Seriously you didnt notice yet

And Alex Jones is not a crazy person, he is very inteligent, but a "con man".

Well, no thats just the fool-mans sence, check the reality.

I haven't seen any evidence supporting that he's a CIA asset, but he does seem to be making a decnt living off peddling his paranoia products.

I love it when paranoid conspiracy theorists become paranoid of other paranoid conspiracy theorists.

WTF!? Someone is stupid here... as far as i get it (granted, english is not my native language),  the random number generator (the  Dual Elliptic Curve Deterministic Random Bit Generators ) is somehow tigtly connected to SHA256 (one of its versions), so if the " Dual Elliptic Curve Deterministic Random Bit Generator" is compromised, the (one version) of sha256 is compromised, do i get it right?

That is about the random number generator, not SHA256, so consistant with the point I made.

OH... REALLY :-)...

http://www.vdschagt.com/bitcoin-surprisingly-dodges-cryptographic-bullet/

Even thought its not connected to bitcoin directly, (it doesnr affect him), its nice to see that all your crypto encryption fate isnt that strong (or rather correct)...

EDIT: Alex Jones is probably a CIA asset or in other words "fake" (and also has a nice business ripping people of), if you didnt realize it yet, you are doomed.