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Topic: Bitcoin, Dark Web, Drugs and Government. (Read 1185 times)

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January 31, 2020, 11:08:58 AM
The problem of drug traffic and huge role that Bitcoin plays in it can be solved by legalization (as well as dozens of other problems). People of power doesn't wanna change that but they blame Bitcoin for being part of the problem. This is appaling and must be stopped, I hope big pharma and alcohol/tobacco indstries will finally give in, this'll 100% lead to a healthier society.
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January 31, 2020, 10:57:24 AM
Dark web and also the deep web is a different world and it is so hard to have an access on it and because of this the drug transactions are being made here in order to transact country over country without noticing by the government and this is the most dangerous part here. If a large of people are having a transactions like this in the deep world of internet then it is really hard for the government especially with the police to point out how they are transacting it and who are those person who are involved here.
Let's be honest that in the internet world it is really hard to find out those criminals especially drug syndicates and people who are making bad things because the internet world has a lot of holes to get out.
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January 31, 2020, 08:25:19 AM
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I'm not with the these drug syndicates but TBH, they are already late when it comes to the new technology.

In some countries, there are many syndicates that are already using cryptocurrency to buy anything from drugs to guns to gruesome videos etc.
Now I'm thinking, these drug syndicates will push the government to know anything about cryptocurrencies since our government isn't involved in anything related to crypto. Philippine government will be aware that these kind of things are existing and it is because of these syndicates. The problem is that they can't stop them from transacting to other people to buy but they can stop them from spreading the drugs to the pushers.

I'm not against the war on drugs by our President and I see that the government right now is giving more time to drugs compare to our previous administration however, it is not enough to stop all of these. Drugs are already spread across the country and to stop it, I don't see any solution to it. It is like a virus that has already spread nationwide and there is no cure for it.
These are maybe correlated with each other, I can say that because there are drugs selling at dark web right? but how are they gonna acquire that? What is their payment method? Bitcoin of course. They can use bitcoin as a payment method when buying drugs on the dark web. We all know that there are lots of illegal that are happening at the dark web not only drugs. But why is the government belong to these terms? Maybe because the first thing comes on their mind is that bitcoin is also illegal they do not know what bitcoin is really about. That is maybe because of these dark web and drugs relation. The government are banning bitcoin maybe because of that, they are thinking that it can only use through illegal transactions.
legendary
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January 31, 2020, 06:18:01 AM
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I'm not with the these drug syndicates but TBH, they are already late when it comes to the new technology.

In some countries, there are many syndicates that are already using cryptocurrency to buy anything from drugs to guns to gruesome videos etc.
Now I'm thinking, these drug syndicates will push the government to know anything about cryptocurrencies since our government isn't involved in anything related to crypto. Philippine government will be aware that these kind of things are existing and it is because of these syndicates. The problem is that they can't stop them from transacting to other people to buy but they can stop them from spreading the drugs to the pushers.

I'm not against the war on drugs by our President and I see that the government right now is giving more time to drugs compare to our previous administration however, it is not enough to stop all of these. Drugs are already spread across the country and to stop it, I don't see any solution to it. It is like a virus that has already spread nationwide and there is no cure for it.
sr. member
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December 19, 2019, 01:43:30 PM
Philippines is already a troubled place with all the fights between drug lords, terrorists and government people, there is no doubt that lots of these negative people are using crypto to launder there money in. Governments may try regulate with serious measures in order to stop the activities. Its a serious concern which should be discussed in order to grow as a community.

In addition, online learning for the sake of regulation will not be enough at these days. We need seminars to educate the people and activities for them to be knowledgeable on how to use bitcoin and cryptocurrency properly. Because actually with the current status of Bitcoin, it is very hard to make people use it in legal ways especially if they are doing illegal acts already. And we all know, how important it is to make cryptocurrency spending wise is because even a single illegal use of it might lose the trust of many people, those that are just starting to adopt to cryptocurrency.

We should not blame cryptocurrencies for their illegal way at all. Everything can be used legally as well as illegally. We need to teach people to use things for human benefits.
For the illegal usage of BTC in Drug, BTC is just a mode of transaction. And if it possible to restrict BTC for those things, the illegal users will move onto a new mode of transaction. So it will be better if the Gov look to stop the addiction of drug rather than imposing restrictions on the medium of transactions.
sr. member
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December 19, 2019, 01:21:01 PM
Philippines is already a troubled place with all the fights between drug lords, terrorists and government people, there is no doubt that lots of these negative people are using crypto to launder there money in. Governments may try regulate with serious measures in order to stop the activities. Its a serious concern which should be discussed in order to grow as a community.

In addition, online learning for the sake of regulation will not be enough at these days. We need seminars to educate the people and activities for them to be knowledgeable on how to use bitcoin and cryptocurrency properly. Because actually with the current status of Bitcoin, it is very hard to make people use it in legal ways especially if they are doing illegal acts already. And we all know, how important it is to make cryptocurrency spending wise is because even a single illegal use of it might lose the trust of many people, those that are just starting to adopt to cryptocurrency.
hero member
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December 19, 2019, 12:48:36 PM
None of this would even be a problem if they just legalized drugs. -_- lol and a "war on drugs" that is the bs USA started after ww2 when they were the ones testing drugs on their own soldiers.... -_-
You can't get peace through war. "the war on drugs" is a pathetic saying anyway. It sounds retarded. Now they want to blame crypto for "enabling" people to buy drugs.
Like seriously??? Happy people don't go waiting in the middle of the night for a drug dealer, do they? So I guess the problem is that the person is unhappy and not the drugs. Blaming drugs means you too weak to take responsibility of your own actions. A drug will sit on the table it cannot harm you. You have to make the decision to take it.

Rather than waging a never-ending war and a war that they can never ever win they prefer to punish people for their drug use. How about you fix your society so people are not so unhappy?
I very much doubt bitcoin is used to buy drugs its just bs and FUD.
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December 19, 2019, 12:15:55 PM
Philippines war on drugs entered a new phase as drug Syndicates are now using bitcoin to transact and avoid detection from the government. PDEA(Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency) recently found out that most organized Drug syndicate are using the dark web to transact to each other. It's clear that some countries are slower at adopting new technologies and these drug syndicate took the opportunity to make their transactions much easier without being detected by the government. here is the link for more details: https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/06/11/1925535/pdea-drug-syndicates-use-dark-web-bitcoin




It is not surprising since bitcoin was already use by terrorist in a lot of illegal transaction in all over the world surely they are going to recognized this kind of technology overtime and try to use it also in a illegal transactions the bitcoin technology was surely a great option for them so that they could easily make transaction and hide their identity at the same time.
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December 19, 2019, 12:10:54 PM
Philippines is already a troubled place with all the fights between drug lords, terrorists and government people, there is no doubt that lots of these negative people are using crypto to launder there money in. Governments may try regulate with serious measures in order to stop the activities. Its a serious concern which should be discussed in order to grow as a community.
hero member
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December 19, 2019, 11:47:08 AM
Lots of people on the dark web are now making use of Bitcoin as a way to be out of sight from the government. That has been a major point for most people when they want to speak against Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, but there's really nothing we can do about this issue. Some people, when they are given freedom tends to misuse it, and that's what they are doing with Bitcoin.

Bitcoin has given people freedom to do whatever they want and stay anonymous ( not 100%), so some bad eggs in the society are now trying to misuse that opportunity they have been given. This does not mean that bitcoin is the core reason because these types of illegal things are here for decades to century. Some governments has realized this fact whereas most governments are still studying bitcoins in this aspect.
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December 19, 2019, 10:08:47 AM
Philippines war on drugs entered a new phase as drug Syndicates are now using bitcoin to transact and avoid detection from the government. PDEA(Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency) recently found out that most organized Drug syndicate are using the dark web to transact to each other. It's clear that some countries are slower at adopting new technologies and these drug syndicate took the opportunity to make their transactions much easier without being detected by the government. here is the link for more details: https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/06/11/1925535/pdea-drug-syndicates-use-dark-web-bitcoin




No doubt that Philippine drug syndicates are using bitcoin to sell and buy drugs in the dark web to avoid detection from the government because Philippine government is still not yet fully aware about cryptocurrency and bitcoin, that is why drug syndicates is taking all the advantage and freedom for them to sell and buy drugs in the dark web.
sr. member
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December 19, 2019, 09:58:31 AM
this is the reason why bitcoin can't be accepted in many countries, one of which is that many countries are not ready to adopt the latest technology (blockchain) because they don't have developers in the blockchain field. when decentralization goes, freedom is a right. so someone can do anything about their assets in crypto. including drug transactions without being tracked. there are good and bad things about Bitcoin. the good thing is that bitcoin makes it easy for all distant transactions in a short amount of time. the bad is that bitcoin can be used for anything (including illegal transactions without being tracked)

That's why we do understand them, because if we they will let this to happen meaning that they are also allowing dard web, criminals to do illegal things in their country, so they really need to make sure that at least they are doing their job to protect the country or else, if Bitcoin will be widely used in a certain country it will be their obligation at all.
legendary
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December 19, 2019, 07:59:06 AM
this is the reason why bitcoin can't be accepted in many countries, one of which is that many countries are not ready to adopt the latest technology (blockchain) because they don't have developers in the blockchain field. when decentralization goes, freedom is a right. so someone can do anything about their assets in crypto. including drug transactions without being tracked. there are good and bad things about Bitcoin. the good thing is that bitcoin makes it easy for all distant transactions in a short amount of time. the bad is that bitcoin can be used for anything (including illegal transactions without being tracked)
full member
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December 19, 2019, 03:22:51 AM
Philippines war on drugs entered a new phase as drug Syndicates are now using bitcoin to transact and avoid detection from the government. PDEA(Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency) recently found out that most organized Drug syndicate are using the dark web to transact to each other. It's clear that some countries are slower at adopting new technologies and these drug syndicate took the opportunity to make their transactions much easier without being detected by the government. here is the link for more details: https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/06/11/1925535/pdea-drug-syndicates-use-dark-web-bitcoin
For what purpose else is BTC has created?

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sr. member
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December 19, 2019, 12:04:43 AM
Philippines war on drugs entered a new phase as drug Syndicates are now using bitcoin to transact and avoid detection from the government. PDEA(Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency) recently found out that most organized Drug syndicate are using the dark web to transact to each other. It's clear that some countries are slower at adopting new technologies and these drug syndicate took the opportunity to make their transactions much easier without being detected by the government. here is the link for more details: https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/06/11/1925535/pdea-drug-syndicates-use-dark-web-bitcoin



Sometimes its very sad to see the government always relating cryptocurrency or Bitcoin to the dark web, drugs and other criminal activities seen in the world but they forget that the decentralized nature of the cryptocurrency platform makes it easy to trace every transactions made on the blockchain network. Instead of them joining the crypto space and deploying developers into creating systems that can be used to track down these activities, they just spend their time developing useless policies that will not help prevent these activities........
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December 18, 2019, 02:55:51 PM
Well bitcoin is just what gives these kind of people the opportunity to do such acts. But they would have most likely found a different way if bitcoin was not an option. But it will just be labeled as bitcoin being the scapegoat in the situation.
sr. member
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December 18, 2019, 02:54:24 PM
It's not something new dude. People have been using bitcoin all over the dark net since a long time now.
There is no stopping to it till date which is why bitcoin is still being used on the dark web despite new cryptocurrencies getting emerged.
So using a particular thing for a good purpose or a bad purpose completely depends from person to person.
It depends from the intentions of the users, since bitcoin was been accepted as a currency even those illegal practitioners will take the advantages to use this system. It's not new anymore everyone is free to use this currency whether they use it illegally or use it in the right manner it will only depending with the holders and hope they will practice the freedom that they have from this industry.
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December 18, 2019, 11:20:46 AM
It's not something new dude. People have been using bitcoin all over the dark net since a long time now.
There is no stopping to it till date which is why bitcoin is still being used on the dark web despite new cryptocurrencies getting emerged.
So using a particular thing for a good purpose or a bad purpose completely depends from person to person.
sr. member
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December 18, 2019, 10:37:23 AM
To be honest this is not surprising anymore. The same case was reported from other countries as well. The only difference is that it's from a different location, who honestly has one of the worst online security. In fact, my first introduction to Bitcoin was something like this, you can use it in illegal websites like dark web and such. But then I quickly realized that it doesn't have much difference from fiat money, it's a medium that you can use to exchange for almost anything.

Terrorists and syndicates have always been smart to do such things, they have to after all. It's a waste that they use such minds to perform such schemes. But then again, a quote took me aback, it says "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain".
legendary
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December 18, 2019, 10:06:20 AM
darkweb is the one that we blame here not btc because btc is only a currency and a currency can be used anywhere but a website like darkweb is only specific for listing strange things and illegal things as well  .
I don't think we should blame dark web markets either. While I definitely don't agree with some of what's being sold or offered there, it shows that the people on these markets enjoy the benefits of what Bitcoin has to offer.

If these people using these markets can enjoy what Bitcoin has to offer, we as regular users can do so too. As long as that is the case, I don't see much wrong with how other people are using Bitcoin. Things are as they are whether we like it or not.
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