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Topic: Bitcoin, Dark Web, Drugs and Government. - page 6. (Read 1193 times)

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Philippines war on drugs entered a new phase as drug Syndicates are now using bitcoin to transact and avoid detection from the government. PDEA(Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency) recently found out that most organized Drug syndicate are using the dark web to transact to each other. It's clear that some countries are slower at adopting new technologies and these drug syndicate took the opportunity to make their transactions much easier without being detected by the government. here is the link for more details: https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/06/11/1925535/pdea-drug-syndicates-use-dark-web-bitcoin

This is just a myth. If the government is so concerned and surprised by criminals using BTC, they haven't cough up with the technologies. Every crypto transaction end up exchanged to fiat sooner or later. Also nowadays there already are technologies  which easily track crypto transactions and can evaluate the where it started and where the transaction ended up, it includes dark web addresses.
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I read an article in which it was written that monero is very successfully used for drug trafficking and in dark net. In any case, the facts cited in the article seemed to me rather convincing. Drug barons found a rather convenient way to avoid unnecessary attention and protect their money from the police and tax authorities. The Philippines is not the only country in which drug trafficking problems are acute, but we must pay tribute, the country's leadership has been struggling hard against drug trafficking in the past 5 years.
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If you remember at the very begininig Bitcoin was almost always connected to illegal activities. Some people tend to do that even today, Bitcoin is for many still something unknown and shady. At the begininig Bitcoin was much more anonimous and transactions were much harder to trace so in a way it was logical that Bitcoin was used by criminals.
It's true that Bitcoin is also being used for illegal stuff, especially online but this is just one tiny side of it and fiat money is misused too. It's a complex situation and should be considered as such. Governments should find the way how to regulate Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to divide legal from illegal, that would be easier for all.
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This is not only in the Philippines because for sure it is also an issue on the other country maybe the government does not paying attention to it because it is really hard to track it. That would be the issue that the crypto must solve in the future.
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Indeed, many use bitcoin as a transaction in illegal purchases such as buying illegal weapons and illegal drugs. they use bitcoin because it is hard to track because the transaction is anonymous. so it's not only in the Philippines that uses it, even in the whole world it uses it
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I've heard this before and I believe that many countries some of the syndicate are in to using Dark Web, many people automatically associate bitcoin with the Dark Web, due to they may be more efficient to use or more stable than government backed currencies. They know to to make the transactions faster and easier without noticing by the police or other government institutions. The government maybe blind to this actions but sooner they will know how to capture this syndicate.
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Drugs are often an excuse to make many other things illegal. They kill a lot to "save" people from this terrible menace.

They also mentioned that they were winning the drug war. This is false. The prohibition of drugs has only brought more money, guns and political power to the cartels.

The American government, the most powerful government in the world is already 5 decades into the drug war, however, nothing has changed. The amount of drug users has only grown in their country.
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there are two things you need to fix:

First Is the title: "  Bitcoin, Dark Web, Drugs and Government. "

it seems that bitcoin is being widely used by drug traffickers, when according to the article it is not any of that

second thing is this:

Philippines war on drugs entered a new phase as drug Syndicates are now using bitcoin to transact and avoid detection from the government.

this is the only passage that talks about bitcoin:
He also revealed that one of the local drug personalities known to have extensively used dark web and bitcoin was John Steven Pasion, who died in March in an encounter with PDEA agents at the parking lot of Amaia Skies Condominium in Sta. Cruz in Manila.

are not saying that bitcoin has become the favorite mean used by drug traffickers ... the authorities were talking about that criminal, and in describing the criminal, the authorities mentioned about bitcoin, dark web and how he died

these kinds of articles that draw conclusions from things that authorities speak and post many biased titles are articles that bring nothing good to society.

Look at this:

Aquino said drug traders had already abandoned transacting with buyers through Facebook

But in the title does not mention anything about facebook, why?

it does sounds like that but the title is universal and not just for a specified government although the article is.

also if you read again "one of the local drug personalities" as we all know drug syndicates share/find information if it can make their transaction faster and safer for them and there are a lot of drug syndicates in the Philippines. who's to say that he is the only one who has knowledge in the dark web and bitcoin.

as you can see "abandoned" and I didn't see the need to include it since bitcoin is what I am interested at. also they abandoned Facebook transaction because PDEA agents have been known to use it to trap drug dealers. although there are still who use it to deal drugs but not as many like before.

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Drug traffickers will always find a way on how they can transact from one client to another and with bitcoin's increasing popularity it is not impossible for them to also study what they can do using bitcoin's technology and in this case they use it in processing payment since they can do it anonymously. However, the technology is still new and a lot needs to be improved, hopefully in the future they will be able to improved it better and minimize these types of wrong doings.
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Bitcoin usage into dark web, particularly in drugs were very high. At the same time this isn't the major transaction medium for drug, hawala funds gets transacted for the drug exchange in large scale. Governments major indications to restrict usage of bitcoin were the usage on darkweb and illegal transactions.

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there are two things you need to fix:

First Is the title: "  Bitcoin, Dark Web, Drugs and Government. "

it seems that bitcoin is being widely used by drug traffickers, when according to the article it is not any of that

second thing is this:

Philippines war on drugs entered a new phase as drug Syndicates are now using bitcoin to transact and avoid detection from the government.

this is the only passage that talks about bitcoin:
He also revealed that one of the local drug personalities known to have extensively used dark web and bitcoin was John Steven Pasion, who died in March in an encounter with PDEA agents at the parking lot of Amaia Skies Condominium in Sta. Cruz in Manila.

are not saying that bitcoin has become the favorite mean used by drug traffickers ... the authorities were talking about that criminal, and in describing the criminal, the authorities mentioned about bitcoin, dark web and how he died

these kinds of articles that draw conclusions from things that authorities speak and post many biased titles are articles that bring nothing good to society.

Look at this:

Aquino said drug traders had already abandoned transacting with buyers through Facebook

But in the title does not mention anything about facebook, why?
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It would be a sad day if instead of going against the crux of the problem, the government will instead zero in on its focus with bitcoin or any cryptocurrency for that matter. We are wishing that level-headed minds will prevail. When drug syndicates and dealers are using the fiat money, nobody in his own right mind will think to do something about the money -- the same treatment should also be accorded to bitcoin. What should be done then? The same solutions, of course, but this time implemented more strictly and much tighter than before. Strict monitoring and strong KYC requirements must be done by platforms into bitcoin business. And the Philippines has already many laws that can counter these problems, it is just a matter of no let-up implementation.

should we see the PDEA soon will be checking personalities in coins.ph with transactions very suspicious? i can already assume they are already doing it.

bwck when i was 16 i did terrible mistakes, i was caught with a bag of marijuana. if they find my name in the coins.ph database. i'd be someone they'd try to watch out.same for those other guys out there.
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Philippines war on drugs entered a new phase as drug Syndicates are now using bitcoin to transact and avoid detection from the government. PDEA(Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency) recently found out that most organized Drug syndicate are using the dark web to transact to each other. It's clear that some countries are slower at adopting new technologies and these drug syndicate took the opportunity to make their transactions much easier without being detected by the government. here is the link for more details: https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/06/11/1925535/pdea-drug-syndicates-use-dark-web-bitcoin




Something like this had happened before this, only that the government was rather constrained to trace this syndicate. OK, on ​​the other hand or news like that makes the negative side of bitcoin more feared by the public and I'm sure people who don't really understand about cryptocurrency will be afraid, even though the wrong one is the user himself not a tool . bitcoin still has big obstacles to become a legal currency, maybe with developments in the future it will make it easier for blockchain technology to be a better use.
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It would be a sad day if instead of going against the crux of the problem, the government will instead zero in on its focus with bitcoin or any cryptocurrency for that matter. We are wishing that level-headed minds will prevail. When drug syndicates and dealers are using the fiat money, nobody in his own right mind will think to do something about the money -- the same treatment should also be accorded to bitcoin. What should be done then? The same solutions, of course, but this time implemented more strictly and much tighter than before. Strict monitoring and strong KYC requirements must be done by platforms into bitcoin business. And the Philippines has already many laws that can counter these problems, it is just a matter of no let-up implementation.
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Bitcoin, big ponzi, Dark Web, Drugs and Government.

The owner of bitconnect.com got arrested in India for $14 billion ponzi scheme using Bitcoins.
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There’s much privacy orientated cryptos to serve this purpose, but they decided to go against it. May be trust is a big deal, they rather trust using bitcoin as a payment than other new more centralized privacy coins.
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i hope this will not trigger the president to make some regulations like banning btc. i'm from philippines, i'm not sure if those people in the media even understood how crypto works and if they make this more of an issue against the president's drug war, it could trigger the things we filipino btc users fear most. the media in the philippines is the most ignorant of all in the entire world. you can never trust them as they are involve in corruption.
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i am always having a hard time believing that there still are people who use "bitcoin" for their large scale illegal activities in 2019! in early years it could have made sense since people didn't know bitcoin isn't anonymous and the "myth" was still around but we already know that and it is clear. on top of that we now have lots of cryptocurrencies that were created focusing on being fully anonymous for these people to use for their criminal activities, for example Monero. so it is not like the option isn't there!
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This was very long overdue and the government of the Philippines only acts now  Cry but at least they are trying to resolve it and starting to invest with their 30 people to train with the South Korean government, I'm looking forward to a much knowledgeable government people in the future that can resolve syndicated groups operating in the deepweb using cryptocurrency.

If criminals can think of a much smarter way to do their bad deeds then the authority must think twice as much, it's hard to be an anti-drug force in the Philippines because even you do a good job the naysayers still say something about them so I salute them for not giving up no matter the cost.
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