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legendary
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October 03, 2020, 07:07:04 PM
bitcoin for blind people may be a bit difficult to realize because in my opinion if using voice is likely to reduce the level of security
using a brailer is also not possible
I think bitcoin is not suitable for blind people at the moment, there are too many factors to consider when developing related to this

It'll be challenging (but not impossible) to make Bitcoin wallets accessible to blind people. The main issue would be preserving security when using text-to-speech features on the wallet. Imagine hackers being able to intercept the audio allowing them to obtain the private key or mnemonic/seed of a blind person's Bitcoin wallet. It'll greatly compromise the security of a person's funds. I think that developers will somehow find a way to mitigate this issue. As I've said before, everything will depend on demand more than anything else. If most Bitcoin users aren't blind, then there would be no reason for developers to integrate accessibility features on wallet software. So far, I haven't heard of a blind person that's interested in Bitcoin. If no one with disabilities is interested in Bitcoin, then everything will remain the same way as it is right now.

All in all, there's more to Bitcoin "than meets the eye". Developers would need to solve other issues first, before thinking of making Bitcoin accessible to all. Once privacy and scalability issues are solved, then we might be able to see wallets adopting accessibility features in the future. Until that happens, blind people will need to delegate someone to manage their Bitcoin in order to participate in the decentralized economy. Just my opinion Smiley
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September 30, 2020, 11:02:44 AM
I've been into Bitcoin for quite a few years, and I'm impressed to see how far it has reached in the mainstream world. It's the most widely-adopted cryptocurrency for decentralized payments worldwide without the need for a middleman. In its current state, Bitcoin works wonders for ordinary people like you and me. It's only a matter of putting the right BTC address and the number of coins to send to get started using the Bitcoin blockchain.

However, my concern is how blind people are able to get used to Bitcoin? To my knowledge, wallets (either with a GUI or CLI) don't have "text-to-speech" features to make blind people's lives easier. It'd be great if developers keep blind people in mind to help increase the adoption of the pioneer cryptocurrency in the mainstream world. The only thing I've found is an audiobook of the Bitcoin whitepaper which is a great solution to introduce blind people into the "mechanics" of Bitcoin.

Any thoughts? Huh

That's actually a great topic since it is known that more people are actually creating stuffs for Blind people to get a more user-friendly environment when using technology. Maybe some people can coordinate on how we can introduce cryptocurrency to people with disabilities and how it can help them? in some way. Its also cool to see people using that keyboard for blind people since some of them are really good at it.
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September 30, 2020, 09:13:04 AM
I think it be a decent thought for computerized wallets to make a sound for each consumption. Bitcoin has numerous different issues, it may not sound awesome, yet more significant issues. Yet, I am certain that later on the designers will consider it without a doubt. The gadget will be formed like a versatile, so a speaker, a little presentation, and a catch, if the catch is marginally bigger, it is smarter to press the visually impaired man's hand. I have clarified him with respect to bitcoin. He know there is a virtual coin which is called bitcoin. In any case, tragically he can't utilize it. I don't if there will be something new in not so distant future to utilize bitcoin for daze individuals. Like each monetary organization they may require first associate with outsider before the privately in later. It is significant the cash is accessible for everyone for utilize and exchange independent of their physical failures. There will consistently be an approach to enable our visually impaired companions to get to bitcoin. I saw an application named "Be my eyes" that help these sort of individuals in their regular day to day existence and I figure it can likewise be utilized while getting to bitcoin however it requires a great deal of trust.
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September 30, 2020, 06:51:38 AM
For now, bitcoin accessibility for visually impaired people is far more difficult than how normal people can access it but, as the technology continues to grow, it is now possible that some wallets or sites can have that speech-to-text feature. Developers can create a read out loud feature for the disabled people. There will always be a way to help our blind friends access bitcoin. I saw an app named "Be my eyes" that help these kind of people in their everyday life and I think it can also be used when accessing bitcoin though it requires a lot of trust.
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September 29, 2020, 11:10:51 AM
bitcoin for blind people may be a bit difficult to realize because in my opinion if using voice is likely to reduce the level of security
using a brailer is also not possible
I think bitcoin is not suitable for blind people at the moment, there are too many factors to consider when developing related to this
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September 26, 2020, 02:37:23 PM
I've been into Bitcoin for quite a few years, and I'm impressed to see how far it has reached in the mainstream world. It's the most widely-adopted cryptocurrency for decentralized payments worldwide without the need for a middleman. In its current state, Bitcoin works wonders for ordinary people like you and me. It's only a matter of putting the right BTC address and the number of coins to send to get started using the Bitcoin blockchain.

However, my concern is how blind people are able to get used to Bitcoin? To my knowledge, wallets (either with a GUI or CLI) don't have "text-to-speech" features to make blind people's lives easier. It'd be great if developers keep blind people in mind to help increase the adoption of the pioneer cryptocurrency in the mainstream world. The only thing I've found is an audiobook of the Bitcoin whitepaper which is a great solution to introduce blind people into the "mechanics" of Bitcoin.

Any thoughts? Huh
I think that bitcoin has not yet reached such popularity and mass use to think about blind people. Bitcoin has many other problems, it may not sound very good, but more important problems. But I am sure that in the future the developers will think about it for sure.
legendary
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September 26, 2020, 01:58:18 PM
There is an app where you ask strangers for help and they guide you on what to do, I forgot the name of the app and it is pretty helpful for the blind community. The app utilizes the camera feature of the phone to help, one example is a blind person checking whether the milk is expired, they can use the voice command for the app and strangers will accept the tasks and become their eyes for awhile.

The current dilemma on how to make bitcoin accessible to blind people does not have a simple solution, blind people utilize their other senses like feel or touch while bitcoin is electronic which means there will be limitations like TTS which can sometimes be faulty. Braille system is the best solution that is not fully utilized when it comes to bitcoin project development.

Braille will work best in helping blind people get access to Bitcoin. Right now, we have all of the required tools to make Bitcoin accessible to everyone worldwide. The problem lies on developers themselves, as they haven't put people with disabilities in mind. Without a proper system for blind people to get access to Bitcoin, they'll be left out of the game. No one seems to care since blind people are the minority. They might as well delegate someone to manage their Bitcoin balances than doing so themselves. It's a workaround, but not a remedy to the current situation.

Time will tell us what lies ahead of Bitcoin's adoption in the mainstream world. I'm hoping that everyone's voice gets heard, making Bitcoin a better cryptocurrency for all. If it becomes extremely popular, developers will most likely include blind people into the ecosystem. Just my opinion Smiley
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September 24, 2020, 02:23:36 AM
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Maybe blind people will be having hard time while setting up their wallet and it is nearly impossible for now but in terms of spending we can still make it possible with QR code scanners or crypto debit cards but until now not much place to spend our cryptos so I believe there will be some technology to assists the blind people to live normal life as everyone.
It will be harder but it can,i believe that experts are going into this now though they cannot focus because the demand of crypto for Disable is not that [popular now.
In future when there are many of blinds and other disable person demand for this then why not?
for now let us just use this thread as sharing of ideas and opinion about How.why,what and when Blind has to be in crypto also.
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September 24, 2020, 01:36:44 AM
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However, my concern is how blind people are able to get used to Bitcoin? To my knowledge, wallets (either with a GUI or CLI) don't have "text-to-speech" features to make blind people's lives easier. It'd be great if developers keep blind people in mind to help increase the adoption of the pioneer cryptocurrency in the mainstream world. The only thing I've found is an audiobook of the Bitcoin whitepaper which is a great solution to introduce blind people into the "mechanics" of Bitcoin.

Any thoughts? Huh
You've raised a good concern there, op. It would be pretty challenging for the developers though. But we're now in the modern era so there will surely be someone who can think of a solution to that concern. Braille system can be used for them. I've read an article[1] that btc's white paper is written in Braille for blind people. The same article includes an interview of a blind bitcoin user who said that he doesn't believe that "developers think about disabled bitcoin users." Maybe it's time for that to change and consider our visually impaired fellas in the development of bitcoin."

[1]https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-accessibility-from-a-blind-persons-perspective/
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September 23, 2020, 11:27:46 PM
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Maybe blind people will be having hard time while setting up their wallet and it is nearly impossible for now but in terms of spending we can still make it possible with QR code scanners or crypto debit cards but until now not much place to spend our cryptos so I believe there will be some technology to assists the blind people to live normal life as everyone.
There is an app where you ask strangers for help and they guide you on what to do, I forgot the name of the app and it is pretty helpful for the blind community. The app utilizes the camera feature of the phone to help, one example is a blind person checking whether the milk is expired, they can use the voice command for the app and strangers will accept the tasks and become their eyes for awhile.

The current dilemma on how to make bitcoin accessible to blind people does not have a simple solution, blind people utilize their other senses like feel or touch while bitcoin is electronic which means there will be limitations like TTS which can sometimes be faulty. Braille system is the best solution that is not fully utilized when it comes to bitcoin project development.
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September 23, 2020, 11:09:20 PM
#96
This is very difficult to discuss because people with low vision must wear glasses especially those who cannot see, of course there is no need to talk about it anymore, blind people are very difficult and in my opinion there is no more discussion to discuss, blind people must have other people as helpers explaining the meaning of bitcoin is not easy. Even normal people with good eyesight find it difficult to understand Bitcoin. That's not condescending, not my point, but the truth is it's very difficult to understand bitcoin.
legendary
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September 23, 2020, 06:51:18 PM
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This is a good idea if developers will make a way for blind people to at least use bitcoin. But we all know that this seems impossible because we are using a device where our eyes are really one of the primary needs to see and understand this technology. It is not something that is written on a piece of paper and transform it to tactile writing for them to be able to read or know what was written.

As far as I know, adapting current wallet software for blind people will be quite a challenging task. Since people with such a disability are the minority, developers don't care more or less in adding accessibility features to Bitcoin. It's a shame since it reduces Bitcoin's level of adoption in the mainstream world. Only people that are able to see can use Bitcoin for day-to-day transactions. If someone blind is still interested in Bitcoin, he/she would need to put someone in-charge of his/her funds. This brings back the middleman (trust), but it's the only way blind people will be able to access Bitcoin.

At least, there's a version of the Bitcoin whitepaper written in Braille. Blind people can know what Bitcoin is all about, but they cannot use it directly for their own benefit. If Bitcoin's popularity continues to increase, it's hoped that developers take into consideration people with disabilities in order to make the pioneer cryptocurrency more decentralized than ever. Everything will depend on people themselves. If people don't pressure developers to build a tool that would facilitate Bitcoin transactions among blind people, everything will remain the same. The community's voice needs to be heard in order to make Bitcoin the best cryptocurrency in the world. Just my thoughts Grin
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September 23, 2020, 04:50:44 PM
#94
I think this idea is very good for blind people to know the development of cryptocurrency in the future and introduce it, but I'm not sure all blind people will understand how to use cryptocurrency by explaining it, because it is very difficult for blind people to understand how cryptocurrency works for them and I'm afraid they don't be able to properly store their security keys in the future.

The fact they are blind doesn't affect their ability to understand Bitcoin. They are maybe blind but not stupid. They can read and learn about it as well as of any other things. Also, today there are laws and recommendations in many countries for web sites to be adapted for blind and other disabled or people with other difficulties so I don't see obstacles for blind people also to use Bitcoin.

You are right! They do able to hear and it would really be just simple for them to learn via audio and understand on whats bitcoin is all about.
When reading then they can always make use of those traditional tactile writing system if there would be one which wouldnt be hard.
It doesnt really matter if you are visually impared or other disabilities it cant really stop people to learn or do know about bitcoin.

Those who are disabled or blind have their own way of learning things. We cannot understand or imagine how they will understand bitcoin and other new technology but they will still be able to not only learn about bitcoins but also use it in their daily life.
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September 23, 2020, 03:21:17 PM
#93
I've been into Bitcoin for quite a few years, and I'm impressed to see how far it has reached in the mainstream world. It's the most widely-adopted cryptocurrency for decentralized payments worldwide without the need for a middleman. In its current state, Bitcoin works wonders for ordinary people like you and me. It's only a matter of putting the right BTC address and the number of coins to send to get started using the Bitcoin blockchain.

However, my concern is how blind people are able to get used to Bitcoin? To my knowledge, wallets (either with a GUI or CLI) don't have "text-to-speech" features to make blind people's lives easier. It'd be great if developers keep blind people in mind to help increase the adoption of the pioneer cryptocurrency in the mainstream world. The only thing I've found is an audiobook of the Bitcoin whitepaper which is a great solution to introduce blind people into the "mechanics" of Bitcoin.



At all which of the blind are we emphasizing on,is to be myopic in terms of bitcoin or cryptoccurrency or typically blind. Because its obvious that a blind human can't partake in bitcoin transaction except it has money and people is managing its wealths into bitcoin,creating a special pioneers that will enable blind to understand the concept of bitcoint is very difficult.
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September 23, 2020, 02:52:05 PM
#92
Maybe blind people will be having hard time while setting up their wallet and it is nearly impossible for now but in terms of spending we can still make it possible with QR code scanners or crypto debit cards but until now not much place to spend our cryptos so I believe there will be some technology to assists the blind people to live normal life as everyone.
In the nearest future developers should be able to transform the braile machine used by the blind for tracing and reading of documents into an app which might possibly enable them to set-up a wallet, and do other crypto related stuffs without any hindrance, its very possible with high tech and artificial Intelligence all these put together can be channeled into an idea of creating the machines for visually impaired although the technology will be highly sophisticated and very expensive.
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September 23, 2020, 02:03:41 PM
#91
Maybe blind people will be having hard time while setting up their wallet and it is nearly impossible for now but in terms of spending we can still make it possible with QR code scanners or crypto debit cards but until now not much place to spend our cryptos so I believe there will be some technology to assists the blind people to live normal life as everyone.
legendary
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September 23, 2020, 01:57:09 PM
#90
However, my concern is how blind people are able to get used to Bitcoin? To my knowledge, wallets (either with a GUI or CLI) don't have "text-to-speech" features to make blind people's lives easier.

This is a concern but not an immediate one since the market group in comparison to the main stream is rather small. Some would think from reading this that this is deliberate inequality but as a business one has to focus on its target market.

At the same time, this is a whole which provides an opportunity if one wishes to invest into it. Because of the large financial implications, I fear not many investors are prepared to do that just yet, but as digital currency becomes more common I'm certain some will start thinking about inclusion properly.

There are certainly ways to do it like the 'text-to-speech' recognition feature alas something more flexible would be required and only with the right market research one can start predicting and testing. The other thing to consider is that perhaps this target audience isn't so interested due to luck of knowledge so perhaps for now the better option is to produce more audible content where they can learn more about BTC and blockchain.
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September 23, 2020, 09:00:01 AM
#89
You are right! They do able to hear and it would really be just simple for them to learn via audio and understand on whats bitcoin is all about.
When reading then they can always make use of those traditional tactile writing system if there would be one which wouldnt be hard.
It doesnt really matter if you are visually impared or other disabilities it cant really stop people to learn or do know about bitcoin.

The problem is the difficulty on how they could apply their learning for bitcoin. One idea that I could think is to user their fingerprint as biometrics to create their personal wallet. Their biometrics will enable the system to recognize their private key and public keys. Because for blind people, braile system in bitcoin will make it hard for them to transact. Meaning, the use of voice recognition will be of great help to make transactions in Bitcoin.

Here's an article concerning this discussion.
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September 23, 2020, 08:55:40 AM
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Any thoughts? Huh
Let alone for new innovations like this, facilities and other general services are still not optimal in providing services to people with disabilities. Of course, if there are developers who care about this it will surely give equal opportunities to disabled people to enjoy Crypto world. Although difficult, it does not mean impossible.

I agree with you. Maybe in the future there will be a new innovations here in Crypto currency world that cares about the persons with disabilities. Yes, its not impossible especially that the world now is fully digitalized and there were lots of experts/genius in technology nowadays. And hopefully this blind people will be given a chance too, to work and earn here in crypto industry.
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September 23, 2020, 03:22:17 AM
#87
I don't think they can use bitcoin and other cryptocurrency because how they access to there wallet. this is not practicle.
That is why this topic is created at least for sharing of ideas how Blind people can use crypto even if they are with disabilities .

and since we are in Computer age now,there is no impossible to happen and created.

Maybe they can create a finger print or something in similar for the blind to have full access and control of their crypto assets.

Yeah you've raised a good point and we as a community need to look into this issue. Bitcoin isn't meant just for the privileged but for people from all walks of life.
the Good thing is people like normal has a concern about blind and they will benefit from this.
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