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legendary
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April 19, 2020, 06:06:02 AM
#28
Your take for a visually impaired friendly wallet is great. I would just like to add that, actually, Windows comes with a Text-To-Speech system (bundled with it Assistive feature) - officially known as Narrator. It is able to read webpages and read aloud the current selected widget. With that, I believe that web-based wallet (such as CoinSpace^) are already friendly enough for the visually impaired - considering that they have much more experience in using the Narrator feature already.

* I tested out the Narrator on CoinSpace and it is not that accurate. However, take into consideration that the visually impaired will most likely be used to it already (or that they are using some other proprietary software with more accurate result).
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April 19, 2020, 05:53:45 AM
#27
Assisting the visually disabled is a user interface related issue. It's the wallet that should come up with the solution be it a simple text to speech reader or a wallet based on hotkey. Even the external accessibility software for visually disabled can help them use the wallet. With the adoption of bitcoin increasing, we could expect someone would come up with some ideas to assist them.
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April 19, 2020, 05:49:33 AM
#26
I've been into Bitcoin for quite a few years, and I'm impressed to see how far it has reached in the mainstream world. It's the most widely-adopted cryptocurrency for decentralized payments worldwide without the need for a middleman. In its current state, Bitcoin works wonders for ordinary people like you and me. It's only a matter of putting the right BTC address and the number of coins to send to get started using the Bitcoin blockchain.

However, my concern is how blind people are able to get used to Bitcoin? To my knowledge, wallets (either with a GUI or CLI) don't have "text-to-speech" features to make blind people's lives easier. It'd be great if developers keep blind people in mind to help increase the adoption of the pioneer cryptocurrency in the mainstream world. The only thing I've found is an audiobook of the Bitcoin whitepaper which is a great solution to introduce blind people into the "mechanics" of Bitcoin.

Any thoughts? Huh
Bitcoin and other crypto currencies are not yet ready to serve everyone as it needs to solve first it's problems like what you have mentioned, blind people can't use bitcoin yet if it will implemented as the main payment system. That is only one of many problems that bitcoin will face in case it will be use as main payment someday.

If we are going to compare the fiat and bitcoin, fiat will be a lot simplier for blind people to use compare to bitcoin even if it can provide a mechanics that will convert speech to text and vice versa. But a solution will likely to be provided in the near future where everyone can easily use bitcoin and other currencies without any difficulties as we are continuing to develop our technology.

The @OP want to make a suggestion about the bitcoin use by the blind people and today it is not capable to suit this kind of development because today the use of the bitcoin is into the world of the Internet even we have a lot of devices that supports the people with disability like the sensor it is hard to make a speech program to make some trading and investment to the market of the bitcoin as we see it takes a lot of learnings and experience before we get some earnings into bitcoin also you must need to monitor the market graph also the movement of the coins, some how if the person can handle the speech voice only to make trading it is good but if it is not it can be stressful to the user to make investment on bitcoin to the thing they did not see if the movement is good or not still it is in the capability of the developer and the group project if they want to push this kind of movements.

As I was reading the thread, I realized how the accuracy was on point. I mean, this type of field and opportunity isn't just for those who are aware about these with their naked eyes, but also, for those who are not.

For a person to reach this type of concern is... Wow..

This kind of project will takes time to make because it is all about voice activation and also the infrared sensor to make sure they will really help the users to do the thing they want to their bitcoins.
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April 18, 2020, 08:30:05 PM
#25
I've been into Bitcoin for quite a few years, and I'm impressed to see how far it has reached in the mainstream world. It's the most widely-adopted cryptocurrency for decentralized payments worldwide without the need for a middleman. In its current state, Bitcoin works wonders for ordinary people like you and me. It's only a matter of putting the right BTC address and the number of coins to send to get started using the Bitcoin blockchain.

However, my concern is how blind people are able to get used to Bitcoin? To my knowledge, wallets (either with a GUI or CLI) don't have "text-to-speech" features to make blind people's lives easier. It'd be great if developers keep blind people in mind to help increase the adoption of the pioneer cryptocurrency in the mainstream world. The only thing I've found is an audiobook of the Bitcoin whitepaper which is a great solution to introduce blind people into the "mechanics" of Bitcoin.

Any thoughts? Huh
Bitcoin and other crypto currencies are not yet ready to serve everyone as it needs to solve first it's problems like what you have mentioned, blind people can't use bitcoin yet if it will implemented as the main payment system. That is only one of many problems that bitcoin will face in case it will be use as main payment someday.

If we are going to compare the fiat and bitcoin, fiat will be a lot simplier for blind people to use compare to bitcoin even if it can provide a mechanics that will convert speech to text and vice versa. But a solution will likely to be provided in the near future where everyone can easily use bitcoin and other currencies without any difficulties as we are continuing to develop our technology.
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April 18, 2020, 08:10:59 PM
#24
Probably the 2nd time that I've seen this kind of topic was made. But it has a point that bitcoin should also be accessible by them.

Check out this project that goes over the wallet part: https://icywallet.com/ with a combination of ADA tools like screen readers they could visit an exchange's website to buy or trade coins. There are guidelines like WCAG here: https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/quickref/ that go over accessibility. I'm unaware of any exchanges are trading platforms that have incorporated this into their offerings, maybe someone else can chime in here.
Interesting.

I think I've seen this too on that topic before.

Let's see if huge corporations and known crypto companies, exchanges and other manufacturers will apply this idea to their next editions.
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April 18, 2020, 06:11:20 PM
#23
Well I think you are right since we are trying to leave others out but I think this could be looked out when there is worldwide mass adoption to BTC with that I think it should be all inclusive leaving no one behind. With this innovation all parties must be involved to make it a reality.
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April 18, 2020, 07:09:31 PM
#23
We know that cryptocurrency it's not just like a physical money that can possibly store on a bank, that why it is more risky and unsecured in terms of storing online. But there are ubiquitous way to store this cryptocurrency with the use of hardware wallet, like Ledger Nano and Trezor.

But this is the main problem if there are some blind crypto enthusiast who are willing to work in crypto world. For this issues there are group of people developed a new way of securing crypto currency that help blind people who wants to secure their crypto currency.

This #Icywallet really helped people to engage themselves in crypto currency without doubt and hesitation. https://bitcoinist.com/creating-worlds-first-bitcoin-wallet-blind/
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April 18, 2020, 06:33:55 PM
#22
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Any thoughts? Huh
Let alone for new innovations like this, facilities and other general services are still not optimal in providing services to people with disabilities. Of course, if there are developers who care about this it will surely give equal opportunities to disabled people to enjoy Crypto world. Although difficult, it does not mean impossible.
It is indeed difficult but not impossible although it will require a text-to-speech if the visually impaired person is using. Of course, there's always a way to make things possible for them but someone should fund this kind of project to let the blind people to do trading. The fact that it looks as a handicap already to them I won't say that a blind traders won't make a mistake if the voice is unclear. I can only think a lot of trial and errors for this to possibly happen in the future.
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April 18, 2020, 11:37:11 AM
#21
There are a lot of great innovations today that was invented for people with disabilities scuh as blind people, that is why they manage to get into the trend to use laptops and smartphones. But to be honest, there will be some things that will be complicated for blind people to understand and adopt cryptocurrency and blockchain technology, especially trading and crypto wallets are not user-friendly for blind people because how can they watch the market charts and look at the value if they can't see.
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April 18, 2020, 11:30:23 AM
#20
What we interact with are wallets and it's wallet that are not friendly to blind people. But that might not be the case always as bitcoin gets more popularity. Bitcoin's official wallet is also an open source project and I don't think we could see a text to speech feature or a braille friendly feature anytime soon. A third party, that could even be us who thinks of that group of people should work on creating one.
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April 18, 2020, 11:19:30 AM
#19
Well, Bitcoin and altcoin cryptocurrencies are a great idea as an alternate payment because it works like an E-wallet. This program has plenty of advantages though it also has disadvantages. In a world where all transactions can be done online, bitcoin and altcoin cryptocurrencies are perfect to use. Indeed, there are also countries where online transactions are not yet widely spread especially in rural areas of those third world countries. Likewise, --blind people may not be able to adapt easily on this program because of insufficient assistance using technology. Perhaps it takes time for them to adopt and it needs months or even years.
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April 18, 2020, 10:31:43 AM
#18
Seriously, I have tried to imagine this in some different ways to see whether it would be possible, but the way I see it, it would be difficult to achieve. But anyway, nothing is impossible, you just have to believe that it is possible to do whatever it is and then work hard towards it.

Cryptocurrency addresses are always a very long combination of numbers and letters. Even if it was possible to input a touch and read feature into these cryptocurrency wallet apps, I am wondering how these people will be doing all that, like copying the address of the receiver and then pasting and sending and stuff. Let's just wait until then.
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April 18, 2020, 02:03:15 AM
#17
You should read this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-blind-person-access-bitcoin-5222338 (dunno if you search before you create a new thread and didn't found this). Then wait for similar suggestions and discussion pop-up here. After that, lock this thread.

That won't be the end of it. Soon we might see "Bitcoin for cats/ dogs/ llamas/ aliens" topics too.
legendary
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April 18, 2020, 01:37:58 AM
#16
You should read this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-blind-person-access-bitcoin-5222338 (dunno if you search before you create a new thread and didn't found this). Then wait for similar suggestions and discussion pop-up here. After that, lock this thread.
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April 18, 2020, 12:28:01 AM
#15
Explain to blind peoples regarding bitcoin or bitcoin technology is quite easy but real use by them is almost impossible. Although there isn't huge amount of blind peoples who want to involved with bitcoin but it would be a nice idea if someone would make a new technology for blind people's. I have real life example on my family, my father almost blind (can't read anything even via power glass), I have explained him regarding bitcoin. He know there is a virtual coin which is called bitcoin. But unfortunately he is unable to use it. I don't if there will be something new in near future to use bitcoin for blind people.
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April 18, 2020, 12:06:09 AM
#14
I've been into Bitcoin for quite a few years, and I'm impressed to see how far it has reached in the mainstream world. It's the most widely-adopted cryptocurrency for decentralized payments worldwide without the need for a middleman. In its current state, Bitcoin works wonders for ordinary people like you and me. It's only a matter of putting the right BTC address and the number of coins to send to get started using the Bitcoin blockchain.

However, my concern is how blind people are able to get used to Bitcoin? To my knowledge, wallets (either with a GUI or CLI) don't have "text-to-speech" features to make blind people's lives easier. It'd be great if developers keep blind people in mind to help increase the adoption of the pioneer cryptocurrency in the mainstream world. The only thing I've found is an audiobook of the Bitcoin whitepaper which is a great solution to introduce blind people into the "mechanics" of Bitcoin.

Any thoughts? Huh
Bitcoin for blind people is quite possible if there would be new technology that will be created by our IT experts. Well technology evolves, there are already some technology for blind people, it serves as their thing to express their opinion, that is how technology can give to us. So I think this techbology will be also provided to blind people to use bitcoin, if that things happen, iy would be great because as we all know bitcoin is such a safe haven and it helps so many people. So if blind people would try it using technology that will be created by IT experts they will see how good bitcoin is.
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April 17, 2020, 06:38:04 PM
#13
Bitcoin is a program and can be subject to tons of modifications and customization if consensus approves it. That's the beauty of Bitcoin because it's open source anyone can contribute ideas to help those who are disabled like the blind to be able to use.

It has tons of developer all over the world im sure if some programmer introduces this idea it would be implemented.
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April 17, 2020, 06:37:21 PM
#12
Not all blind people live alone, and there are different levels of blindness:

20/30 to 20/60 : is considered mild vision loss, or near-normal vision
20/70 to 20/160 : is considered moderate visual impairment, or moderate low vision
20/200 to 20/400 : is considered severe visual impairment, or severe low vision
20/500 to 20/1,000 : is considered profound visual impairment, or profound low vision
More than 20/1,000 : is considered near-total visual impairment, or near total blindness
No light perception (NLP) : is considered total visual impairment, or total blindness

Those that can see with some visual impairment would have a better chance to use the technology than those with NLP. People that fall into the NLP category could have a caretaker, friends or family who has introduced them to bitcoin. This would simplify some of these processes if done properly and hopefully with trust. According to some research 25 million around the world are using bitcoin. There is an estimated 39 million blind people in the world (doesn't say what levels they are) and lets say only 10% of them use the internet or have the resources to do so, that would leave us at 3.9 million users. There is no research on what amount of the users are using any cryptocurrencies but I was able to locate a post from 2014 at about an actual blind person attempting to use a wallet and saying his JAWS screen reader was in-compatible (sources: 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ufacn/bitcoin_wallets_are_inaccessible_for_blind_people/ 2. https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-needs-accessible-visually-impaired) Since then I have found nothing in the recent years. I guess you could also bring up the topic that if their screen readers are compatible with exchange websites they could buy and store the coins there, but we all know how that's going to end.
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April 17, 2020, 05:44:00 PM
#11
This is hard especially if no one is guiding you but having an Audio book is a good way to introduce bitcoin but after that, its impossible for them to use bitcoin for now. The population of blind people is also huge and for me they need more of a supportive projects designed for them, so innovation might happen in the future of cryptocurrency. For now, bitcoin is not for the blind people and I hope someone can explain this to them and guide them right.
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April 17, 2020, 06:13:53 PM
#11
This will definitely be a great future and crypto in its entirety is still at the infant stage. When we have a transaction with a user's unique identity like email, phone or other means without the long string we have in wallet, then it will become easier to do text to speech if implemented eventually.
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