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Topic: Bitcoin Forecast, Bitcoin Speculation & Bitcoin Technical Analysis. Up or DOWN? - page 114. (Read 540250 times)

legendary
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You are WRONG!
That's just one big offer.  I cannot tell if this is the same thing this time - but I've seen someone manipulating the market in this manner.
now there is two. Smiley i also seen it before.
and its likely that the price will fall in a correction... i happed before, after a big rise.
i sold mine at $10.
zby
legendary
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let just start it now: Sell! Sell! Sell!

i already sold mine

That's just one big offer.  I cannot tell if this is the same thing this time - but I've seen someone manipulating the market in this manner.
legendary
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You are WRONG!

let just start it now: Sell! Sell! Sell!

i already sold mine
LZ
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Except what are we going to export?  We have given up manufacturing endeavors for financial wizardry endeavors and intellectual property.

The US manufacturing base has increased every decade right up til the present.  We make more stuff, for less cost, then ever.  And we continue to do so.  It's true that manufacturing has fallen off as a percentage of GDP, but it's still huge.


Yes. The United States is currently the top manufacturing nation in the world.

Quote from: National Association of Manufacturers
  • The United States is the world's largest manufacturing economy, producing 21 percent of global manufactured products. China is second at 15 percent and Japan is third at 12 percent.
  • U.S. manufacturing produces $1.6 trillion of value each year, or 11.2 percent of U.S. GDP.

Mods: Sorry if this is off-topic, perhaps we should split a new thread?
legendary
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On a fundamental note: USD is soon going to go into hyperinflation:

Actually, no, it's not.  As bad as that is, the hyperinflationary stage of a fiat currency always requires a political driver.  Not to say it can't happen in the near future, but there would still need to be some major black birds landing on Swan Lake.  Mild inflation favors the banks and those closely connected to them, but they know that massive inflation kills the golden goose.  The central bankers would not permit such inflation rates unless they are forced into that position, which for all practical purposes means that political authorities have forced them to do so.  In the case of the Wiemar Republic, that political force came from outside the country.  In the case of Zimbabwe, it was a misguided series of political decisions by an uneducated dictator with tribal tendencies that none of his yes men had enough balls left to say anything.

I concur. The economy is circling the drain, but that means nothing as far as monetary policy is concerned because ANYTHING BERNANKE DOES WILL BE BAD. anything. He's in a no-win situation. We could just as easily have a deflationary depression.
http://www.safehaven.com/article/20703/bernankes-qex-box

example: weak dollar= more exports, but higher commodity prices
strong dollar= lower commodity prices, but less exports

Except what are we going to export?  We have given up manufacturing endeavors for financial wizardry endeavors and intellectual property.

The US manufacturing base has increased every decade right up til the present.  We make more stuff, for less cost, then ever.  And we continue to do so.  It's true that manufacturing has fallen off as a percentage of GDP, but it's still huge.
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On a fundamental note: USD is soon going to go into hyperinflation:

Actually, no, it's not.  As bad as that is, the hyperinflationary stage of a fiat currency always requires a political driver.  Not to say it can't happen in the near future, but there would still need to be some major black birds landing on Swan Lake.  Mild inflation favors the banks and those closely connected to them, but they know that massive inflation kills the golden goose.  The central bankers would not permit such inflation rates unless they are forced into that position, which for all practical purposes means that political authorities have forced them to do so.  In the case of the Wiemar Republic, that political force came from outside the country.  In the case of Zimbabwe, it was a misguided series of political decisions by an uneducated dictator with tribal tendencies that none of his yes men had enough balls left to say anything.

I concur. The economy is circling the drain, but that means nothing as far as monetary policy is concerned because ANYTHING BERNANKE DOES WILL BE BAD. anything. He's in a no-win situation. We could just as easily have a deflationary depression.
http://www.safehaven.com/article/20703/bernankes-qex-box

example: weak dollar= more exports, but higher commodity prices
strong dollar= lower commodity prices, but less exports

Except what are we going to export?  We have given up manufacturing endeavors for financial wizardry endeavors and intellectual property.  Do you really think people are going to pay us licensing fees for ideas?  They might make one payment, but once the cat is out of the bag, they'll run with it.  And their governments will back them up because thy're no longer afraid of the US.
legendary
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On a fundamental note: USD is soon going to go into hyperinflation:

Actually, no, it's not.  As bad as that is, the hyperinflationary stage of a fiat currency always requires a political driver.  Not to say it can't happen in the near future, but there would still need to be some major black birds landing on Swan Lake.  Mild inflation favors the banks and those closely connected to them, but they know that massive inflation kills the golden goose.  The central bankers would not permit such inflation rates unless they are forced into that position, which for all practical purposes means that political authorities have forced them to do so.  In the case of the Wiemar Republic, that political force came from outside the country.  In the case of Zimbabwe, it was a misguided series of political decisions by an uneducated dictator with tribal tendencies that none of his yes men had enough balls left to say anything.

I concur. The economy is circling the drain, but that means nothing as far as monetary policy is concerned because ANYTHING BERNANKE DOES WILL BE BAD. anything. He's in a no-win situation. We could just as easily have a deflationary depression.
http://www.safehaven.com/article/20703/bernankes-qex-box

example: weak dollar= more exports, but higher commodity prices
strong dollar= lower commodity prices, but less exports
legendary
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On a fundamental note: USD is soon going to go into hyperinflation:

Actually, no, it's not.  As bad as that is, the hyperinflationary stage of a fiat currency always requires a political driver.  Not to say it can't happen in the near future, but there would still need to be some major black birds landing on Swan Lake.  Mild inflation favors the banks and those closely connected to them, but they know that massive inflation kills the golden goose.  The central bankers would not permit such inflation rates unless they are forced into that position, which for all practical purposes means that political authorities have forced them to do so.  In the case of the Wiemar Republic, that political force came from outside the country.  In the case of Zimbabwe, it was a misguided series of political decisions by an uneducated dictator with tribal tendencies that none of his yes men had enough balls left to say anything.

Not to derail the thread but don't you think there's plenty of political motivation right now?  Unsustainable spending and debt levels will certainly encourage the money spigot to continue to flow, even if the political class denies it.  There is far more motivation for that then to drastically cut spending.  In addition all it takes is one major creditor to decide our bonds aren't safe and it could start a run, with the Fed as the only remaining buyer. 

Don't get me wrong its looking more and more like another deflationary scare this summer first but that'll just be an excuse to print more.  I agree the bankers prefer the slow and steady inflation but I think they're finally losing control of the system.

On a bitcoin note who's rooting for 18?  Grin

A sovereign debt default by the US is not just remote, it would signal to the world's bondholders that there was no safe haven left on Earth.  Gold, silver and some classes of commodities would shoot for the moon, but that is not the same as inflation.  Inflation, at it's core, is expansion of the monetary base beyond the growth of the underlying economy; which favors those with first access to the new currency.  Hyperinflation, therefore, is the panic expansion of monetary base by political will.  No bankers would voluntarily do this, they would rather have massive deflation because with deflation at least their con game could potentially resume after the crunch.  Once hyperinflation begins, there is no historical evidence that it can be stopped prior to the total destruction of the currency itself; if for no other reason than the public has already lost trust (in the government, in the currency itself) and will actively avoid transacting in the currency at all, and when they must will actively avoid holding that currency.  This results in a massive increase in velocity, as every buyer is trying to spend what they have before the value goes down further.

If this were to happen to the US (not impossible) where then would the wealthy find haven?
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On a fundamental note: USD is soon going to go into hyperinflation:

Actually, no, it's not.  As bad as that is, the hyperinflationary stage of a fiat currency always requires a political driver.  Not to say it can't happen in the near future, but there would still need to be some major black birds landing on Swan Lake.  Mild inflation favors the banks and those closely connected to them, but they know that massive inflation kills the golden goose.  The central bankers would not permit such inflation rates unless they are forced into that position, which for all practical purposes means that political authorities have forced them to do so.  In the case of the Wiemar Republic, that political force came from outside the country.  In the case of Zimbabwe, it was a misguided series of political decisions by an uneducated dictator with tribal tendencies that none of his yes men had enough balls left to say anything.

Not to derail the thread but don't you think there's plenty of political motivation right now?  Unsustainable spending and debt levels will certainly encourage the money spigot to continue to flow, even if the political class denies it.  There is far more motivation for that then to drastically cut spending.  In addition all it takes is one major creditor to decide our bonds aren't safe and it could start a run, with the Fed as the only remaining buyer. 

Don't get me wrong its looking more and more like another deflationary scare this summer first but that'll just be an excuse to print more.  I agree the bankers prefer the slow and steady inflation but I think they're finally losing control of the system.

On a bitcoin note who's rooting for 18?  Grin
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Yes, it seems we are going up indeed. Which is actually a very good thing. For great succes there must be a much larger combined value in Bitcoins to uphold a strong economy, but it also should become a bit less volatile. So the way I see it, the sooner we get to much higher levels and some price stability, the better :-) As long as the value can jump 20+% on a day, it will be hard to build an actually good functioning community on top of it.

Anyways, this is my first post here. I have been buying in for a few days now. Unfortunatly, and I really hate this, I havent ran into this at an earlier stage. I really love it! Actually, I was explaning the very concept (and benefits) of the Bitcoins to my girlfriend about a week ago. Before I knew it already existed.

I am still awaiting a Paxum transfer to Mt. Gox to arrive. Does anyone have any idea on how long it takes for these funds to be credited to my account?
legendary
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On a fundamental note: USD is soon going to go into hyperinflation:

Actually, no, it's not.  As bad as that is, the hyperinflationary stage of a fiat currency always requires a political driver.  Not to say it can't happen in the near future, but there would still need to be some major black birds landing on Swan Lake.  Mild inflation favors the banks and those closely connected to them, but they know that massive inflation kills the golden goose.  The central bankers would not permit such inflation rates unless they are forced into that position, which for all practical purposes means that political authorities have forced them to do so.  In the case of the Wiemar Republic, that political force came from outside the country.  In the case of Zimbabwe, it was a misguided series of political decisions by an uneducated dictator with tribal tendencies that none of his yes men had enough balls left to say anything.
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Live and Let Live
legendary
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Wow...that's quite impressive. I guess we're going to be taken on a roller coaster ride soon....
LZ
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legendary
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I've always thought this kind of analysis is bullshit, but the fact remains, this guy has never been wrong. Props to you, Sir.

Yes, S3052 has done a really good job applying Elliott Wave theory to bitcoin.  What I find extra amazing is that EW theory seems to apply in this market despite the fact the composition and number of participants is changing dramatically and quickly.  The overall investing behaviour of new participants seems to match old participants.  I would have thought they would have been bullish immediately upon finding out about bitcoin, but apparently their willingness to buy waxes and wanes with everybody else.
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I've always thought this kind of analysis is bullshit, but the fact remains, this guy has never been wrong. Props to you, Sir.
hero member
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Hello world!
S3052, you are doing a great job I must say!

I was wondering however, if you take upcoming media coverage of Bitcoin into your short term analysis?

In those cases where you know in advance of course Smiley
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That pool is more wishfull thinking than anything...

But good that the wishes happen!

I only hope the price rise wait a bit until I have new batch of money to dump into bitcoin
legendary
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