Bitcoin - Institutional Investments in 2020 and beyond

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Quote from: casperBGD on February 10, 2021, 08:22:37 AM

one more Investor is publicly with BTC, Ukranian Monobank co-founder Oleg Gorokhovsky announced that he has holdings in BTC, and targets $100k price in this or next year
https://decrypt.co/57259/monobank-co-founder-invests-in-bitcoin-predicting-100000-price-target

seems that more and more Investors are announcing their involvement with BTC, and this year could provide healthy growth for the network and price should come afterwards, there is much uprising price pressure in whole crypto industry, which is not that good, since the rise is too fast for my taste, but it is always better to look at green, than red charts

Because it was triggered up by the richest man on earth right now so for sure the other big institutional investors will be hyped and put a investment on bitcoins. But I wonder on what will happen to them if bitcoins drop down and will not meet there expected target, I hope they know on when to do the cut loss since if not provably they cry and file a bankruptcy.

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one more Investor is publicly with BTC, Ukranian Monobank co-founder Oleg Gorokhovsky announced that he has holdings in BTC, and targets $100k price in this or next year
https://decrypt.co/57259/monobank-co-founder-invests-in-bitcoin-predicting-100000-price-target

seems that more and more Investors are announcing their involvement with BTC, and this year could provide healthy growth for the network and price should come afterwards, there is much uprising price pressure in whole crypto industry, which is not that good, since the rise is too fast for my taste, but it is always better to look at green, than red charts

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it is probably all heard already, but Tesla reportedly bought 1,5 billion in BTC, according to their filling to SEC
https://decrypt.co/56957/elon-musks-tesla-has-invested-1-5-billion-into-bitcoin

as well, they will accept BTC payments for Tesla cars in near future

important milestone, and as said by Hirsch from eToro this could be the moment when we realized BTC goes mainstream

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Quote from: jjdub7 on February 03, 2021, 10:23:33 PM

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I think there will be more institutional investors and mutual funds every month. Crypto is trending now. And the price will go only in one direction!

I have repeatedly come across information that the Chicago stock exchange is deliberately creating Ethereum futures trading, in which institutional capital is interested, as well as Bitcoin. I believe that this fact also has a very good effect on the growth and development of the cryptocurrency market.

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I think there will be more institutional investors and mutual funds every month. Crypto is trending now. And the price will go only in one direction!

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Quote from: newwest on February 03, 2021, 09:12:05 AM

Quote from: Pito001 on January 30, 2021, 09:16:41 AM

Good to know that more and more Institutionals in the game. However, even more of them are shorting btc according to stats

Pandemic has helped them to think out of the box and rather than just investing in traditional assets and method they have started considering bitcoin as a good option now. This will help them to diversify and bitcoin will get the boost as now considering few institutions have purchased other would follow the same.

This means that the market is mature enough to accept bitcoin as an investment asset. There are many factors here, and the most important thing is that the coming pandemic, the associated increased pumping of the money supply by the states, made more and more investors think about finding an investment object to protect against inflation. Let's hope that the wall of distrust has already been broken and bitcoin will hold this won market niche.

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Quote from: newwest on February 03, 2021, 09:12:05 AM

Quote from: Pito001 on January 30, 2021, 09:16:41 AM

Good to know that more and more Institutionals in the game. However, even more of them are shorting btc according to stats

Pandemic has helped them to think out of the box and rather than just investing in traditional assets and method they have started considering bitcoin as a good option now. This will help them to diversify and bitcoin will get the boost as now considering few institutions have purchased other would follow the same.

Not really thinking out of the box, these institutions just observed how fast this technology's popularity is spreading across different countries, and they just made use or took advantage of it, by engaging as a third party network securing taxation in every transaction by means of higher fees, compared to traditional exchangers. But it is somewhat of a win-win situation. They will benefit from "adopting" this technology, while this industry will benefit in a way that these platforms will help spreading and enlarging the trust to use cryptocurrencies. Hoping that someday, more people will benefit from the use of this technology.

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Quote from: Pito001 on January 30, 2021, 09:16:41 AM

Good to know that more and more Institutionals in the game. However, even more of them are shorting btc according to stats

Pandemic has helped them to think out of the box and rather than just investing in traditional assets and method they have started considering bitcoin as a good option now. This will help them to diversify and bitcoin will get the boost as now considering few institutions have purchased other would follow the same.

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with all the positive news, there is one that call caution on Institutional investments, namely Ruffer sold part of their holdings in BTC, since earning double in a month, and now have risk-free position, mainly the same as investment (750 million USD), although having half BTC quantity, compared to initial buying

https://decrypt.co/56437/ruffer-scores-750-million-profit-from-bitcoin-citing-immediate-fireworks

they were happy with gains, and decided to cut-down their risk, with pulling-out initial capital, easing buying pressure and increasing selling pressure in January, what do you think will the other Institutional investors, that already made money follow this example, or they will stay in for the matter?

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Good to know that more and more Institutionals in the game. However, even more of them are shorting btc according to stats

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Just reading an article from Friday about Blockfi applying to the SEC for A Bitcoin Fund
to compete with Grayscale etc.

Quote from: https://www.coindesk.com/blockfi-bitcoin-trust

Crypto Lender BlockFi Registers Bitcoin Trust With SEC

From the article they also mention OSPREY and VALKYRIE who have recently entered the game.

These could be something for your list?
The space is opening up because of the demand from Institutional Investors who dont want
to have to take "ownership" of their Bitcoin, just like if they buy Gold or Oil, they dont expect to
have it physically in their possesion.

Quote from: https://www.coindesk.com/valkyrie-digital-assets-files-for-bitcoin-etf?amp=1

Valkyrie Digital Assets Files for Bitcoin ETF

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Quote from: casperBGD on January 12, 2021, 09:45:53 AM

The list will consist from the investment groups and funds that published their involvement and total funds with them, without Grayscale, since that is a custodian for a large number of individual investors, which is arguably the biggest BTC holder at the moment with above 600k BTC at the moment, according to their website https://grayscale.co/bitcoin-trust/
May 2020 - Paul Tudor Jones
August 2020 - Microstrategy
October 2020 - Square
November 2020 - Stanley Druckenmiller
November 2020 - PayPal
December 2020 - MassMutual
December 2020 - Ruffer Investment
December 2020 - One River

It is good news that every time we see companies add Bitcoin to their portfolios. It will give Bitcoin its true value in the future if those companies hold on to their Bitcoin investments. At the same time, it is scary that all those bitcoins will be held in several hands. We can expect from Elon Musk to add some cryptocurrencies to its portfolio soon.

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https://ambcrypto.com/miami-mayor-explores-idea-to-put-1-treasury-reserves-into-bitcoin/

Miami is considering putting 1% of their treasury into BTC, which is rather another good news and institutional acceptance, and here we are talking about USA

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Quote from: casperBGD on January 12, 2021, 09:45:53 AM

The list will consist from the investment groups and funds that published their involvement and total funds with them, without Grayscale, since that is a custodian for a large number of individual investors, which is arguably the biggest BTC holder at the moment with above 600k BTC at the moment, according to their website https://grayscale.co/bitcoin-trust/

They may not really end up with a lot more like this year, I am not expecting another half a million bitcoins sold this year and hopefully they do not corner the market completely. Think about it this way, if the huge companies have 10 million bitcoins, if satoshi and all early birds that do not sell have few million, if combined hodlers have few million, that would leave very little bitcoins to trade and that is what I think is the real trouble here, if there is a very limited amount, that would destroy the market.

Everyone thinks that if there is less supply but a lot of demand the price should go up, but when there is a lot of demand yet no supply people will start to go away due to lack of supply and find other things that does have supply. So I hope companies to keep on buying but not a lot, not millions of them, just few ten thousand bitcoin is more than enough.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on January 17, 2021, 02:17:33 PM

They are smarter and also richer as well which allows them to wait a lot longer. A regular person who has invested 40 thousand dollars of his own money, when he has 50 thousand dollars on his savings account, sees bitcoin going towards 32 thousand dollars and he might panic and sell his coins to get out before he losses more money, that is how people think when they do not have too much money and act emotionally with their money.

However a huge company go into bitcoin, spend tens of millions of dollars on buying bitcoin, still has hundreds of millions of dollars aside, losing few million dollars due to drop is nothing to them, it is literally just bonus money for some executives, nothing major for them which allows them to wait it out and see the price go back up again and not act emotionally during any fall. That is why they are going to get richer from crypto and they know it, and it is spreading among the big companies.

Well, I do assure you many executives have a lot of pressure on them about the correctness of their choices. Actually, the short term correctness of their choices.
Do you remember when Elon Musk wanted to take TSLA private at 420? This was to focus on the long term success of his firm, without worrying too much about the quarterly reporting cycle.
I think it is not a coincidence if the first and only firm that bought BTC has been Microstrategy, where the CEO has a 70%+ voting supermajority: even if BTC dips for a quarter or two (Something cannot be ruled out) he is not risking his position.

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They are smarter and also richer as well which allows them to wait a lot longer. A regular person who has invested 40 thousand dollars of his own money, when he has 50 thousand dollars on his savings account, sees bitcoin going towards 32 thousand dollars and he might panic and sell his coins to get out before he losses more money, that is how people think when they do not have too much money and act emotionally with their money.

However a huge company go into bitcoin, spend tens of millions of dollars on buying bitcoin, still has hundreds of millions of dollars aside, losing few million dollars due to drop is nothing to them, it is literally just bonus money for some executives, nothing major for them which allows them to wait it out and see the price go back up again and not act emotionally during any fall. That is why they are going to get richer from crypto and they know it, and it is spreading among the big companies.

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Quote from: so98nn on January 16, 2021, 01:44:22 AM

Institutional investment comes from the share holders of that company which means we are securing large portion of money into bitcoin market and thus can assure bitcoin won’t fall unless these people take out their large amount of money out of it. This anyways impossible in the first place since they are long term holders too.

Are you serious, what do you mean by it is impossible? Even if they are long term investors, long term is not a life time so these people can still pull their money out from the market at anytime and it will affect the market.

Unless what you should say is that by that time more and more individual/retail investors would have joined and invested their money and the community will grow enough before they think of removing their money from the market. That’s the only way that the community wouldn’t feel it. But as long as these institutions holds the highest share of the market, whenever they sell, the market will be affected.

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Every time the price of bitcoin goes down I think that some firm is buying.
Bitcoin is at the best moment, now Bitcoin holders think of a long-term investment and more institutions are adopting bitcoin as a treasury reserve asset.

The positive in this situation is that the crypto market is optimistic and all the other coins are showing their progress.

It is appropriate to think of bitcoin users who need user-friendly dapps so that they can manage their bitcoin comfortably, easily, safely, quickly and with low fees.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on January 16, 2021, 10:41:48 AM

With the number of institutions investing in Bitcoin, the price of Bitcoin is increasing. This is very good for the development of Bitcoin,
so it is not surprising that Bitcoin finally managed to hit the ATH price above $ 40,000. Of all the institutions investing in Bitcoin,
perhaps the most influential thing was when Paypal decided to invest in Bitcoin and gave access to US users can buy BTC. So since
November 2020 the Bitcoin price has increased dramatically until early January 2021. I hope that in 2021 there will be more institutions
investing in Bitcoin, so that the Bitcoin price can rise even higher.

however, take note that how PayPal is introducing bitcoin or crypto to their users is very different. but in any case, it is already a good intro to their users about crypto. and once they realised that there's more in store for them beyond PayPal, they will be strong users of crypto outside of their jurisdiction. but it's true, the launch of crypto in PayPal drives further adoption. after all, they have millions of users already.
and with regards to financial institutions, it seems that they are still buying. although we saw the drop to about 30k, and yet we are up again. seems that we will not drop below 30k this time. let's see.

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With the number of institutions investing in Bitcoin, the price of Bitcoin is increasing. This is very good for the development of Bitcoin,
so it is not surprising that Bitcoin finally managed to hit the ATH price above $ 40,000. Of all the institutions investing in Bitcoin,
perhaps the most influential thing was when Paypal decided to invest in Bitcoin and gave access to US users can buy BTC. So since
November 2020 the Bitcoin price has increased dramatically until early January 2021. I hope that in 2021 there will be more institutions
investing in Bitcoin, so that the Bitcoin price can rise even higher.

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