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Topic: BITCOIN IS BETTER THAN WESTERN UNION ? - page 54. (Read 70016 times)

legendary
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November 30, 2015, 08:40:12 AM
ok guys....

i am actually a lover of bitcoin, i earn it, live off it. but one thing i do hate is everyone over exagerating bitcoin as its deceptive.. so
lets see actual examples..

i want to see screenshots of being able to buy bitcoin via fiat.. showing the rate and value of bitcoin obtained.
i want to see screenshots of that amount being sold to another fiat.. showing the rate and value the recipient would receive in that final fiat.

i then want to see a screenshot of WU calculation of that same FIAT to FIAT transfer..

for these examples. use $100 or $1000 as example amounts in your screenshots. that way its easy to calculate/compare.

i have done it a few times using localbitcoins, searching for the best spreads offered. and done so using multiple currencies on each side. and not found one that gives a better recipient receiving amount..

so to all those 'not liking form filling in' and 'not liking waiting 2 hours' that limits some options such as exchanges requiring verification

show me your best ways to get one fiat into another fiat without form filling (thus avoiding signing up to exchanges to link accounts). and without having to wait for 3 confirmations on deposits/withdrawals of coin on each side (thus not taking upto 2 hours delay).

so there is your challenge.. to not praise the utopian theory of bitcoins usefulness.. but to show actual examples of it working in reality
sr. member
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November 30, 2015, 08:13:23 AM
I am new with this Bitcoin thing and yes this one of the reason I like Bitcoin.

You don't need to fill a form you just send it when you want for a cheap amount.
legendary
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November 30, 2015, 05:32:11 AM
It's not comparable, both of them are recommended.

not right, there is nothing that bitcoin can not substitute, it's a global means of payment after all

why i should pay more when i pay less, i don't mind waiting a bit more for confirmation if this is your concern, you can wait when you do online spending

WU very useful for someone who doesn't know about the technology and bitcoin,
usually if a person works abroad they will be confused, to send money to their parents,
their parents, can not play bitcoin WU  is best choice

well if this is another problem about educating themselves for bitcoin, it's more like their fault than bitcoin itself

i can't see how this is a problem of bitcoin, by learning new stuff they can save more, like it was for email vs fax and stuff like that

bitcoin is the natural next step in the future
legendary
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November 30, 2015, 05:14:30 AM
I've been reading some of the comments in this thread and it seems that there is a lot of hate towards WU. Sure they may have outrageous fees but there are many situations where the service they provide is useful. Back in 2005 when I was backpacking in Nepal, I found myself in a tight situation with money, it would've taken forever to work something out with the banks over there, good thing they had WU, my parents sent me some money that I received within a few hours.
hero member
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November 30, 2015, 04:45:00 AM
It's not comparable, both of them are recommended.

not right, there is nothing that bitcoin can not substitute, it's a global means of payment after all

why i should pay more when i pay less, i don't mind waiting a bit more for confirmation if this is your concern, you can wait when you do online spending

WU very useful for someone who doesn't know about the technology and bitcoin,
usually if a person works abroad they will be confused, to send money to their parents,
their parents, can not play bitcoin WU  is best choice
legendary
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Merit: 1006
November 30, 2015, 04:41:13 AM
Bitcoin is fat better than western union in terms of fee and speed for the one who send and who receives it. But the only problem arises due to untrackable transactions making government to ban bitcoin due to risk of money laundering. If every country allow to open bitcoin exchanger than bitcoin can replace traditional money transfer services.
legendary
Activity: 3248
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November 30, 2015, 03:58:53 AM
It's not comparable, both of them are recommended.

not right, there is nothing that bitcoin can not substitute, it's a global means of payment after all

why i should pay more when i pay less, i don't mind waiting a bit more for confirmation if this is your concern, you can wait when you do online spending
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1001
November 30, 2015, 01:48:17 AM
Probably yes because you can paybills here,,  western is  also good but not better

Well i have seen a website where you can pay bills through bitcoins but depends on the country the website is bitbill.eu, if you can then for you its much better bitcoin rather than western union.
newbie
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November 30, 2015, 01:45:27 AM
Probably yes because you can paybills here,,  western is  also good but not better
legendary
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November 30, 2015, 01:43:23 AM
Of course it is better than W.E. Wester Union is an outdated, overpriced, overused, crappy piece of crap. Why not use PayPal?

Bitcoin is far better. Since it is not controlled by a central source, it is controlled by the community who makes transactions. These people also control the tx fees, keeping them low.

Western Union is not outdated, lol they are pretty good (maybe the best) service on its field, bitcoin is better if the other party accepts bitcoin, otherwise you have to make the deal in fiat money and transfer maybe through wester union.
full member
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November 29, 2015, 10:38:13 PM
Definitely I could never ever touch western union Btc for life xd
hero member
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November 29, 2015, 10:28:10 PM
In bitcoin you need only address to receive it anywhere, this is not like W.U , you need some document, to proof it.

About fee, bitcoin is best option for all payment gateway in the world Smiley
legendary
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November 29, 2015, 10:08:59 PM
People still don't understand that WU works differently, it's not for tech savvy people. You get cash in a window. When Bitcoin can provide the same with cheaper rates we can discuss...
legendary
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give me your cryptos
November 29, 2015, 06:26:05 PM
Of course it is better than W.E. Wester Union is an outdated, overpriced, overused, crappy piece of crap. Why not use PayPal?

Bitcoin is far better. Since it is not controlled by a central source, it is controlled by the community who makes transactions. These people also control the tx fees, keeping them low.
hero member
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November 29, 2015, 05:44:04 PM
At the moment bitcoin looses into the exchange into fiat ,as soon as bitcoin be able and accepted everywhere we wont be loosing any satoshi to convert,till that day we must collect and spend some coins and always refill our new bank system.
legendary
Activity: 4424
Merit: 4794
November 29, 2015, 04:50:28 PM
You are right when it comes to localbitcoins. But what if in many places in the world there are ATM's that support fiat to Bitcoin and vice versa. If you send some one $1000 worth of Bitcoin with a 0.0001 BTC fee, and the receiver can cash out his coins for fiat in a Bitcoin accepted ATM against a 0.1% fee for example, then it is definitely cheaper.

you actually think that ATM's are only 0.1% fee..
seriously check them out and do a example calculation, especially checking out the spread.. as that is always a hidden difference.

for instance
lets say the prices of bitcoin are:
$330 - bitfinex
$320 -btc-e
$325 - coinbase.

an ATM allows you to buys at bitfinex rate and sell your bitcoin at BTC-e rate..remember, spread is not fee.. so they can play with spread and not even mention fee.. but then separately add on a 0.1% fee after

so say you had $330.33 you would get 1bitcoin.. but then sell it from the exact same ATM machine. you would only get $319.68 back ($10.65 loss) and thats before playing with the volatility of different fiat currency valuations
member
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November 29, 2015, 04:19:11 PM
It's not comparable, both of them are recommended.
full member
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November 29, 2015, 06:58:09 AM
LOL nice thread
Bitcoin better then that shit in many ways!!
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November 29, 2015, 06:41:12 AM
I would prefer using bitcoins over western union, my main reason is because of scammers I had to deal with in the past, which was partially my fault but that's no reason for anyone to steal money.
hero member
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November 29, 2015, 04:22:16 AM
Western union  Undecided
sometimes when I want to send money to my brother in abroad
there is a problem, sometimes the office is closed and it hinders me to send

That is the reason people are using bitcoins mainly for online transfers as bitcoin transfers are available for 24/7 you can send and receive money anytime and also instantly, and again the higher transaction costs are eliminated when it comes to online transfers using bitcoins, more and more people would start using bitcoins for online transfers.
yeah true, with bitcoin we can go anytime, but for now we should you use fiat for convert btc to main currency, it was a little bothersome
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