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The user experience will improve over the time. I saw people over 60 years of age using iphone.
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Bitcoin really is just too complicated to aquire. You need to go through a god damn identity verification if you want to buy the coins with your credit card. Its just too much work for the average person, and this fact means that less people will be using bitcoin. And if less people are using bitcoin, then there won't be any point buying them. Its an infinite loop of despair.

You can use localbitcoin or something similar:
For example in Italy we have different sites that sells bitcoin by recharging a prepaid card or you can use Purse or Brawker (obliviously the fee is higher, but it's the price for "anonymity") .

But even with local bitcoin they still need to do a bank transfer to an unknown person and a random bank account. If you walked up to average joe and told him to send money overseas to some random account and you'll get digital numbers that 'works like money' they won't do it. They'll keep using fiat.
Anywhere else requires verification and all sorts of random goobly gop.
legendary
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Bitcoin really is just too complicated to aquire. You need to go through a god damn identity verification if you want to buy the coins with your credit card. Its just too much work for the average person, and this fact means that less people will be using bitcoin. And if less people are using bitcoin, then there won't be any point buying them. Its an infinite loop of despair.

even for fiat you need verification, so this must no be the problem, a real problem could be the security issue, average people are afraid to lose money with bitcoin, then with fiat

you are not really protected with bitcoin compared to fiat
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Bitcoin really is just too complicated to aquire. You need to go through a god damn identity verification if you want to buy the coins with your credit card. Its just too much work for the average person, and this fact means that less people will be using bitcoin. And if less people are using bitcoin, then there won't be any point buying them. Its an infinite loop of despair.

You can use localbitcoin or something similar:
For example in Italy we have different sites that sells bitcoin by recharging a prepaid card or you can use Purse or Brawker (obliviously the fee is higher, but it's the price for "anonymity") .
legendary
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Bitcoin really is just too complicated to aquire. You need to go through a god damn identity verification if you want to buy the coins with your credit card. Its just too much work for the average person, and this fact means that less people will be using bitcoin. And if less people are using bitcoin, then there won't be any point buying them. Its an infinite loop of despair.
legendary
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definitely not true, it's very easy for anyone to use it, it is only difficult to understand the technical aspects of it

and obtaining bitcoin is easy too, the problem is more related to taxes than anything else
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Bitcoin isn't too hard for the average user to use.
Bitcoin is too hard for the average joe to aquire!

You need to have BTCitcoin to use BTCitcoin.

Have a look at what just got posted on Reddit's r/Bitcoin http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31yg78/bitcoin_is_the_future_of_money_is_it/

It's not that hard and will get even easier. Plenty of people willing to sell you bitcoins for cash on local bitcoin or other local listing sites. I don't think bitcoin is difficult to use either though I think it could seem daunting to get into or use at first but it's just getting over that initial hurdle.
The real problem for average people is the safe of bitcoin, even the professional company's money could be stolen, how can expect an average people can keep his coin safe?
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Bitcoin isn't too hard for the average user to use.
Bitcoin is too hard for the average joe to aquire!

You need to have BTCitcoin to use BTCitcoin.

Have a look at what just got posted on Reddit's r/Bitcoin http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31yg78/bitcoin_is_the_future_of_money_is_it/

It's not that hard and will get even easier. Plenty of people willing to sell you bitcoins for cash on local bitcoin or other local listing sites. I don't think bitcoin is difficult to use either though I think it could seem daunting to get into or use at first but it's just getting over that initial hurdle.
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Bitcoin certainly isn't that complicated to use, but it's quite complicated to obtain/buy.

Definitely not. Go to Localbitcoins, and there are multiple options, such as Skrill, Western Union, SWIFT Transfer, M-Pesa.etc to purchase / sell Bitcoins. It is really easy.
Uh, no it isn't? I'm a Canadian citizen, but I'm in China right now. I can buy food, or clothes or a laptop or a tv or even a house. But I can't buy bitcoins, because I need all sorts of proofs, phone authentication, etc. I don't have any of the services you mentioned above (except swift through the bank), so I'd have to register for those and then register on local bitcoins, and then find someone who is trustworthy enough, and somehow make them trust me. And even then, the closest people on localbitcoins to where I am now is an hour away. And I'm in one of the largest cities in China. That's not "really easy", lol.

For a normal person, if I can just get cash through an atm or pay with a credit card, why would I bother spending so much time and effort and fees to get bitcoin?

There are hundreds of sellers with good reputation in China. Many of them accept Western Union. Is it that hard to go to the local branch of Western Union, and make the payment?

You clearly are not getting the point. Are you willing to drive 3 hours, give out all your personal information, wait for confirmation, just so you can buy a more expensive and shady knock-off of an Aero bar?

Is it "that hard"? It obviously depends on what you're trying to do. For that amount of effort, if I could cure cancer, cure old age, and earn a billion dollars, yeah, it's not hard. For a freaking bitcoin? Of course it's complicated!
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good reputation in China. Many of them accept Western Union. Is it that hard to go to the local branch of Western Union, and make the payment?

Yeah, because nothing sounds more legitimate for a non-tech savvy user joining in with Bitcoin for the first time than going to a bank and sending a payment to an anonymous person in China.
legendary
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Bitcoin certainly isn't that complicated to use, but it's quite complicated to obtain/buy.

Definitely not. Go to Localbitcoins, and there are multiple options, such as Skrill, Western Union, SWIFT Transfer, M-Pesa.etc to purchase / sell Bitcoins. It is really easy.
Uh, no it isn't? I'm a Canadian citizen, but I'm in China right now. I can buy food, or clothes or a laptop or a tv or even a house. But I can't buy bitcoins, because I need all sorts of proofs, phone authentication, etc. I don't have any of the services you mentioned above (except swift through the bank), so I'd have to register for those and then register on local bitcoins, and then find someone who is trustworthy enough, and somehow make them trust me. And even then, the closest people on localbitcoins to where I am now is an hour away. And I'm in one of the largest cities in China. That's not "really easy", lol.

For a normal person, if I can just get cash through an atm or pay with a credit card, why would I bother spending so much time and effort and fees to get bitcoin?

There are hundreds of sellers with good reputation in China. Many of them accept Western Union. Is it that hard to go to the local branch of Western Union, and make the payment?
legendary
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Ad maiora!
1980: No one will ever have a personal computer it is to complicated to use and serves no purpose.

1990: No one will ever use the internet it's to complicated to use and serves no purpose have you heard of a video recorder.




Only half true.
It was pretty much understood, right from the start, that both technologies were tools with tremendous potential. The user experience was tricky at first, yet people persisted and, as predicted back in the day, the technologies gradually became more and more user friendly.
Email and mobile phones follow a similar pattern.
What is a killer to btc is; losses. There is next to zero forgiveness for human error and no built in or surrounding theft prevention assurances. If you lose your keys, send to wrong address or get caught in a hack your btc are gone forever. Even though precautions are available and with proper knowledge losses can be avoided, it's still too easy for the average user to lose btc, And even a little loss is too much.
None of this is BTC's fault, inherently but any such occurrance leaves a lasting bad impression.
There's also the unregulated nature of the thing. Most people want rules and regulation and see them as protections.
Anarchocapatalism is a bit advanced for most regular joes.
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Well, for anyone born after 1970, it s definitely not complicate to use BTC. If you refer to our grandparents, then probably yes.
However, people do need to adapt, I still see some people refusing to use credit card cause it s some kind of magic piece of plastic which generates money.

Easiness to use it not an issue. The number of scammers in the industry is.
legendary
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Bitcoin isn't too hard for the average user to use.
Bitcoin is too hard for the average joe to aquire!

You need to have BTCitcoin to use BTCitcoin.

Have a look at what just got posted on Reddit's r/Bitcoin http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31yg78/bitcoin_is_the_future_of_money_is_it/

I have to agree with you on that... If you live in a 1st world country, you have loads of ATM's and merchants accepting BTC around every corner. Most people I spoke to, when I work on contract basis in 3rd world countries, says "Yes... it's a great technology... BUT... How do we get Bitcoins and where do we spend it?"

The irony is also... In some 1st world countries {USA}... it's even more difficult to acquire Bitcoins through legitimate services, because of all the KYC and AML regulations.

We talk the talk, but we do not walk the talk.  Angry
sr. member
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Bitcoin isn't too hard for the average user to use.
Bitcoin is too hard for the average joe to aquire!

You need to have BTCitcoin to use BTCitcoin.

Have a look at what just got posted on Reddit's r/Bitcoin http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/31yg78/bitcoin_is_the_future_of_money_is_it/
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I don't think Bitcoin is too complicated for the average person to use,Bitcoin wallet just like real wallet and Bitcoin just like money.Once they know what is Bitcoin,I believe they would like it.
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Bitcoin certainly isn't that complicated to use, but it's quite complicated to obtain/buy.

Definitely not. Go to Localbitcoins, and there are multiple options, such as Skrill, Western Union, SWIFT Transfer, M-Pesa.etc to purchase / sell Bitcoins. It is really easy.
Uh, no it isn't? I'm a Canadian citizen, but I'm in China right now. I can buy food, or clothes or a laptop or a tv or even a house. But I can't buy bitcoins, because I need all sorts of proofs, phone authentication, etc. I don't have any of the services you mentioned above (except swift through the bank), so I'd have to register for those and then register on local bitcoins, and then find someone who is trustworthy enough, and somehow make them trust me. And even then, the closest people on localbitcoins to where I am now is an hour away. And I'm in one of the largest cities in China. That's not "really easy", lol.

For a normal person, if I can just get cash through an atm or pay with a credit card, why would I bother spending so much time and effort and fees to get bitcoin?

That's very true and highlights the real issues with Bitcoin from end-user perspective.
sr. member
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Bitcoin certainly isn't that complicated to use, but it's quite complicated to obtain/buy.

Definitely not. Go to Localbitcoins, and there are multiple options, such as Skrill, Western Union, SWIFT Transfer, M-Pesa.etc to purchase / sell Bitcoins. It is really easy.
Uh, no it isn't? I'm a Canadian citizen, but I'm in China right now. I can buy food, or clothes or a laptop or a tv or even a house. But I can't buy bitcoins, because I need all sorts of proofs, phone authentication, etc. I don't have any of the services you mentioned above (except swift through the bank), so I'd have to register for those and then register on local bitcoins, and then find someone who is trustworthy enough, and somehow make them trust me. And even then, the closest people on localbitcoins to where I am now is an hour away. And I'm in one of the largest cities in China. That's not "really easy", lol.

For a normal person, if I can just get cash through an atm or pay with a credit card, why would I bother spending so much time and effort and fees to get bitcoin?
legendary
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Terminated.
People actually consider technology a specialty. They compare it to other possible studying directions. This is wrong. Technology is part of our daily life.
I honestly believe that in 20-30 years not knowing how to properly use technology will be the equivalent to not knowing how to write.
As far as Bitcoin goes, yes it is complicated. When I say complicated I'm talking about the technology behind it and the way it works.

Using Bitcoin is actually very simple to me.
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It's true at this moment.
If you don't understand what is bitcoin, which is complicate for average people, then you will lost your coin very easy.There are a lot of work should be done to make it easy  and secure to use.
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