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Topic: Bitcoin is looking weak. Recommend you guys take profits soon over $1000. - page 2. (Read 6852 times)

sr. member
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Giga
I'm gonna get more money to cavirtex this week in preparation...
I'm actually hoping for a 2 to 3 month consolidation before the bubble that makes bitcoins a viable worldwide barter ledger

Good plan, get that fiat ready. There will be good buys within the next week.
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May I just say, thank fk I know better than to listens to nutters like you!

Yes sir, I will keep my money and am looking forward to owning much more btc than I had, at yet lower prices.

It's your money and your way to lose them Smiley We'll talk again once you buy at 1300.

LOL.
 
Can I ask a question?

How silly are you feeling right now?

Here sir, is downwards bidding plan:

OPEN ORDERS
Order type   Date and time   BTC amount   Bitcoin price      
Buy   Dec. 6, 2013, 1:48 a.m.   5.00000000   $720.00   $3,600.00   
Buy   Dec. 6, 2013, 8:19 a.m.   2.80000000   $680.00   $1,904.00   
Buy   Dec. 6, 2013, 4:57 p.m.   3.00000000   $640.00   $1,920.00   
Buy   Dec. 6, 2013, 7:01 p.m.   5.00000000   $620.00   $3,100.00   

Bitstamp prices.

Now, I just hope that the CRASH isn't so brutal that I am the one who is left feeling very silly.
legendary
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I'm gonna get more money to cavirtex this week in preparation...
I'm actually hoping for a 2 to 3 month consolidation before the bubble that makes bitcoins a viable worldwide barter ledger
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May I just say, thank fk I know better than to listens to nutters like you!

Yes sir, I will keep my money and am looking forward to owning much more btc than I had, at yet lower prices.

It's your money and your way to lose them Smiley We'll talk again once you buy at 1300.

Why should he buy at 1300 ? he will be able to buy around USD 600 soon...

Maybe or maybe not. I would say yes, on this occasion, there is a good chance of going that low. But the only predictable thing about short term swings is that they are mostly unpredictable. Very easy to lose money trying to pick tops and bottoms. Instead, figure out your long term projection of price, and then devise your strategy to eliminate the risk of short term volatility.

Buy and hold is the simplest way to do this.

@MatTheCat: I hope we do go below $800, and you get to buy your cheap coins. Out of interest, if we recover from here, and go above $1000 again, do you have a price at which you will buy back in, if it continues to climb?
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I have now entered at top of market and done quite well, although am losing now and selling at lower prices than I paid to limit damage.

Oh man I considered you to be smarter than that. You just never sell bitcoin cheaper than you bought it, because every dip is a temporary retrace. Your panic mode for bitcoin should mean "stop buying" and then when you think it stopped falling you start buying again. Any other way - and you are just robbing yourself. Can't stop you, of course, but sad to see.

May I just say, thank fk I know better than to listens to nutters like you!

Yes sir, I will keep my money and am looking forward to owning much more btc than I had, at yet lower prices.
I think what he is saying is instead of buying at $1000, selling at $900, then rebuying at $800, you are better off to continue to hold those $1000 coins, and still buy at $800.  That way, when the price returns to $1000+ you are more ahead than if you sold for a loss.

NorbyTheGreek gets it.

EDIT: Note that if you successfully sell at $900 and rebuy at $800, you would be better off than just holding what you bought at $1000 and buying more at $800. The reason for not selling at $900 is to hedge against the possibility that price doesn't make it to $800, and instead goes back up to over $1000. Buying back after this leads to a loss.
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Gow low hit 916 this time. Do you think we'll see more attempts to break 900 this weekend?
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look at the 1 day chart talkjing about DOUBLE TOP, look out down below!!! Tongue
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May I just say, thank fk I know better than to listens to nutters like you!

Yes sir, I will keep my money and am looking forward to owning much more btc than I had, at yet lower prices.

It's your money and your way to lose them Smiley We'll talk again once you buy at 1300.

Why should he buy at 1300 ? he will be able to buy around USD 600 soon...
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Borsche

May I just say, thank fk I know better than to listens to nutters like you!

Yes sir, I will keep my money and am looking forward to owning much more btc than I had, at yet lower prices.

It's your money and your way to lose them Smiley We'll talk again once you buy at 1300.
sr. member
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last chance to take profits above USD 900...  Shocked
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Too late, we're already below $1000 $900.
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If we break $850 on Gox today (that seemed to be the floor in the past couple of days), we may see a nose dive to $600 level.

Scary day nonetheless, strap your seat belts!

Exactly what I had in mind, in the midst of all this sound advice telling me that I shouldn't sell $1100 coins for $1000, when the price looks certain to be going south of $800!

Great bunch of guys on this forum.....
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Giga
If we break $850 on Gox today (that seemed to be the floor in the past couple of days), we may see a nose dive to $600 level.

Scary day nonetheless, strap your seat belts!
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I have now entered at top of market and done quite well, although am losing now and selling at lower prices than I paid to limit damage.

Oh man I considered you to be smarter than that. You just never sell bitcoin cheaper than you bought it, because every dip is a temporary retrace. Your panic mode for bitcoin should mean "stop buying" and then when you think it stopped falling you start buying again. Any other way - and you are just robbing yourself. Can't stop you, of course, but sad to see.

May I just say, thank fk I know better than to listens to nutters like you!

Yes sir, I will keep my money and am looking forward to owning much more btc than I had, at yet lower prices.
I think what he is saying is instead of buying at $1000, selling at $900, then rebuying at $800, you are better off to continue to hold those $1000 coins, and still buy at $800.  That way, when the price returns to $1000+ you are more ahead than if you sold for a loss.
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!!!SMACK DOWN!!!


I have now entered at top of market and done quite well, although am losing now and selling at lower prices than I paid to limit damage.

Oh man I considered you to be smarter than that. You just never sell bitcoin cheaper than you bought it, because every dip is a temporary retrace. Your panic mode for bitcoin should mean "stop buying" and then when you think it stopped falling you start buying again. Any other way - and you are just robbing yourself. Can't stop you, of course, but sad to see.

May I just say, thank fk I know better than to listens to nutters like you!

Yes sir, I will keep my money and am looking forward to owning much more btc than I had, at yet lower prices.
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this thread all of a sudden has a little more relevance.
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a $1000 bitcoin is just not sustainable

This part I agree with. We simply will not be able to sustain such a low price indefinitely.
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The General
With this kind of prediction you're going to make people sell, which will make the prices go down, which might make other people sell. Then at one point someone will say "The price is going up now" and people will buy, which makes the prices go up, which might make even more people buy.

Kind of like this:


Self-fulfilling prophecy
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If anything it looks pretty strong, i think most people here expected the 1000+ price to be as short-lived as 250$+ back in the day.

$250 in April was a lot different because the price had moved up there very quickly with no corrections and no price history. We were at $265 with a daily EMA of $115 and a weekly EMA of $50. Now we are at $1050 with a daily EMA of $910 and a weekly EMA of $400.

The part where we 'flashcrash' back to EMAs is already over. Any drop now is a slow capitulation grind, with a lowest possible target of $400.
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Seems like I'm reliving the first bitcoin bubble which I was very active in.

I got into it when bitcoin first rose up to around $30 in 2010 or 2011, I forget now. I wanted to buy and I was in the forums listening to all the euphoric people. I slowly watched it lose steam, regain steam, and slowly look weaker and weaker.

To me right now bitcoin just looks weak and I think it will be going much lower during the next few weeks.

Just like in 2011, I told everybody while the price was still over $20 that they were crazy to not take profits and cash out at that time. Wasn't a few months it was at $2.00. Call me stupid but I did call $1.00 bitcoins at that time for a long time even though people thought it was crazy and flamed me to hell, I missed my $1.00 range to buy in as it hit $2.01. I was close enough. Same stupid mistake was I predicted oil would hit $20 a barrel in around 2008, it hit like $30, my plan to buy in big at $20 and I missed that opportunity.

While I don't hit my marks, at least I predict big downfalls, contrary to what most people believe.

I'm going to say to everybody that if you are not unloading a large portion of your bitcoins over $1000, you are simply crazy as a $1000 bitcoin is just not sustainable, and is outright ludicrous at this time. I am going to even say further that you are ridiculously stupid if you don't cash out a sizeable amount at over $1000, especially if your bitcoins were bought below $100.

The reason why bitcoin hit around $30 the first time, and over $1000 this time is that their are big players or manipulators, I like to call them. They pump the price up high, get people euphoric and get interest into the coin, then slowly dump the coin to make profits. Pump and dump I guess you can call the strategy.

This strategy simply works, it almost gets me (probably the most frugal person in the world) to buy bitcoins during the first bubble at $30, and even now at $1000. Because I am the most frugal person around I just can't get myself to buy at ridiculously stupid price points. I wait to buy at what you would consider my stupid price points, which get close but never hit. My point is that if these manipulators get frugal people like me to consider buying at these insane prices, it gets a lot of normal people to pump money into the system in which they profit from.

My last point is, don't be stupid and greedy and take money from these rich manipulators. They will soon be letting the price fall very soon and doing a controlled drop while cashing out all the coins they accumulated when bitcoin was much cheaper.

Flame away, but I will stick to my position.

No flame intended, but you'll have to forgive me if I decide not to take your advice.  Your arguments are less than compelling.

Arguments like "the price is ludicrous" and "you're crazy if you don't take profits now" without any sound logical reasoning behind them are not very convincing, and have the tone of someone who is nervous about losing whatever profits they could take right now.  And reasoning like "I've successfully called the crash before!" also doesn't hold water if your reasoning behind calling the last plunge was also emotional.  Inflammatory language like "stupid" and "crazy" tends to distance people from your argument, as does bullying your audience.

When you say "To me right now bitcoin just looks weak" without any logical arguments behind that conclusion, your argument appears strictly emotional.

One thing your post does tell me is that there are people in the market that are getting nervous and are about to sell for emotional reasons, and that once the price does dip a bit those emotional traders will panic and sell.  In a way, your prediction is self-fulfilling.

As for me, I have very little fiat in the market, but that value has grown quite a lot.  I plan to keep holding.  If Bitcoin continues to rise, or rises again after your predicted dip, I'm good.  If it ever crashes to 0, I'm not out much money.

I disagree that the current price is due to "rich" manipulators.  If people are doing anything in the market, they're taking advantage of panic sells in order to gain more profits, and you may be playing into their hands.

I am no expert, and have very little experience in these kinds of things.  These are simply my observations.
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