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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on March 20, 2021, 04:41:46 AM

Reality is that it is not bitcoins fault that people are beaten for their coins, sure there are people who try to steal others bitcoins but that is not caused by bitcoin, there are people who are murdered for dollars every day as well and it is not even nearly same numbers,

When somebody gets beaten and robbed for its bitcoins it's not bitcoin's fault, bitcoin is just a tool, the ones doing the crime are the ones at fault. When somebody sends money to a protester in Belarus somehow Bitcoin is protecting human rights, not the person who sent those bitcoins in the first place. I love to see how when it's used correctly it's treated as an entity with conscience and will of its own but when bad things happen it's just a tool. Reminds me of religion, and no wonder, there are some zealots here that would even start praying to it, as long as the value goes up it will soon be possible for BTC to turn water into wine and revive people.

Btw, I saw a reference to Myanmar, how BTC is helping there also.
I'm pretty curious how it can do this since the military has blocked internet access and I find it hard to believe that every citizen there has a satelite connection.

Quote from: Imran232 on March 20, 2021, 03:21:25 PM

What people want? A freedom, security and a healthy, peaceful and enjoying life style this is the right we also want. And bitcoin gives us those all things.

Didn't knew that, is BTC low on calories?
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The currency's creator, Satoshi Nakamoto, set it to have an ultimate limit of 21 million. No one can ever print more.

Bitcoin transactions can't be stopped, and you don't need to reveal your name or address or telephone number to participate. You just need internet access.

This above is undeniably the real power of bitcoin over fiat. This is the freedom that is needed and that is why bitcoin is still here despite that some government try to pull it down but they can't kill the voice of the people, there citizens always find a way to keep adopting into the freedom they see.

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Yes, Bitcoin gives you all of this and more, financial freedom and the preservation of privacy in addition to transparency, governments and politicians like centralization, control and monitoring of everything, and Bitcoin does not give them that, so they hate Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is the beginning of the era of financial freedom, getting rid of the old system that is based on tyranny, confiscation of money, and imposing censorship on financial movements, and with the presence of Bitcoin, these autocrats will not be able to do anything.

If only there are tons of crypto facilities that can be used in everyday life like in groceries and paying bills without converting into fiat pr at least many atm machine to cashout without going or transferring in bank since in my country it’s still too hard to cashout due to many questions and suspicion of bank due to transactions from trading. Hopefully soon they will know how trading in crypto workd.

When talking about financial freedom because Bitcoin may be the context you mean by using Bitcoin, you are freed from the full influence and control of the Central Bank, but until now the development is that many countries still reject Bitcoin and even create their own country versions. If it is legalized, then it is only a commodity. Do you still think Bitcoin is that free?

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on March 20, 2021, 09:32:30 PM

Yes, Bitcoin gives you all of this and more, financial freedom and the preservation of privacy in addition to transparency, governments and politicians like centralization, control and monitoring of everything, and Bitcoin does not give them that, so they hate Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is the beginning of the era of financial freedom, getting rid of the old system that is based on tyranny, confiscation of money, and imposing censorship on financial movements, and with the presence of Bitcoin, these autocrats will not be able to do anything.

If only there are tons of crypto facilities that can be used in everyday life like in groceries and paying bills without converting into fiat pr at least many atm machine to cashout without going or transferring in bank since in my country it’s still too hard to cashout due to many questions and suspicion of bank due to transactions from trading. Hopefully soon they will know how trading in crypto workd.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on March 20, 2021, 09:32:30 PM

Yes, Bitcoin gives you all of this and more, financial freedom and the preservation of privacy in addition to transparency, governments and politicians like centralization, control and monitoring of everything, and Bitcoin does not give them that, so they hate Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is the beginning of the era of financial freedom, getting rid of the old system that is based on tyranny, confiscation of money, and imposing censorship on financial movements, and with the presence of Bitcoin, these autocrats will not be able to do anything.

While most of the bitcoin was purchased using centralized crypto exchanges from where the tracking of someone's wealth begins because they used to verify their KYC details on those centralized exchanges in the recent years. So early users took the advantage of being completely anonymous which is not possible nowadays with premium price than market prices.

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Yes, Bitcoin gives you all of this and more, financial freedom and the preservation of privacy in addition to transparency, governments and politicians like centralization, control and monitoring of everything, and Bitcoin does not give them that, so they hate Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is the beginning of the era of financial freedom, getting rid of the old system that is based on tyranny, confiscation of money, and imposing censorship on financial movements, and with the presence of Bitcoin, these autocrats will not be able to do anything.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on March 20, 2021, 12:57:27 PM

Bitcoin is actually protecting the real human right. The human they talk about in tv and new is just a game. The real human right is happening when you save your money and your are not going be worry about the total supply and printing money it's happening when you are free to send and receive any amount of money you want to anyone while none can track you and see your real identify. protecting the people privacy is a great of the human rights.

Television 2021 becomes propaganda to broadcast news that is incompatible with the understanding in society regarding the point of view of bitcoin. because society really wants as
part of bitcoin presence. But television turns everything upside down and sees bitcoin as a threat, including the mainstream media which is always mixed with political elements in order to maintain authority as a form of truth. there needs to be a strong association to fight this problem. Human rights can only be upheld if media guidelines are judged fairly. and provide real news.

The role of Television in spreading fake news in 2020 and 2021 is really alarming. We should all be very careful when seeing news on TV these days, it is better to double check everything we hear and don't believe things straight away. Unfortunately our society changed a lot in the last 10 years, a lot of people just take their news from Facebook and believe a lot of nonsense. In my opinion it is a good thing that Bitcoins are protecting Human Rights around the world.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on March 20, 2021, 12:57:27 PM

Bitcoin is actually protecting the real human right. The human they talk about in tv and new is just a game. The real human right is happening when you save your money and your are not going be worry about the total supply and printing money it's happening when you are free to send and receive any amount of money you want to anyone while none can track you and see your real identify. protecting the people privacy is a great of the human rights.

Television 2021 becomes propaganda to broadcast news that is incompatible with the understanding in society regarding the point of view of bitcoin. because society really wants as
part of bitcoin presence. But television turns everything upside down and sees bitcoin as a threat, including the mainstream media which is always mixed with political elements in order to maintain authority as a form of truth. there needs to be a strong association to fight this problem. Human rights can only be upheld if media guidelines are judged fairly. and provide real news.

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Bitcoin is protecting human rights around the world.

Yes this is a right point to the world. What people want? A freedom, security and a healthy, peaceful and enjoying life style this is the right we also want. And bitcoin gives us those all things. Bitcoin gives us freedom to work with anytime, anywhere or anyone there is no one whom you have to ask to work. It has security yes, your identity your money everything is anonymous and secured too. And by working with bitcoin we can live a life pain less. Just invest money take profit spend money to enjoy your life like how you want too. So i think this is a best point for bitcoin.

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Bitcoin is actually protecting the real human right. The human they talk about in tv and new is just a game. The real human right is happening when you save your money and your are not going be worry about the total supply and printing money it's happening when you are free to send and receive any amount of money you want to anyone while none can track you and see your real identify. protecting the people privacy is a great of the human rights.

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That wording does seem to be laying it on a little thick, heh. Bitcoin is a tool. It's how you use it that determines its effect. If you use it the right way, it does confer some benefits regarding privacy and security. However, it doesn't grant total immunity from a determined attacker, whether it be a criminal or a totalitarian state. If the authorities decide to lock you in a cell with no access to the outside world and keep you there for the rest of your life, your bitcoin holdings probably won't bring you a great deal of comfort.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 18, 2021, 12:12:38 PM

This is a big claim. Some bitcoiners disclosing that they hold bitcoins are being violated, physically attacked, tortured, and robbed of their bitcoins. That's already a violation of human rights on my books. Anyways, bitcoin is still helping people get involved in matters concerning international finances and investments. It helped improve the quality of life of some people who were lucky and smart enough to get on it at the right time. Take for example some people in Venezuela and similar countries experiencing hyperinflation. They find some utility in bitcoin that they can't find on their own currency or even USD since it's banned. There's a lot that bitcoin offers, though with every aspect that it helps to improve I'm sure there's always an opposition to it.

Reality is that it is not bitcoins fault that people are beaten for their coins, sure there are people who try to steal others bitcoins but that is not caused by bitcoin, there are people who are murdered for dollars every day as well and it is not even nearly same numbers, hell corporations sent soldiers to Iraq for Oil just so they could get richer and caused a whole nation to be disturbed and hundreds of thousands of people died so that some CEO's could get richer.

That is why we can't say that people beating others for their bitcoin is bitcoins fault, it is people's fault. What we are talking about here is the no censorship, no permission required, no unfair advantage to anyone, all equal world which bitcoin created, there is nothing like that in any other currency in the world and that is why it matters a lot, people liked gold because of that and now like bitcoin for the same reason.

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Quote from: Darker45 on March 17, 2021, 08:18:15 PM

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Reading your post mate made me also think of it which has also a fact. I do agreeing that some of us or maybe some part of me are claiming the same thing too, too cringe and too exaggerating. To be honest bitcoin is a great tool to generate income or profit but it doesn't protecting human rights around the world but only the privacy of a person who are engaging themselves in bitcoin platform. But on the other side too, we couldn't blame some of our colleagues that has this kind of opinion when it comes to bitcoin.

My point is simply that while Bitcoin may be used to advance human rights causes, Bitcoin per se is not really protecting human rights. Bitcoin isn't there to promote or uphold human rights. It may be about freedom insofar as the removal of third parties in financial transactions are concerned, but such freedom is not a human right. Freedom from banks and governments is no human right.

In terms of equality, for example, Bitcoin per se is not really protecting or promoting equality. Bitcoin is there made accessible to everyone unlike certain financial products and services which highly discriminate. But does Bitcoin protect or promote equality? I don't think so. Bitcoin, for example, cannot do anything to those who are beyond the reach of electricity, internet, modern phones, computers, and so on.

The same can be said when people say Bitcoin addresses poverty. It is not Bitcoin. Bitcoin was used, though.

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Maybe because we are free to manage our own finances when using Bitcoin, without the government being able to control the Bitcoin that we have.
This makes some people with their financial rights feel protected, it's different if we have money in the bank. The government can freeze our bank
accounts at any time for various reasons, and there are clear regulations on using fiat. If we think there is a point, our human rights can be protected
by using Bitcoin. Although it does not protect our human rights as a whole. But it is only limited to protecting the management of money that we have
in Bitcoin, and at least the many benefits that we can get by using Bitcoin.

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Quote from: Darker45 on March 17, 2021, 08:18:15 PM

It's such a huge claim. Sometimes I cringe on certain claims made by Bitcoin fans. I don't necessarily disagree with them, but sometimes they just seem to portray Bitcoin as something heaven-sent, capable of addressing the most fundamental issues of humanity.

Many a time have I heard of claims such as Bitcoin could highly boost a country's economy, Bitcoin could address poverty, Bitcoin could address unequal distribution of wealth, and so forth. There may be a certain amount of truth in each or even all of them but to generalize or label Bitcoin as such could actually be misleading or simply an exaggeration.

At the end of the day, Bitcoin is simply a tool, a generally neutral tool which could protect a certain human right such as the right to privacy, for example, as much as it could also be a tool used by a criminal to get away from being lawfully prosecuted and brought to justice.

Reading your post mate made me also think of it which has also a fact. I do agreeing that some of us or maybe some part of me are claiming the same thing too, too cringe and too exaggerating. To be honest bitcoin is a great tool to generate income or profit but it doesn't protecting human rights around the world but only the privacy of a person who are engaging themselves in bitcoin platform. But on the other side too, we couldn't blame some of our colleagues that has this kind of opinion when it comes to bitcoin.

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The case of the feminist group in Nigeria is very eroic. They are such brave women that to defend their cause they bought with thousands of dollars in bitcoin: anti-gas masks and protest equipment.

Definitely bitcoin is protecting human rights around the world. Bitcoin offers us the solutions that governments deny us because we work our whole lives to enjoy the benefits that our rulers should offer us. If we realize it, all cases have in common the oppression of governments or the consequences of the devaluation of the currency.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on March 19, 2021, 04:27:02 AM

It is funny that the reason why bitcoin was created is now seen as "also" in the eyes of many people. Bitcoin was created to have some power over your own finances, it was created because no censorship, no permission from someone else, no borders, basically it was global currency for the "people" and not money of the governments.

And eventually the price of one bitcoin grew so rapidly and so high that people started to think that maybe this is an asset to make money, they buy it and they sell it and they try to make a profit in fiat, they want to put 1k fiat in and get 2k fiat out, so that became the most popular thing bitcoin is used for and people forgot the main reason why it was created. Hopefully overtime the more people that own bitcoin, the more people will start realizing the power of bitcoin, it is not just the price of bitcoin that matters, what it stance for matters as well.

I get your point, but people are free to do it because that is another use of bitcoin apart from being a payment system. People's trust in bitcoin has increased its price until it reaches ATH. Perhap it is trader and investor who often forget about this innovation in decentralized asset. But that's not entirely true because trader, investor and people who adopt bitcoin as a payment system are always in the same circle. They are the proponent of the current existence of bitcoin.

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that's why bitcoin is at the top of the list and has been keeping our privacy for so long. we do not need to say who, and from where, we only need to have an electronic wallet then without intermediaries can send from one point to another without any country restrictions. As bitcoin's growth continues to advance, the majority of giant entrepreneurs and investors are aware that this will continue and provide opportunities for the world economy in the future. they also have a number of bitcoins that we cannot personally own. But despite their penchant for saving their finances, we need to worry, because sometimes the destroyers who hate bitcoin are not a few, sometimes we even clash with the government of our respective countries. This further shows that bitcoin is unstoppable, and will continue to contribute to improving the economy in the future.

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Agree, if we hold bitcoin we own a certain asset that is not controlled by the government.

No one could confiscate our bitcoin unlike our bank deposits and any assets that is under the care of a government agency.
It's true that it's a real freedom as for once, it's out of government's control and that makes it unique compared to other assets.

We can agree to regulate crypto but it should not loss our method of ownership and our privacy.
Government is centralized, we bitcoiners owns a decentralized asset.

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