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Quote from: seriouscoin on June 17, 2014, 10:20:39 PM

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Quote from: juju on June 17, 2014, 11:10:17 AM

I think that alot of people on this board will become citizens of St. Kitts, 200k is not too big a deal for the benefits.

The nice thing with the St Kitts program is you spend the $400k to buy real estate and you can sell it again in 5 years so you are essentially investing in real estate there which may appreciate, or at least won't lose all its value and then you can get it back later. So if you don't mind having your money tied up for 5 years, it is a good deal. IF you are looking for that kind of thing.

If you think about it, its just a ponzi scheme.

Btw, Roger Ver is a fraudster and scammer. The MtGox fiasco proved this. I've warned ppl on here many times b4 MtGox went south.

I can strongly say hes in it with Marks.

He may be, but the program itself is what I was speaking about. They've been doing it for 30+ years and the real estate on st kitts is comparably priced with other islands in the Caribbean, so you have some indication of the value there.

The bitcoin and passports thing is a separate issue. :-)

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 17, 2014, 11:23:09 AM

Quote from: juju on June 17, 2014, 11:10:17 AM

I think that alot of people on this board will become citizens of St. Kitts, 200k is not too big a deal for the benefits.

Agreed. And I have some good news for you. A few days ago, the Caribbean nation of Antigua and Barbuda has also started a cash-for-citizenship offer (Fees is around $250,000). Antigua is very near to St Kitts, and the Antiguan passport will enable you with visa-free travel to more than 130 countries, including most of the EU. Grin

Competition is great, perhaps in the future we will see lower fees for a new life in paradise?

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Quote from: cr1776 on June 17, 2014, 07:19:28 PM

Quote from: juju on June 17, 2014, 11:10:17 AM

I think that alot of people on this board will become citizens of St. Kitts, 200k is not too big a deal for the benefits.

The nice thing with the St Kitts program is you spend the $400k to buy real estate and you can sell it again in 5 years so you are essentially investing in real estate there which may appreciate, or at least won't lose all its value and then you can get it back later. So if you don't mind having your money tied up for 5 years, it is a good deal. IF you are looking for that kind of thing.

If you think about it, its just a ponzi scheme.

Btw, Roger Ver is a fraudster and scammer. The MtGox fiasco proved this. I've warned ppl on here many times b4 MtGox went south.

I can strongly say hes in it with Marks.

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Quote from: juju on June 17, 2014, 11:10:17 AM

I think that alot of people on this board will become citizens of St. Kitts, 200k is not too big a deal for the benefits.

The nice thing with the St Kitts program is you spend the $400k to buy real estate and you can sell it again in 5 years so you are essentially investing in real estate there which may appreciate, or at least won't lose all its value and then you can get it back later. So if you don't mind having your money tied up for 5 years, it is a good deal. IF you are looking for that kind of thing.

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Quote from: juju on June 17, 2014, 11:10:17 AM

I think that alot of people on this board will become citizens of St. Kitts, 200k is not too big a deal for the benefits.

Agreed. And I have some good news for you. A few days ago, the Caribbean nation of Antigua and Barbuda has also started a cash-for-citizenship offer (Fees is around $250,000). Antigua is very near to St Kitts, and the Antiguan passport will enable you with visa-free travel to more than 130 countries, including most of the EU. Grin

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I think that alot of people on this board will become citizens of St. Kitts, 200k is not too big a deal for the benefits.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 17, 2014, 10:10:54 AM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on June 17, 2014, 10:02:34 AM

I wish I had half a million laying around, I would love to live there.

Trust me, there are more affordable options around if you are really interested in this. Check this:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101198433

Dominican citizenship is available for around $100,000 and the Latvian Passport is available for just $96,000. The Cambodian passport is even cheaper, at $70,000.

Nice, I still don't have anywhere near that, but maybe one day I could do it. Until then I guess I'll just have to deal with it!

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on June 17, 2014, 10:02:34 AM

I wish I had half a million laying around, I would love to live there.

Trust me, there are more affordable options around if you are really interested in this. Check this:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101198433

Dominican citizenship is available for around $100,000 and the Latvian Passport is available for just $96,000. The Cambodian passport is even cheaper, at $70,000.

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I wish I had half a million laying around, I would love to live there.

An island would be much better than central Texas I suppose forgetting out the tax stuff for a second.

The USA has gone downhill slowly in terms of personal freedoms and privacy. The "Land of the free" bravado has long sense died. Sad

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Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 16, 2014, 06:19:04 PM

This is something that I don't think the Bitcoin community should get involved in.
This is very similar to tax evasion.
When people start using bitcoin for evading taxes at that level governments will put more effort into trying to regulate and hurt it

There is nothing illegal about it. Renouncing the citizenship of one country, and taking another passport is perfectly legal, and it has been going on for many decades now. Roger Ver is not the first person to do that. Grin

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Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 16, 2014, 06:19:04 PM

Quote from: BittBurger on June 16, 2014, 02:06:54 PM

Everyone is using this article as an example to prove that only crooks are involved in Bitcoin.

This is something that I don't think the Bitcoin community should get involved in.

This is very similar to tax evasion.

When people start using bitcoin for evading taxes at that level governments will put more effort into trying to regulate and hurt it

No, no, this is great for main stream adoption! I've been trying to get my friends into Bitcoin for years. They have repeatedly told me I'm nuts for being involved in such a high risk investment. This is just what I need to tell them to ensure that they never speak to me again.

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Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 16, 2014, 06:19:04 PM

Quote from: BittBurger on June 16, 2014, 02:06:54 PM

Everyone is using this article as an example to prove that only crooks are involved in Bitcoin.

This is something that I don't think the Bitcoin community should get involved in.

This is very similar to tax evasion.

When people start using bitcoin for evading taxes at that level governments will put more effort into trying to regulate and hurt it

i think it's going to happen either way. i know everyone says fiat provides people with the same advantages as btc (to evade taxes and do otherwise seedy things), but bitcoin provides a unique quality to do these things.

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Quote from: BittBurger on June 16, 2014, 02:06:54 PM

Everyone is using this article as an example to prove that only crooks are involved in Bitcoin.

This is something that I don't think the Bitcoin community should get involved in.

This is very similar to tax evasion.

When people start using bitcoin for evading taxes at that level governments will put more effort into trying to regulate and hurt it

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Quote from: beetcoin on June 16, 2014, 06:10:33 PM

Quote from: Bit_Happy on June 16, 2014, 06:04:13 PM

I call the Burning Man festival a type of paradise because large numbers of people gather in a free environment and there is rarely violence or unwanted aggression between people.

Quote from: beetcoin on June 16, 2014, 05:52:24 PM

...after partying for a while, it begins to feel empty for me....

Partying is optional, it is a place where you don't need 'help' to feel good.

i've met a few people who have been, but i have not been to one myself. maybe someday. it's too late to get some tickets now though huh? i hear it sells out really fast.

True, tickets are very hard to get and it sells out really fast. You can find some on eBay, but usually not for the original prices.

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Quote from: QuestionAuthority on June 16, 2014, 06:13:55 PM

Roger Ver another founding member of the Bitcoin Foundation along with Charlie Shrem and Mark Karpeles. So are all six founders of TBF criminals or just half of them?

https://github.com/pmlaw/The-Bitcoin-Foundation-Legal-Repo/blob/master/Bylaws/Bylaws_of_The_Bitcoin_Foundation.md

ha, i don't know much about roger, but he's a self-proclaimed "angel investor." but it's kind of hard to keep a good reputation when your name is attached to mark karpeles and the other members of the foundation.

at the same time, it's probably not fair to make him guilty by association.

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Roger Ver another founding member of the Bitcoin Foundation along with Charlie Shrem and Mark Karpeles. So are all six founders of TBF criminals or just half of them?

https://github.com/pmlaw/The-Bitcoin-Foundation-Legal-Repo/blob/master/Bylaws/Bylaws_of_The_Bitcoin_Foundation.md

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Quote from: Bit_Happy on June 16, 2014, 06:04:13 PM

I call the Burning Man festival a type of paradise because large numbers of people gather in a free environment and there is rarely violence or unwanted aggression between people.

Quote from: beetcoin on June 16, 2014, 05:52:24 PM

...after partying for a while, it begins to feel empty for me....

Partying is optional, it is a place where you don't need 'help' to feel good.

i've met a few people who have been, but i have not been to one myself. maybe someday. it's too late to get some tickets now though huh? i hear it sells out really fast.

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I call the Burning Man festival a type of paradise because large numbers of people gather in a free environment and there is rarely violence or unwanted aggression between people.

Quote from: beetcoin on June 16, 2014, 05:52:24 PM

...after partying for a while, it begins to feel empty for me....

Partying is optional, it is a place where you don't need 'help' to feel good.

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Quote from: Bit_Happy on June 16, 2014, 05:48:07 PM

Quote from: beetcoin on June 16, 2014, 05:36:36 PM

that's cool and all, but he's selling it as a tropical paradise? as far as i know, there is no such thing as a paradise on earth.. wherever you go, you'll find humans doing shitty things to each other and misery that comes along with it.

Is there a paradise on earth?
One week per year in the hot desert you will find a type of paradise, started years ago by a Libertarian. At the "Burning Man" festival you will not find hardly any "humans doing shitty things to each other".

i don't think there is a paradise on earth, because in the realm of earth.. shitty things can happen to you, and great things can as well. for me, living in a start of partying is not heaven. after partying for a while, it begins to feel empty for me.

i was once in pattaya (thailand), where horny dudes had shirts that said "forget heaven, i'm going to pattaya when i die). you'd have to ignore the starving lady with 2 kids living on the street corner, begging for money.. or you'd have to ignore the 70 year old dudes who are trying to hang onto their youth by having a 20 year old in his arms.

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