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Topic: ‘Bitcoin Jesus’ Calls Rich to Tax-Free Tropical Paradise | #bitcoin #jesus - page 3. (Read 3664 times)

legendary
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that's cool and all, but he's selling it as a tropical paradise? as far as i know, there is no such thing as a paradise on earth.. wherever you go, you'll find humans doing shitty things to each other and misery that comes along with it.

Is there a paradise on earth?
One week per year in the hot desert you will find a type of paradise, started years ago by a Libertarian. At the "Burning Man" festival you will not find hardly any "humans doing shitty things to each other".

sr. member
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that's cool and all, but he's selling it as a tropical paradise? as far as i know, there is no such thing as a paradise on earth.. wherever you go, you'll find humans doing shitty things to each other and misery that comes along with it.
hero member
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So let me get this straight - the idea is you extract wealth (by luck or crook) from your home nation - the home nation then either requires that you pay something back via local taxation or places limits on the amounts of local currency (ie.wealth) that you can convert and move out of your home nation - you then, with fox like cunning, convert your accumulated wealth/local currency into Bitcoin - you then buy into St. Kitts with a BTC equivalent minimum investment of $250k. Is this correct ?

     What a wanker. Bitcoin Jesus ? Don't make me laugh. Jesus said the meek shall inherit the Earth - not that selfish twats that don't wish to give something back shall abuse a revolutionary and potentially benevolent technology to feather their own nests.



So let me get this straight:
You do not see any Gov't in the world that steals too much of its' own peoples money?

I don't think the US "steals" enough to be honest given its $1.3 trillion debt to the Chinese   Wink.

The point is that the nouveau riche Chinese who are contemplating the Bitcoin Jesus's way forward should know that they are burning their bridges - no way home for them, while the BJ happily skims off the top of their converted Renminbi stash. But not so for the US tax exile - shit, he'll probably still be, quite legally, creaming it off the fat of the land from his US investment portfolio and from the people of the US.
    This isn't what Satoshi's white paper was about for me - but I guess we can't change human nature.

Still, there isn't any point in encouraging, advocating and facilitating our base instincts is there ?
legendary
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So let me get this straight - the idea is you extract wealth (by luck or crook) from your home nation - the home nation then either requires that you pay something back via local taxation or places limits on the amounts of local currency (ie.wealth) that you can convert and move out of your home nation - you then, with fox like cunning, convert your accumulated wealth/local currency into Bitcoin - you then buy into St. Kitts with a BTC equivalent minimum investment of $250k. Is this correct ?

     What a wanker. Bitcoin Jesus ? Don't make me laugh. Jesus said the meek shall inherit the Earth - not that selfish twats that don't wish to give something back shall abuse a revolutionary and potentially benevolent technology to feather their own nests.



So let me get this straight:
You do not see any Gov't in the world that steals too much of its' own peoples money?
hero member
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So let me get this straight - the idea is you extract wealth (by luck or crook) from your home nation - the home nation then either requires that you pay something back via local taxation or places limits on the amounts of local currency (ie.wealth) that you can convert and move out of your home nation (or both) - you then, with fox like cunning, convert your accumulated wealth/local currency into Bitcoin - you then buy into St. Kitts with a BTC equivalent minimum investment of $250k. Is this correct ?

     What a wanker. Bitcoin Jesus ? Don't make me laugh. Jesus said the meek shall inherit the Earth - not that selfish twats that don't wish to give something back shall abuse a revolutionary and potentially benevolent technology to feather their own nests.

hero member
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Hyperfocusing on his strange need to sell explosives (little as they may have been) on Ebay.   For scaring birds away or not.
Although the "Pest Control Report 2000" were nominally intended to scare birds, from the descriptions I have found in the net they were rather hefty "firecrackers" (with 10-20x the current maximum allowed amount of explosive) that probably would do quite a bit of damage if exploded in someone's hands.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv3Wvxi6pgU  Presumably it was not only farmers who were interested in it, e.g.: http://www.undergroundozarks.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1917



Interesting.  Yeah.  Bad judgment to say the least.  But the simple fact is that many folks in this scene are simply "anti authority".  So they will do inflammatory things that land them in jail, and then claim to be victims.  Ver is probably one of the best voices in the BTC community right now though.  He's second only to Andreas in ability to articulate Bitcoin in public speeches (just my opinion based on podcasts / panels I've listened to).  I guess I just shake my head confusingly upon hearing that he was selling explosives on eBay, and hope for better conduct in the future.  A certain amount of anti-government / anti-establishmentarianism is to be expected in the Bitcoin world.  Each person can make his own decisions for himself.  

-B-
legendary
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well keep following that guy and you will lose everything...well if you didn't already (you know the I give my word that everything is cool with gox video)

Good reminder, I somehow missed that in the past. You are saying Roger Ver publicly claimed everything was fine at Gox?

He recorded a video at MTgox offices visit saying after looking to documents presented to him by Mark that everything is OK and he followed asking everyone to calm down and summed up gox issues to them only having some complications with their bank... after gox filled for bankruptcy protection he deleted that video and posted another one

once he tweeted about the biggest threat to Bitcoin and I replied that I think that people like him are the biggest threat to Bitcoin.

Much of that does sound familiar, but I'd forgotten that it was Roger doing the "inspection".
Sounds to me like the ‘Bitcoin Jesus’ asks people to really practice their faith.  ....lol?
legendary
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things you own end up owning you
well keep following that guy and you will lose everything...well if you didn't already (you know the I give my word that everything is cool with gox video)

Good reminder, I somehow missed that in the past. You are saying Roger Ver publicly claimed everything was fine at Gox?

He recorded a video at MTgox offices visit saying after looking to documents presented to him by Mark that everything is OK and he followed asking everyone to calm down and summed up gox issues to them only having some complications with their bank... after gox filled for bankruptcy protection he deleted that video and posted another one

once he tweeted about the biggest threat to Bitcoin and I replied that I think that people like him are the biggest threat to Bitcoin.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1040
A Great Time to Start Something!
well keep following that guy and you will lose everything...well if you didn't already (you know the I give my word that everything is cool with gox video)

Good reminder, I somehow missed that in the past. You are saying Roger Ver publicly claimed everything was fine at Gox?
hero member
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Hyperfocusing on his strange need to sell explosives (little as they may have been) on Ebay.   For scaring birds away or not.
Although the "Pest Control Report 2000" were nominally intended to scare birds, from the descriptions I have found in the net they were rather hefty "firecrackers" (with 10-20x the current maximum allowed amount of explosive) that probably would do quite a bit of damage if exploded in someone's hands.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv3Wvxi6pgU  Presumably it was not only farmers who were interested in it, e.g.: http://www.undergroundozarks.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1917

legendary
Activity: 1148
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things you own end up owning you
well keep following that guy and you will lose everything...well if you didn't already (you know the I give my word that everything is cool with gox video)
hero member
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I guess I'm the only guy who heads to the comments section after reading articles  Grin

Everyone is using this article as an example to prove that only crooks are involved in Bitcoin.  

Hyperfocusing on his strange need to sell explosives (little as they may have been) on Ebay.   For scaring birds away or not.  Doesn't seem to sway people's "duh" factor as far as it being a really stupid idea.  In that regard I agree with them.   But its a bummer they're using this article to prove that Bitcoins "Jesus" is just another Ex Con.  

Totally cracked up with the "You wont be able to serve in the armed forces" ..... "Darn" paragraph.  LOL!

-B-
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Nice read, this guy sounds awesome. What a pioneer
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
Is anyone familiar with the ease of setting up a corporation in St Kitts?
legendary
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"The ever-expanding universe of what you can buy with bitcoins includes a hotel stay in Rome, a kimono in Tokyo, and cable TV in the U.S. Ver, a pioneer investor in bitcoin startups, now says he can add citizenship to the list".

What quality writing.
legendary
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Maybe Snowden will finally be able to travel. Perhaps we should set up a kickstarter to raise the $250k?
He just needs to find way to get out of that building w/o getting arrested. Another citizenship cant save him as long as he's on land of country that wants to arrest him.
legendary
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Damn, i need to get more BTC...i want this!
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Maybe Snowden will finally be able to travel. Perhaps we should set up a kickstarter to raise the $250k?
legendary
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It will be I while before I can afford this, but St. Kitts looks like something close to a true Libertarian paradise.
bitcointalk.org forum probably has at least a couple active members already living there.
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