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newbie
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June 25, 2018, 09:23:26 AM
Yeah, some big investors and bitcoin holder trying to spread rumors about bitcoin so the weak hands sell their bitcoins cheap. And then they buy from these weak hands. And when those big investors fill their bags bitcoin fill fly again.
full member
Activity: 171
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June 25, 2018, 09:13:44 AM
Market manipulation takes place with every commodity, not just BTC. There are activities of this kind. What is so-called spoofing, a process where traders artificially create demand that would otherwise not exist. It is an infringement that consists of entering into transactions with the intent to omit such a trade at the last moment.
jr. member
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June 25, 2018, 08:58:56 AM
Who knows. Maybe it's really manipulative, maybe not. Nobody will tell you for sure. But there is such a feeling, that's for sure.
sr. member
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June 25, 2018, 08:32:04 AM
yes you are right where bitcoin exchanges are so full of price manipulation it is controlled by whales who have very much trading capital so bitcoin and some other coin prices have a very horrible movement.
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June 25, 2018, 08:28:22 AM
I know that there are some instances that the market is manipulated. Some huge whales are making it look like the market is alive or crashing or it's just really the true state of the market. I do believe though that banks have something to do when there is a sudden crash where sometimes we lost B30 very quick.

That's a very bad thing for everyone by doing it that way. we should be more careful. Very harmful.
full member
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June 25, 2018, 08:13:37 AM
I know that there are some instances that the market is manipulated. Some huge whales are making it look like the market is alive or crashing or it's just really the true state of the market. I do believe though that banks have something to do when there is a sudden crash where sometimes we lost B30 very quick.
sr. member
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June 25, 2018, 07:44:38 AM
If you've been around the cryptosphere, you've probably heard both camps on whether BTC is manipulated. Many say it's the "weak hands", others blame large institutions, while other's say it's all that MT GOX guy doing another dump? What do you think? Is it manipulated? Please include your reasoning on the matter. 

I don't think it is generally manipulated. However, the fact is that the majority of Bitcoin shares are owned by a few people only. These are the whales. So whatever decision these whales do, the market will definitely get affected. This is the effect of the limited circulation of the coin. However, the road that Bitcoin is treading is going to a point in which the total supply of Bitcoin is going to be widely owned by a larger population of the world. At this point, there will be no manipulation anymore.
newbie
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June 25, 2018, 07:36:51 AM
Of course it is "Cant beat them join them" ok so do you think the Bankers lets just say the big guns are going to sit back and watch as Blockchain technology that they know works well takes over or that people are walking away from traditional banks and investing in cryptocurrency no they are not so they will invest large amounts of fiat to manipulate pump and dump when they choose also Countries as a whole like China who own a large % of the worlds BTC can also do the same. Whales will also do the same so the answer is yes.
jr. member
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June 25, 2018, 07:22:25 AM
Yes, I believe that these whale investors were the ones manipulating the btc price value in the crypto market. The are dictating the crypto market where they will make a scenario that can make an impact to bitcoin resulting to a bearish market where people tend to panic and sell btc at lower price.  With this, whales also will then buy as many btc during bear market and hold again until such time it will recover.
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June 25, 2018, 06:26:58 AM
Manipulation of BTC price is being done by big investors . They are  trying to trap small investors but compelling them to do panic sell as BTC price are continuously fallinf since a long time.

sometimes they do this if the price is not moving to anywhere but if the market still active, I am not sure that they can move the price because there will be many people which want to buy and sell bitcoin. small investors cannot do anything and they only can follow the price goes and if they think that they can take the profit, I am sure that they will get the profit while they can.
newbie
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June 24, 2018, 02:53:04 AM
controls do exist, they are not as serious and controlling as a few people misrepresent them to resemble and furthermore they are not as little and non existent as some others get a kick out of the chance to over right! it is some place in the center.

the bitcoin advertise is still really little and there are numerous with a ton of cash nearby who are getting more extravagant each time bitcoin swings here and there. they + the media have been driving the market the way they like it to for quite a while. it's anything but a full control like what you see in altcoins pump and dumps however it is sufficient to influence cost to endure big cheeses or have enormous ascents.
newbie
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June 24, 2018, 02:51:21 AM
Manipulation of BTC price is being done by big investors . They are  trying to trap small investors but compelling them to do panic sell as BTC price are continuously fallinf since a long time.
jr. member
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June 24, 2018, 02:41:26 AM
I think to a certain extent Bitcoin is manipulated, but what else do you expect with this low volume? May be One day, we will have surely bigger volume and will not be so easy to be manipulated like now, but until that we can just see the whales. Don't forget that also many big institution enter/will enter this market, also Nasdaq will launch their exchanger next month, so more volume is coming.
Mt.Gox fact it is bad, and they don't care about the market price, they just want some money back selling this large quantity of btc left.
It aint Mt Gox Trustee...havent you heard the news?  http://bitcoinist.com/mt-gox-bitcoin-whale-trustee-wont-sell-btc/

"The key takeaway is that the Mt. Gox Trustee, Nobuaki Kobayashi, won’t sell any more bitcoin — at least for the foreseeable future until the creditors are reimbursed in bitcoin sometime early to mid-2019, according to Tokyo-based Bloomberg reporter Yuji Nakamura.‏"
full member
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June 24, 2018, 02:33:37 AM
If you've been around the cryptosphere, you've probably heard both camps on whether BTC is manipulated. Many say it's the "weak hands", others blame large institutions, while other's say it's all that MT GOX guy doing another dump? What do you think? Is it manipulated? Please include your reasoning on the matter. 
Theoretically, it is possible to manipulate the crypto-currency market. This means that certain individuals and groups will always be able to agree on joint actions with the aim of extracting profits for themselves in order to influence the situation on the market. We have more than once seen the concerted actions associated with raising, or lowering the rate of bitcoin. Therefore, the current situation may well be the result of this manipulation.
newbie
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June 24, 2018, 02:04:38 AM
Spoofing and wash trading, both of which involve creating false orders to create the impression of genuine market activity. Tethers may have been used to manipulate the price of bitcoin.
newbie
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June 22, 2018, 03:51:02 AM
I think to a certain extent Bitcoin is manipulated, but what else do you expect with this low volume? May be One day, we will have surely bigger volume and will not be so easy to be manipulated like now, but until that we can just see the whales. Don't forget that also many big institution enter/will enter this market, also Nasdaq will launch their exchanger next month, so more volume is coming.
Mt.Gox fact it is bad, and they don't care about the market price, they just want some money back selling this large quantity of btc left.
newbie
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June 21, 2018, 08:48:50 AM
In real circumstances trading is not pure zero sum game. Exchanges fees, mining, hacking attacks, hardforks and fraud make this market unpredictable by game theory models.
sr. member
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June 20, 2018, 07:43:17 PM
#99
If you've been around the cryptosphere, you've probably heard both camps on whether BTC is manipulated. Many say it's the "weak hands", others blame large institutions, while other's say it's all that MT GOX guy doing another dump? What do you think? Is it manipulated? Please include your reasoning on the matter. 

It is manipulated by huge whales. This is the reason it goes down without any reason at all and withoutany news that makes some people panics sell.

Sometimes we can see that a news in other countries make the prices really goes down. When someone banned crypto in their country due to the potential threat or when the government make a sudden rule.

But what if the whales does not exist and  it is just the owner who really hold a lot and just manipulating a lot?
newbie
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June 20, 2018, 07:14:01 PM
#98
yes only big investor who have huge amount of btc  that types of or group of people partially can manipulate the market . but not all coin .
newbie
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June 20, 2018, 04:13:48 PM
#97
I'm damn near certain that it is happening as I personally have manipulated shitcoins in the past. Frankly the only reason that I did so with shitcoins is because those were simply the ones I could afford to do so with. And If I was willing and able to do so with them (I am not rich btw) then I'm certain that it is only a matter of means for someone to do so with the larger coins even BTC. Likely it is by no means all of those with the means but enough to make the difference.

With that said I'm not one to think that the recent price action can be completely attributed to these actors but to some extent it must be subject to their influence simply because it can be.

But thats like, my opinion man.
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